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Top three best consumer and prosumer reel to reels in your vision, designwise

Bigcatlover said:
I've got the ATR-60-8 right here :

DBX on a pro/semi pro deck? actually, it depends on the engineers. For a deck that needs it, a well-set dbx may sound quite impressing from what I've heard, but personally, I can't see dbx on a pro deck...
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DBX in a studio was all about reducing tape hiss, getting a better signal to noise ratio. In the studio where I worked, if a client came in and couldn't afford the cost of 2 inch tape, 15ips was a better choice than 30ips and 24 channels of DBX noise reduction was used. With 24 channels being fed into 24 faders during mixdown, there's a lot of tape hiss without noise reduction, especially since not all those tape channels are maxed out at 0VU 100% of the time. Same applied for the two channel mixdown... DBX was used the majority of the time at 15ips though most were done at 30ips.

Nice ATR-60-8. :)
 
I have the ATR-60/2/HS. 1/2" - 2-track, 15/30 ips. The tapes this makes at 15 ips are amazing. I have the Tascam 2-CH DBX unit to match it as well.

NOW, if I could only find a remote for this!
 
mcdan said:
I too lust for a Logic 7! I do have a Super 7. All the rubber has turned to mush!
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The Logic 7 shines to me like Anne Stoke's Winter Fantasy.

It feels like the colossus of the reel to reels is looking at me. So much detail, the deeper you go, the more you find.


The visual design is genius :)

It makes me literally not give a damn about the rubber, caps and other easy to fix things...


I still didn't get one of them but I will. It's my dream :)
 
FONSguy,

One of the best machines ever in it's class, the Crown 800 series. One of the best broadcast/semi-pro/high end audiophile machines made. Easily the best machine then for the money. Still more than good today. Built Missionary Tough in the best Clarence Moore tradition. And sounds great. Reliable and easily maintainable.
 
KentTeffeteller said:
FONSguy,

One of the best machines ever in it's class, the Crown 800 series. One of the best broadcast/semi-pro/high end audiophile machines made. Easily the best machine then for the money. Still more than good today. Built Missionary Tough in the best Clarence Moore tradition. And sounds great. Reliable and easily maintainable.
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:thmbsp: +1 A joy to listen to and to watch!
 
How does the Sansui SD7000 compare to machines of it's day? I had one back in the early '70's. I saw one on the market recently.
 
It's very good if low hours and in fine working order, parts harder to find. Here is some of my list of recommended machines:

Teac A series (until recently, easy to find parts new. Still common and widely available, and parts donor machines easy to find)
Otari MX 5050 B II and III (the last new open reel machine built, Aheadtek supports them, many parts machines still available)
ReVox B 77 and PR 99 Mk II and III
Crown 800 series

Machines to be cautious with:

Late model Sonys
Akai anything
Any X series Teac or Tascam variant
DoKorder anything
Pioneer RT 901/RT 909
ReVox A 77 (parts findable, but expensive, many need lots of recapping to run right)
ReVox A 700 (US parts supply dried up)
"Looks Decks" highly styled, last of the line machines, many highly styled, hard to get parts for, many weaknesses mechanically or electronically, most priced many times more than their usefulness as working machines
 
KentTeffeteller said:
It's very good if low hours and in fine working order, parts harder to find. Here is some of my list of recommended machines:

Teac A series (until recently, easy to find parts new. Still common and widely available, and parts donor machines easy to find)
Otari MX 5050 B II and III (the last new open reel machine built, Aheadtek supports them, many parts machines still available)
ReVox B 77 and PR 99 Mk II and III
Crown 800 series

Machines to be cautious with:

Late model Sonys
Akai anything
Any X series Teac or Tascam variant
DoKorder anything
Pioneer RT 901/RT 909
ReVox A 77 (parts findable, but expensive, many need lots of recapping to run right)
ReVox A 700 (US parts supply dried up)
"Looks Decks" highly styled, last of the line machines, many highly styled, hard to get parts for, many weaknesses mechanically or electronically, most priced many times more than their usefulness as working machines
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I read up on the revox A77 and quite impressed. E-bay prices are surprisingly low or at least comparable. Thanks zombie for the heads up.
 
"Designwise" was the OP's qualifier. In this regard, I say the Technics RS1500/1700/1800 series. The isolated loop and swappable head unit designs were revolutionary. That, and they are sexy as hell (can you tell I own one? :D).
 
http://www.euphonia-audioforum.se/forums/index.php?showtopic=11936&p=201644
The measurement of A77 isn't included, got it somewhere but it says it got close to the performance of A77 (a 15 years older design) but the "noise trumpet" (mechanical noise), the diagram on the lower right was better than for A77. It doesn't look very easily serviceable from the nudies, either. So, if this counts into "designwise" I think A77 is still on top. If looks also counts into "design" then the A77 in its simplicity is also better. :D
 
Fun thread...Thanks!
Mine would be Revox B77, Otari MX 5050 mk ii, Pioneer 707. I really love the looks of the Revox but I expect the Otari may be a bit superior. I like the looks of the Tandberg TD 20 A but my example is a basket case and at this rate may never be repaired.
 
Bigcatlover said:
The rival of Akai's GX-747dbx isn't it :)


I have never found a thing attractive in x-2000r's look :( I know it sounds good though, but...

And I will never, ever understand why Teac chose to build the X-1000R and X-20R like they did, and even the 2000r... Where is the master design of the A7300? They could've done much much more to resurrect that powerful look, instead of messing them... And the Tascam 32 is even more weird, it looks like they combined them, but the 52 is another story. That looks more acceptable.

I don't mean to insult anyone but that's just my personal opinion. I totally respect Teac for what they did with the older recorders, but the newer ones simply miss that "teac" feel when it comes to the visual design (at least for me) . Look at Akai for example... Look at the Terecorder! Since the Terecorder, going through the history, to the gx-747dbx, Akai managed to stay strong in esthetics, and rarely missed anything.
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I couldn't disagree with you more, those TEAC black XR's look fantastic!
 
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