I sold all of my tuners and now I want one again….
Tuners?
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Beobloke
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No, you responded to my post where I mentioned two tuners, but didn't say which of those two your comment referred to! I was just curious...
doug s.
Super Member
well, you said the b&o was better than anything you've heard, so i assumed you included the yamaha in that comment. i had a tx1000 and t2; both were much better than the b&o. never heard the one you have but it seems nowhere near as good as yamaha's better tuners. the ones i had easily outperformed the b&o.
Beobloke
Super Member
Interesting.
Yet I know three people who owned Yamaha CT-7000 tuners but sold them in favour of Beomaster 5000s!
doug s.
Super Member
so, i'd think it's much more likely that 3 ct7000 tuners are in need of servicing than the beomaster 500 outperforms them...
Hoewieloewie
Active Member
The Marantz ST-17 has left again, same with the Philips FT930.
Actual in collection:
Marantz ST-50 & ST6003
Superscope T-208, T-210, T-220 & T-500
Erres SX6194
Philips RH651
Muvid IR825 FM / DAB+ / Internetradio
Albrecht DR52BA Digitalradio Adapter FM / DAB+ / BlueToothreceiver
One came in: Philips AH103. It's not playing well but I'm working on that.
i only quote this first post because i see you are still active.
i'm curious if this is/was the unit you referred to. i've seen the matching amp released under 5 or 6 names depending on country but yours was not on the list....
Bill Spula
New Member
Sony ST 5000W
Sony ST 5000FW
Sony ST 5150
Sony ST S333ESXII (2)
Sony ST SA5ES
Sony ST 5000FW
Sony ST 5150
Sony ST S333ESXII (2)
Sony ST SA5ES
tubelectron
Super Member
I have 3 tuners :
SONY STR-2950F - because it's a four band FM/SW/MW/LW...
PIONEER TX-8500II - because it's rather a nice upmarket model...
SANSUI TU-33DXL - because it's a slimline digital one...
All are mint condition, setuped, perfectly working... But all are stored in cartons for years...
T
SONY STR-2950F - because it's a four band FM/SW/MW/LW...
PIONEER TX-8500II - because it's rather a nice upmarket model...
SANSUI TU-33DXL - because it's a slimline digital one...
All are mint condition, setuped, perfectly working... But all are stored in cartons for years...
T
radioactive
tube gear fanatic
I'll take the 2950 off your hands .I love tuners that have shortwave.I have 3 tuners :
SONY STR-2950F - because it's a four band FM/SW/MW/LW...
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PIONEER TX-8500II - because it's rather a nice upmarket model...
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SANSUI TU-33DXL - because it's a slimline digital one...
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All are mint condition, setuped, perfectly working... But all are stored in cartons for years...
T
tubelectron
Super Member
radioactive
tube gear fanatic
Just a quick note which I've told many times here .When I started out collecting audio gear I worked backwards if I found a tuner I liked I would then search out the matching amp and preamp ac I liked matching gear.I also tended to sell the amps and preamps but still held onto the tunersI guess why, @radioactive :
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It's my love of all things radio and audio gear.I first got into shortwave radio when I was younger which then evolved into my obsession with audio gear.
dtvmcdonald
New Member
Stereo tuners (not counting ones in receivers)
1 an HD Radio one, bought to see just how awful it is .... very.
2 a Sony ST-5150 which was for years my normal use one
3 a recapped Dynaco FM-3 tubized one
4 an Airspy/SDR# one on my computer
#s 3 and 4 are the ONLY stereo tuners that are satisfactory today. I only listen ... a lot ...
to one station, WILL-FM 90.9, for classical music.
It has HD radio (ultra awful), the 57 hHz "data" thingie, and a 67 kHZ subcarrier for
"newsreader for the blind". These generate birdies on lesser tuners, including some
even higher end ones I tried. Its interesting that the Dynaco is so good.
The Dynaco is the ONLY tuner I have tried that by itself can take the overload from
a 25 kW station a mile away. WILL is 100 kW but 23 miles away. The Airspy
needs a two-coil helical resonator preselector.
Both of those are fully satisfactory for full uncompressed classical music,
which WILL sometimes transmits. They actually
transmit a dynamic range of 60 dBA on some special concerts, especially
locally produced ones.
I also own some older mono ones, none high end. None can withstand
the nearby flamethrower without the preselector, but some do withstand
IBOC and the extra subcarriers.
My antenna is a simple dipole on my partio at 7 feet off the ground,
looking out over a lake. There is zero multipath.
1 an HD Radio one, bought to see just how awful it is .... very.
2 a Sony ST-5150 which was for years my normal use one
3 a recapped Dynaco FM-3 tubized one
4 an Airspy/SDR# one on my computer
#s 3 and 4 are the ONLY stereo tuners that are satisfactory today. I only listen ... a lot ...
to one station, WILL-FM 90.9, for classical music.
It has HD radio (ultra awful), the 57 hHz "data" thingie, and a 67 kHZ subcarrier for
"newsreader for the blind". These generate birdies on lesser tuners, including some
even higher end ones I tried. Its interesting that the Dynaco is so good.
