Underrated turntables....Share Your Knowledge !!!!!
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stevoz
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Why would we laugh? Nothing wrong with Luxman TT's.....
While I'm here, I'll put in a vote for vintage CEC TT's from the Seventies and Eighties (BD7000, BD6000, BD5200, BD3200) reliable, solid performers and bullet proof.
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stevoz
Active Member
Must be a US thing.......
alteclipsch
Super Member
I have the Lab 400, given to me by a friend. Fantastic table in every way. I can't think of one thing I'd change in it.
I just picked into a Lab 390 too, another sleeper, although with the silver plastic base, which makes it look like millions of others.
mjw21a
Super Member
Yes, I've lusted over the Realistic Lab 400 for a few years now though in reality I have no reason to get one. My JVC QL7 is of a similar level, it's just that the Realistic is so much series. It looks the way a turntable should look, though the Rotel RP 3000 is right up there with it for looks. Maybe even a little better. I love direct droves for their neutral sound, though it's hard to argue that rim drives and belt drives don't have more character
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Wirehead
Active Member
Onkyo CP-1057f: 80's-plastic-fantastic-black-and-gold-look...
Nobody wants them, I do. It's a full auto, direct drive, suspended TT with a lightweight straight arm. Under-valued, and in practice measures better than my PS-x70's (Wow/flutter/rumble).
It does suffer from some cosmetic faults: the finish on the platter might corrode a little, but it's easily fixed.
Nobody wants them, I do. It's a full auto, direct drive, suspended TT with a lightweight straight arm. Under-valued, and in practice measures better than my PS-x70's (Wow/flutter/rumble).
It does suffer from some cosmetic faults: the finish on the platter might corrode a little, but it's easily fixed.
charlesdemar
Active Member
Sanyo Plus Q25. It seems to normally have a problem with cueing drop speed but it can be easily fixed with some silicone oil. Other than that it's a really good budget turntable that can be had for cheap. The Sanyo TP-1020 is a good value too. I think everyone assumes Sanyo is junk and it usually is but those are 2 good examples.
Also the Sansui FR-D3. No one seems to want them and they're pretty ugly but I fail to see how they're any worse than a Technics SL-D2.
Also the Sansui FR-D3. No one seems to want them and they're pretty ugly but I fail to see how they're any worse than a Technics SL-D2.
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Certainly not underrated elsewhere! I remember first hearing one in a magnificent system with an SME arm and Ortofon MC cartridge. I replaced a Technics SL110 with a very similar Hamish Robertson design, the Ariston RD-11s, in '76 and have it to this day.
Vinylmasters
Super Member
I know he said not to mention Technics, but I more than agree on those 'cheap' DD's they had. I have a few of them I have picked up. It's rare to find a problem with them, and with a good cart that sound extremely good for the $$$.
Yes, the BIC were good-sounding tables for the money. I had the 980 and 960 that I cleaned up and gave as part of systems to impecunious friends and relations. Still working and sounding great.
While I couldn't say they are entirely undiscovered and underrated these days (a few of us are loving them to bits) the Rek-O-Kut tables still go for peanuts compared to most others of the same build quality. I love my B-12H. Built like a bridge and sounds great to boot.
Sandstrom
Seldom turns out the way it does in the song
If a fairly decent idler is what you're after, here's one I picked up a little while back waiting for a plinth and resto (Collaro 4T 200). This thing absolutely has the heaviest platter I have ever owned and I've had Rek-O-Kuts, Gates, Thorens, etc. Well, it might be similar to the TD-124 cast iron platter, but it is a shockingly heavy, one piece casting. I think these fly under the radar as 1) Most people equate Collaro with console changers, 2) They have a similar appearance to changers, and 3) Many have never seen or heard of them before as they don't turn up all that often. Make no mistake though, these are solidly built with a full 12" platter.
There is this version that I have:
...and this version that lends itself to easier tonearm arm replacement/swapping (the 4TR 200):
There is this version that I have:
...and this version that lends itself to easier tonearm arm replacement/swapping (the 4TR 200):
Djcoolray
Addicted Member
That's nice how some people have just hung on to one table for whatever reason. But if these are the tables that people have had forever, they should know everything about them and state what makes them great. You know, the wow and flutter. It's just that so many, not all just use the definition of sounding good as a yard stick that can't be used in a comparative way. Because under the radar means something that is great and has been overlooked by the herd. There are under the radar turntables that rival the most popular turntables in construction and sound quality.
Here's one....
Hitachi PS-58: Wow and Flutter 0.025 %, signal to noise ratio 60db
Here's one....
Hitachi PS-58: Wow and Flutter 0.025 %, signal to noise ratio 60db
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
No I won't. That is just a statement of the discussions on AK. Seems neither positive or negative as if I have these tables, I get more selling them. Those looking will pay a bit more. No big deal.
Did you read the rest of my post the part not quoted? I did discuss some of the underrated Philips that were not mentioned and added to the enthusiasm for some that were mentioned. Enjoy.
antv20
Active Member
I snagged a Q40 off fleabay after I had (still having) issues with my Pioneer 115d. Been a solid performer. I was nervous considering were I got it from. I don't have much experience to compare.
KrisM
Lunatic Member
You pretty much just described my current TT situation.
I have an XA that was $20, an SL-Q3 that was $20, a PS-X40 that was $7(needed a headshell and a foot, though), a PS-X55 that was a throw-in with another unit, and a PS-X70 that was about $75. The X70 needs some work, but it came with a Shure V15III.
moewillis
just to recap, i love recapping
he (or she) is super defensive. there was nothing wrong with your post whatsoever.