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Ultrasonic Cleaners - They do Work...

I have the 15L tank, and easily fit 8 records with an inch gap between and around each record.
 
I use 6L tank and 4 at a time. Would I like to do more. Yes, but the price value time proposition wasn't in my favor so I opted to go down this path initially. So far my unit continues to operate as it should. I f I need to replace it down the road I won't feel bad because I didn't pay much for it to start with. The Vinyl Stack Ultra has been great and is a well made and optioned unit.
 
MRL_Audio said:
I use 6L tank and 4 at a time. Would I like to do more. Yes, but the price value time proposition wasn't in my favor so I opted to go down this path initially. So far my unit continues to operate as it should. I f I need to replace it down the road I won't feel bad because I didn't pay much for it to start with. The Vinyl Stack Ultra has been great and is a well made and optioned unit.
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I bought the Vinyl Stack Ultra Sonic Spin Kit (direct from website it`s $15 cheaper than from ebay) a few months ago and paired it with a 9L Ultrasonic tank I found on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/310912443865?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I really like the spin kit alot , but there is a mis-conception that the Vinyl Stack currently holds 4 records. The older version holds 4 records, but they changed it, and the new version now only holds 3 records. My 9 liter ultrasonic cleaner is somewhat overkill for 3 records, but I`d rather it a bit too large than too small. So far I have no complaints on the tank, works as advertised.
 
I guess they moved to three to provide more space between LP's. Not a good move and I would not want to move in that direction. If I ever find myself replacing what I currently have I will look at what 4-2-7 has and move up to the 8-pak.
 
MRL_Audio said:
I guess they moved to three to provide more space between LP's. Not a good move and I would not want to move in that direction. If I ever find myself replacing what I currently have I will look at what 4-2-7 has and move up to the 8-pak.
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I don`t know why they went to 3. I wonder if they felt the magnet was marginal for 4 ?? Seems plenty strong for 3...
 
I read on there Ebay site that they went to 3 for the wider spacing between records for better cleaning of the records.
 
Just email VinylStack on eBay if you need more covers. I worked a deal for 12 total discs of the thinnest he made to reduce total spindle weight to its lowest possible.
 
I have the 3-LP Vinyl Stack, and three at a time is enough for me to handle. Thing is, I do a rinse with filtered water on a record vac after doing the ultrasonic, as that rinses the last of the crud off. So I can do about 15-18 per hour. I get the water warm but not hot, and have no warpage issues.

Check out Harry Weisfeld's thread on VPI's forum, and that is exactly the method he uses (although he uses a second Vinyl Stack). He has tried different methods and has compared the results. Interesting reading!

http://vpiindustries.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2289

For me, personally, nothing I've tried has worked as well as ultrasonic cleaning, followed by the vacuum cycle. I have some new 180g records that come out almost completely silent in terms of background noise. Nice!
 
MRL_Audio said:
I use 6L tank and 4 at a time. Would I like to do more. Yes, but the price value time proposition wasn't in my favor so I opted to go down this path initially. So far my unit continues to operate as it should. I f I need to replace it down the road I won't feel bad because I didn't pay much for it to start with. The Vinyl Stack Ultra has been great and is a well made and optioned unit.
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Would mind sharing what brand your 6L tank is and possibly where you got it?
 
ihmark said:
I don`t know why they went to 3. I wonder if they felt the magnet was marginal for 4 ?? Seems plenty strong for 3...
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Hi folks, haven't posted before but have lurked for a while. Thought I could add a bit from my research. As Bob06 replied, VinylStack made a decision based on feedback from members of the diyAudio forum that the record spacing should be wider than their original 4-record spindle allowed. The goal is to have records spaced 1" apart for more effective ultrasonic cleaning. So, they modified their spindle to accommodate this resulting in a 3-record stack for a 6L tank. As noted before, they also offer an optional 4-record spindle if you have a larger tank (e.g., 10L).

I have a 10L tank and ordered the optional 4-record spindle from them. To use the 4-record spindle, VinylStack says you should have a minimum tank width of 9" to use this new wider spaced 4-record spindle.

If you're interested in reading through the diyAudio's thread on ultrasonic cleaning, you can find it here:
www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/218276-my-version-ultrasonic-record-cleaner.html
 
MRL_Audio said:
I guess they moved to three to provide more space between LP's. Not a good move and I would not want to move in that direction. If I ever find myself replacing what I currently have I will look at what 4-2-7 has and move up to the 8-pak.
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Exactly correct. It was a conscious decision by VinylStack to create more space between LPs because that's what many of their users were requesting. For me, and based on my research, this is a very good change. I've tried 8-record spindles in a 10L tank using the Ultrasonic V-8 setup, and it sure it faster to clean 8 at a time. But I've chosen to go with wider spacing.
 
15L tanks you can do 8 comfortably with one inch spacing. There wasn't a huge difference in price between them and the 6L listed above.
 
Rushton said:
For me, and based on my research, this is a very good change.
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And that's really only a groupthink opinion based on nothing really over at DYI.

Funny logic says the US cleaners are able to clean inside all sorts of small crevasses, grooves and orifices. But now it doesn't clean inside a 3/4" space, and needs to be opened up a 1/4" more to one inch in order to clean right.
 
4-2-7 said:
And that's really only a groupthink opinion based on nothing really over at DYI.
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And now I know why you call yourself Smart Ass, 4-2-7. But, I encourage folks thinking of using less than 1" spacing to do their own research on the issue. Might even be worth actually doing some controlled testing to see what the results you get. :)
 
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Rushton said:
if you're interested in a 10L tank for only a little more than many of the 6L tanks, the Trusonik 10L tanks seem well build and reliable.
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Reliable? and cheap, I already burnt one of these out, but had gotten 1600 records cleaned with it. I did buy another one and it's lasting longer, well I should say I'v cleaned more records with it.

Rushton said:
Might even be worth actually doing some controlled testing to see what the results you get.
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So I haven't tried anything?

Please do tell us all about this controlled testing?

 
Okay, 4-2-7 just earned a place in my Ignore list. I've posted in forums for far to long to put up with snarky comments. I'd like to hang around and contribute to a useful exchange of information, but I no longer have the patience to put up with discourtesy. But, hey folks, this has been your community for a long time. I'm just a newbie contributor here.
 
Wildcat said:
I have the 3-LP Vinyl Stack, and three at a time is enough for me to handle. Thing is, I do a rinse with filtered water on a record vac after doing the ultrasonic, as that rinses the last of the crud off. So I can do about 15-18 per hour. I get the water warm but not hot, and have no warpage issues.

Check out Harry Weisfeld's thread on VPI's forum, and that is exactly the method he uses (although he uses a second Vinyl Stack). He has tried different methods and has compared the results. Interesting reading!

http://vpiindustries.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2289

For me, personally, nothing I've tried has worked as well as ultrasonic cleaning, followed by the vacuum cycle. I have some new 180g records that come out almost completely silent in terms of background noise. Nice!
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Wildcat, I agree about the value of the VPI thread on ultrasonic cleaning. Harry Weisfeld started as a skeptic, observed some negative results in the high frequencies, continued to experiment to resolve the negative issues, and is now wholeheartedly enthusiastic about the results he's getting. Like you, I'm largely following the same setup he's currently using but playing around with what I'm using in the ultrasonic bath (Tertigol rather than Photo-flo, for example) and with filtering the water. I pay attention to HW's comments because he's always willing to actually try something to see if he can get better results.
 
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