The Dynaco is the ONLY tuner I have tried that by itself can take the overload from
a 25 kW station a mile away. WILL is 100 kW but 23 miles away. The Airspy
needs a two-coil helical resonator preselector.
Both of those are fully satisfactory for full uncompressed classical music,
which WILL sometimes transmits. They actually
transmit a dynamic range of 60 dBA on some special concerts, especially
locally produced ones.
I also own some older mono ones, none high end. None can withstand
the nearby flamethrower without the preselector, but some do withstand
IBOC and the extra subcarriers.
My antenna is a simple dipole on my partio at 7 feet off the ground,
looking out over a lake. There is zero multipath.
tubelectron
Super Member
If Receivers are allowed, then I'll just mention only one : my 1957 Blaupunkt Milano...
T
I picked up three Scott LT-111 tube tuners to use for experimentation and self-education. It is the kit version of the 370, the last of the Scott tube tuners. It was designed to be cost-competitive, not state-of-the-art. I am using it on a strong signal. I had a Foster-Blair-modified Scott 370 years ago.
I have one LT-111 in the system now. It is stock, except that I have removed the "death capacitors." I suspect has never had a professional alignment.
It is IBOC-resistant, no noise from HD radio. The stereo separation is quite respectable. It gives more of a rear-of-the-hall, laid-back perspective than the 310E, which puts you closer and emphasizes transient sounds more.
I haven't had a chance to listen to it for long stretches.
It is technically interesting in that the MPX section uses tube diodes, not semiconductors. This attribute is also shared by the Scott 4310 and the Marantz 10/10B. The LT-111/370 is also unusual in using Compactron tubes for the front end and MPX sections.
The IF section uses the same tubes as the contemporary 350D. I haven't had time to compare the schematics. The tubes in the IF are not Compactrons. They are 6AU6, then 6HS5, then 6AU6.
Two of the three tuners came with 6AU6 tubes in place of the 6HS5. The tubes are similar, but the 6HS5 was designed specifically for receiver use. The 6AU6 LT-111 units both work, but who knows how much the performance is affected.
I suspect it would be possible to modify the 370 to be used as a standalone MPX decoder. One guy did that to his Marantz 10B! One reviewer back in the day said the LT-111 was the simplest kit he ever built, and I can believe it.
I have one LT-111 in the system now. It is stock, except that I have removed the "death capacitors." I suspect has never had a professional alignment.
It is IBOC-resistant, no noise from HD radio. The stereo separation is quite respectable. It gives more of a rear-of-the-hall, laid-back perspective than the 310E, which puts you closer and emphasizes transient sounds more.
I haven't had a chance to listen to it for long stretches.
It is technically interesting in that the MPX section uses tube diodes, not semiconductors. This attribute is also shared by the Scott 4310 and the Marantz 10/10B. The LT-111/370 is also unusual in using Compactron tubes for the front end and MPX sections.
The IF section uses the same tubes as the contemporary 350D. I haven't had time to compare the schematics. The tubes in the IF are not Compactrons. They are 6AU6, then 6HS5, then 6AU6.
Two of the three tuners came with 6AU6 tubes in place of the 6HS5. The tubes are similar, but the 6HS5 was designed specifically for receiver use. The 6AU6 LT-111 units both work, but who knows how much the performance is affected.
I suspect it would be possible to modify the 370 to be used as a standalone MPX decoder. One guy did that to his Marantz 10B! One reviewer back in the day said the LT-111 was the simplest kit he ever built, and I can believe it.
Thanks! Right now I am working to fully understand the schematic (not simple) and relate it to the physical tuner. The kit construction manual is a big help. I suspect the 350D will turn out to be very similar in design except for the tubes used.
I have a Fisher MPX-100 and a Scott 335 tube decoder. It took some struggle, but both are now playing well with an Onkyo T-9090 and Sherwood HP 5500 respectively.
In theory, using the LT-111 as a decoder offers some advantages: less demand on the power supply, cooler running. The 6M11Compactron tube was reliability issue for another user, and is not needed in a decoder; the IF section tubes could also be removed.
The LT uses the Scott "C" chassis, so it already has a fair bit of empty space. Regulators, power supply upgrades and cooling fans are under consideration but first it has to work!
Daev Roehr has kindly posted about this and other Scott tube tuners at A/V: HH Scott – Vacuum Tube Audio – FarMedia – Art & Tech.
Of course the sound will be the ultimate test!
I have a Fisher MPX-100 and a Scott 335 tube decoder. It took some struggle, but both are now playing well with an Onkyo T-9090 and Sherwood HP 5500 respectively.
In theory, using the LT-111 as a decoder offers some advantages: less demand on the power supply, cooler running. The 6M11Compactron tube was reliability issue for another user, and is not needed in a decoder; the IF section tubes could also be removed.
The LT uses the Scott "C" chassis, so it already has a fair bit of empty space. Regulators, power supply upgrades and cooling fans are under consideration but first it has to work!
Daev Roehr has kindly posted about this and other Scott tube tuners at A/V: HH Scott – Vacuum Tube Audio – FarMedia – Art & Tech.
Of course the sound will be the ultimate test!