Tuners?
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juncers
Reasonably skeptical about everything
Technics ST-9038
Pioneer F-90
Yamaha CT-800
Sony ST-5950
Yamaha T-1020
Sony ST-3950
Yamaha CR-1000
Technics SA-5460
Sony STR-11L
BBC Radio 3 usually broadcasts with superb fidelity ( especially live broadcasts), so I've become a real tuner fan and collector since moving to England.
Ray
Pioneer F-90
Yamaha CT-800
Sony ST-5950
Yamaha T-1020
Sony ST-3950
Yamaha CR-1000
Technics SA-5460
Sony STR-11L
BBC Radio 3 usually broadcasts with superb fidelity ( especially live broadcasts), so I've become a real tuner fan and collector since moving to England.
Ray
OvenMaster
Baby, you're my winterblue
I ain't gonna worry about FM dying. I saw something online (no, I don't remember where) that even by 2008 we're only gonna have like 4 million IBOC-capable tuners sold in total. Individual stations and owners need to pick up the tab for the digital transmission capability, just like HDTV terrestrial broadcasters do now. That's $100,000 per station. There are supposedly already stations in my area using IBOC and I don't notice any interference with my tin ears. But I have yet to be able to find one single IBOC-capable tuner in any store here. I also clicked on the manufacturer links that iBiquity (the IBOC company) supplies and could not find one single IBOC home tuner available. Same goes for HDTV terrestrial channel set-top converters. Not a one to be found, yet regular NTSC TV sets still get sold on a daily basis.
This is one issue I am NOT losing any sleep over. The installed tuner base in cars, homes and businesses is massive even compared to television sets. The average house has what, 2+ radios per person? I have 4 people in my family and can count 13 analog radios, including in the cars. No way can I afford to replace all of them, never mind even considering pay-per-month XM or Sirius. And let us not forget the environmental nightmare of literally hundreds of millions of "useless" analog tuners, receivers, ghetto blasters, clock radios, portables, car radios, Wal-Mart systems and Walkmans needing to be disposed of! March 2005 Monitoring Times, page 14, had an article all about the state of FM. Kenwood, a maker or IBOC equipment, even admitted that there will still be a large number of analog tuners sold through 2014!
Face it: this is just one company's way of generating license fees and royalties for their own profit, in addition to generating new income for equipment makers. If the music is the same as before, all we consumers end up doing is being forced to dump perfectly good equipment in order to hear the same stuff as before. Take HDTV: I seriously doubt the programs will be any better after a switchover. The only result is that we had to pay for new TV sets. But at least we'll be able to see stars' nose hairs with greater clarity. BFD.
Just like HDTV: I'll believe it when I see it. Let the first adopters shell out the bucks. I refuse to pay for research and development and possible failure. Anyone out there remember DiVX?
Thought so.
Tom
This is one issue I am NOT losing any sleep over. The installed tuner base in cars, homes and businesses is massive even compared to television sets. The average house has what, 2+ radios per person? I have 4 people in my family and can count 13 analog radios, including in the cars. No way can I afford to replace all of them, never mind even considering pay-per-month XM or Sirius. And let us not forget the environmental nightmare of literally hundreds of millions of "useless" analog tuners, receivers, ghetto blasters, clock radios, portables, car radios, Wal-Mart systems and Walkmans needing to be disposed of! March 2005 Monitoring Times, page 14, had an article all about the state of FM. Kenwood, a maker or IBOC equipment, even admitted that there will still be a large number of analog tuners sold through 2014!
Face it: this is just one company's way of generating license fees and royalties for their own profit, in addition to generating new income for equipment makers. If the music is the same as before, all we consumers end up doing is being forced to dump perfectly good equipment in order to hear the same stuff as before. Take HDTV: I seriously doubt the programs will be any better after a switchover. The only result is that we had to pay for new TV sets. But at least we'll be able to see stars' nose hairs with greater clarity. BFD.
Just like HDTV: I'll believe it when I see it. Let the first adopters shell out the bucks. I refuse to pay for research and development and possible failure. Anyone out there remember DiVX?
Thought so.
Tom
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Filmboydoug
Nikko Freako
Primary is a Nikko Gamma V, backup is a NT-890.
wizard_len
Active Member
I guess I'm the odd one out here. I only have two: a Pioneer Elite F-91 and an Onkyo TX-9090II. I have a couple of receivers...does that count?
art2music58
Active Member
Two kenwoods,7300 and a 5500 the 5500 is a killer cheap one! Also a quad fm 3 have not heard it yet the evil din to rca but i exspect good things.Randy.
bob adams
Well-Known Member
The goal of IBOC is not the broadcast of music for listeners. Ibiquity and the radio stations of the future could not care less whether or not you have music or local news to listen to. If they could what they really want to do is the use of the FM band in a totally different way. The goal of IBOC is paying customers for digital sideband transmissions of wireless data. Radio stations have always made money off of sideband transmissions but with digital there will be so many more. So if you don't buy a digital receiver it will be no sweat off their backs. They and their buds over in the FCC have stacked the deck in their own favor to make fortunes on the airwaves the citizens supposedly own. The sheeple are being sold a load of crap and being told digital broadcasting is going to be great for the listener. Don't believe it. It's corporate welfare pure and simple.
I've got a Kenwood Kt 5500, modded Kt 7500 and stock Kt 8300 with slight mods to come.
As for IBOC I don't care to have anything to do with it. I hope it doesn't even get off the ground. Who wants to pay a couple of hundred for a tuner to play compressed mp3's? Imo I think they're going to have a hard time selling the public on this. Even if I were joe blow i'd wonder what the point is when I get everything fine already.
As for IBOC I don't care to have anything to do with it. I hope it doesn't even get off the ground. Who wants to pay a couple of hundred for a tuner to play compressed mp3's? Imo I think they're going to have a hard time selling the public on this. Even if I were joe blow i'd wonder what the point is when I get everything fine already.
Unfortunately, joe blow is ignorant and will only know what the even more ignorant sales guy will tell him when buying. So we will get IBOC. Just another case of the broadcast companies getting what they want (more sideband to sell) while the consumer gets the shaft.warnerwhf said:
Hmmm.... reaching back into the closet and back of the bench... Receivers not listed.bully said:
Revox A700 tuner/preamp. Nixie-tube digital read-out.
Revox B760 Led Digital
Revox A76 Plain Jane, but very effective
Dynaco FM-5 with the "factory" dolby mod. I got it at the factory when Dyna went under. I am not sure it ever was sold that way.
Dynaco FM-3 (2)
Scott LT-110
Soundcraftsmen... it is at our summer house, so I cannot verify the number, but "Made in USA" with the blue LED display and very thin.
Only the Soundcraftsmen is AM/FM, hence its being relegated to the summer house.
I do keep a small FM-stereo transmitter to make the tuners play what I want in every room of the house rather than having to rely on OTA stuff.
Brian
An Old Geezer
Dyna has a module announced for the FM5. I had the advance sheet in my collection. To the best of my knowledge it was never released and some years ago in discussions with Sound Values they also believed it had never been put out to market. Yours may actually be a donkey (prototype, engineering or production sample). When I disposed of my collection the sheet went with it. I had always wanted to query Frank Van Alstine about it but never did.