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Uh oh. Bought another pair of KLH (Model 17)

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Recently, I posted that I rediscovered my KLH model 6 speakers which had been relegated to a closet for a decade or two. I was so impressed when I hooked them up to a good source (even without replacing capacitors) that I decided to try to find another pair for my office. After reading up (thanks for all the great posts here) I bought a pair of KLH Model 17 speakers off an auction site where the cabinets seemed to be in good shape and the seller indicated all was working.

So sort of backwards, here's how I went about restoring these speakers:

The cabinets were in great shape - just a couple of minor dings, though the finish was pretty flat and muddy. Turns out one binding post was loose, but I figured no big deal as I was going to open the cabinets up anyway - easy fix. I decided to gently refinish the cabinets first, before checking out the innards:

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Masked the front of the speaker so no dust would get inside.

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I lightly sanded the cabinets using 320 grit sandpaper with a rubber block just enough to eliminate surface imperfections and age without sanding into the veneer color (except in one small spot). Then I used Howard's Restore a Finish followed by a coat of paste wax. Personally, I have a fair amount of experience with wood finishing and my taste generally would have been to sand the veneer gently clean, apply an aniline dye stain and cover with a shellac finish that is lightly rubbed followed by wax. That would give a little bit more shine than the original flat oil finish. But I was fine with the result.

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I started by removing the woofer and underneath was the linen shroud that protects the woofer from the fiberglass insulation. Then, using gloves, I gently removed all of the fiberglass from the inside - there were about five or six separate pieces.

Here's a good example of the crossover before I replaced the capacitors.

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Unfortunately, I didn't take a lot of pictures once I actually had replaced the crossovers, but i do have a few observations. When disconnecting the woofer and the tweeter, i carefully labeled each wire and where it was connected, even though i had the wiring diagram. I found it easier to clip the wires of the old capacitors attached to the crossover (the double 2mf unit) rather than try to desolder them and then to solder the new caps to the terminals.

For the 8mf capacitor, I used two 4mf capacitors wired together and used a little hot melt glue to attach the assembly to the cabinet after I had connected the appropriate wires. In many cases, it was just as easy to use wire nuts (which is what KLH used originally for many of the attachments) to make connections (but not on the crossover itself).

Here's the new capacitors with the crossover and 8mf ready to be connected (2 4mf capacitors not yet wired or glued in)

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Note that I did not insulate one leg of the capacitor on the crossover - that was a mistake, though not a fatal one - as the size of the capacitor will keep the wire from touching the back plate and creating a short. When I did the second speaker, I insulated all the capacitor wires with sleeves made from the plastic covering of large wires - could have used electrical shrink wraps but didn't have any around.

Here are the old caps I replaced

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Then I reconnected the woofer and tweeter and gently replaced the fiberglass. It may be easier to replace one batt of the fiberglass that goes in the top of the cabinet before remounting the woofer and tweeter. Once all the fiberglass is in, replace the shroud! I did on the first speaker and forgot on the second and had to go back to the garage and remove the woofer again so i could replace it. The linen seems fairly fragile, so again, I gently stuffed in back in.

Next step was testing both speakers - both were working before and sounded decent- but no question that both seem a little sharper with instruments and voices more distinctive. Last step was applying the butyl rubber compound to the surrounds and as i write the speakers are still in the garage allowing some of the solvent to dissipate further.

We'll have to see if the dissolved rubber goo supplied by VintageAR and RoyC does its job on the bass. Very happy with the outcome of the early tests - will update after a few hours of listening.


Next step- redoing the KLH Model 6's that are upstairs.
 
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My Model 6s were in fairly rough shape cabinet wise when I got them. It took a lot of work to get them presentable.

I found these 17s a couple of years ago. Real crappy black paint job. I've since removed some of the paint and found out the veneer underneath is really badly strained and scratched. They may be my first try at veneering. Right now they are just a place to store extra drivers for the 6s
 
Usually with the KLH if you press the woofer in and release and it pops right back out there is too much air leakage. If well sealed it should pop out slower, maybe taking a second or two. Both pairs of my KLH (17 and 6) required several thin coats of dope. It turned black on my Model 17s but stayed lighter on my 6s. I think the 6s had little dope left in the surrounds, could pretty much see through them. After 2 coats the 6s still popped right back out, third coat on the surround and thin coat on the dust cap got it slower on the rebound.
 
My Model 6s were in fairly rough shape cabinet wise when I got them. It took a lot of work to get them presentable.

I found these 17s a couple of years ago. Real crappy black paint job. I've since removed some of the paint and found out the veneer underneath is really badly strained and scratched. They may be my first try at veneering. Right now they are just a place to store extra drivers for the 6s
Those Seventeens are a perfect candidate to re-veneer! Sky’s the limit with so many beautiful exotic veneers available. Go for it!
 
I just bought a pair of Seventeens a couple of days ago too. Real nice cabinets and someone added new connectors to them, so they've been into. I'll still open them and replace the caps and dope the surrounds. Seventeens are really great speakers, good luck with your veneer!

Edit: I just opened these up and found they'd been recapped with Daytons in the correct values. Now just a thin coat of butyl/tuolene and test drive tomorrow!
 
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Those Seventeens are a perfect candidate to re-veneer! Sky’s the limit with so many beautiful exotic veneers available. Go for it!

My only problem is I really don't have a system to put the 17s in. I have four systems, three of them run open baffles. The only box speakers I listen to are the 6s powered by a Sansui 9090, classic 70s system.
 
My only problem is I really don't have a system to put the 17s in. I have four systems, three of them run open baffles. The only box speakers I listen to are the 6s powered by a Sansui 9090, classic 70s system.
They can be strictly a fun project, then sell them. Or, just sell them as is.
 
VD, if those black KLHs are the model 900B, they are a fantastic pair of speakers. I have three pair. I also have a pair of 17s, but have not tried any rehab. They were a nice low priced thrift store find.
 
My only problem is I really don't have a system to put the 17s in. I have four systems, three of them run open baffles. The only box speakers I listen to are the 6s powered by a Sansui 9090, classic 70s system.

I have a pair of Sixes and Seventeens. I have them in my office where I move around a lot - no critical listening. The 6s and 17s are stacked and the sound melds together very well, much like I imagine stacked Advents to sound like.

If one of your systems is not for critical listening, you may want to consider stacking them to see how you like it.
 
I have a pair of Sixes and Seventeens. I have them in my office where I move around a lot - no critical listening. The 6s and 17s are stacked and the sound melds together very well, much like I imagine stacked Advents to sound like.

If one of your systems is not for critical listening, you may want to consider stacking them to see how you like it.

So i just finished a restoration of my model 6s and will post on that shortly. But they sound so good to my ears that I'm keeping those in my office and banishing the 17s - which are a better fit to the room size-wise - upstairs to the guest room/gym. My wife wants a pair in the gym area, so she gets one, but i get to choose which. Really super impressed with the redone Model 6's (which I bought originally in 1975 or 1976) as a student. Recapped, every instrument sings and you can just listen to base tones from drums, guitars, etc that are readily distinguishable even with my 60+ year old ears.
 
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