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Vintage receivers (Onkyo...)

bambino

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I’m thinking of looking for an Onkyo TX 2500 to match with my Sansui sp-30 speaker’s and U Turn turntable.

I’ve noticed they’re only inputs are AM, FM and phono. Is there any way to connect an aux input to these to use CD tape or Bluetooth input?

If not, what other affordable vintage receivers would be good?

Thanks!
 
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Tape Monitor. A normal high level input for those line level output devices.
Onkyo gave an extra tape monitor instead of an aux input on a number of units. The TX-4500 next one up from the 2500 had three tape monitors but no aux. Makes selection a push button instead of twisting the input selector knob and gives the ability to use it for more than just an input. Maybe an EQ or other signal processor could be used or Cassette and Reel to Reel back then.
The 2500 has two tape loops, one more than the common single loop on receivers under 40 watts per channel back then.
 
Tape Monitor. A normal high level input for those line level output devices.
Onkyo gave an extra tape monitor instead of an aux input on a number of units. The TX-4500 next one up from the 2500 had three tape monitors but no aux. Makes selection a push button instead of twisting the input selector knob and gives the ability to use it for more than just an input. Maybe an EQ or other signal processor could be used or Cassette and Reel to Reel back then.
The 2500 has two tape loops, one more than the common single loop on receivers under 40 watts per channel back then.

Thanks. I hadn’t thought about that.

I would be pairing it with sansui sp30 speakers rated at 8 ohms and a max of 20 watts but which are quite efficient. Would the Onkyo’s 27 wpc be enough reserve power? My stereo setup is in a mid sized bedroom so I don’t need LOADS of volume. Could I still hook up a subwoofer at some point? Would I even need to?
 
Right amount of power. Not so much you will have issues if you crank it and enough to crank it and enjoy. Sure a sub could be added, of course you want to but do you need to?
 
Right amount of power. Not so much you will have issues if you crank it and enough to crank it and enjoy. Sure a sub could be added, of course you want to but do you need to?

Yeah I don’t think I need a sub. The sansuis seem to put out enough volume anyway even in a decent sized room.

Right now I’m using a shitty New Sony amp. It’s rated at “up to 100 wpc” so I’m just trying not to crank it too much so I don’t blow the speakers. It sounds like an Onkyo would be a good upgrade if I can find one.
 
When I connect my iPhone can I just simply get something that adapts from the lightning jack to RCA and plug those into the tape deck input? Or do I need to do the whole DAC business?
 
When I connect my iPhone can I just simply get something that adapts from the lightning jack to RCA and plug those into the tape deck input? Or do I need to do the whole DAC business?
Your iPhone essentially is a DAC so yes, get the proper cable adapter and it will work.
 
I have both the 2500 and the 4500mkii. You will be happy with the 2500 I’m pretty sure, but you would really like the 4500. Really good value in those onkyo units.
 
I gifted a 2500 to a friend and also have the 4500 mk II. The 2500 is a nice solid unit been trying to have them let me restore it finally have it back when it started dropping a channel. I will be restoring it and will swap it back for the Pioneer SX-535 I loaned them. Being inside both Onkyo units both seemed a bit overbuilt. I have a good impression of Onkyo. Take the 2500 over the SX-535, not sure when you step up to an SX-636.

Lots of good vintage units to choose from the major brands (Pioneer, Sansui, Kenwood, etc), many lesser brands (Sherwood, Nikko, Rotel, Optonica from Sharp, Phillips to name a few), and even some good store brand units like Concept (Pacific Stereo), Modular Component Systems (yes JCPenney did hifi), Realistic (Radio Shack), and Lafeyette who just put their store name on theirs and there were others. The lower power units under 40 wpc tend to sell for much more reasonable prices since the big money tends to chase top of the line units, the marquee brands and coveted series, and the more powerful units from the monster era of the late 70s when the max power ratings shot up to as high as 330 watts per channel.

You can do what I often have done. See a nice unit (even lower powered) for sale in local or regional online ads (Craigslist, Offerup, FB Marketplace, etc) look up the model here and on the web to capture other audio sites and see what comments they get. Surprising how some lower power units get talked well of repeatedly some that come to mind are the Sherwood S-7100A and 7200, Pioneer SX-636 and 737, Sansui 1000X, 2000A cheaper than the X model, 800, or even the Onkyo TX-2500 or 4500 (and the Mk II versions that followed).

Be aware a lot of these vintage units are 40-50 years old and it is surprising that some units all original are still working at that age. Often they need repair and restoration to work much less sound their best. Learn to fix them and cheap fix and repairs can be acquired and brought back to life. Ones that old usually need restoration anyway.
 
I’m thinking of looking for an Onkyo TX 2500 to match with my Sansui sp-30 speaker’s and U Turn turntable.

I’ve noticed they’re only inputs are AM, FM and phono. Is there any way to connect an aux input to these to use CD tape or Bluetooth input?

If not, what other affordable vintage receivers would be good?

Thanks!
Get the TX- 2500 mkII
 
Thanks, everyone. Got the Onkyo hooked up today and I love it. It really brings out the quality of my sansui sp-30 speakers.

Got an RCA adapter to plug my iPhone into the tape deck. The radio plays significantly louder than the iPhone. The radio is already quite loud with the knob at 25%. With the iPhone plugged in and iphone volume at about 80% the stereo know is almost at 50% and I’m tempted to turn the base up a notch or two. Is that normal?

Yeah, the other models do seem awesome but this one was a good wattage for my speakers, which I got because they were the right size for the space I put them in my room and I read they sp-30s are thought by some to be better than the sp-50s. Then the tx-2500 was the right price on Reverb. It didn’t say restored but the LED light service, complete testing, and in/out cleaning sounded good. The unit sounds great but I’m not informed enough to know if there’s some other restoration services it needs but it looks pristine and sounds good to me.

I’m sure this is all a pretty uninformed newbie way to start putting together a vintage system. Sure maybe I should’ve sought out a vintage hifi place and consulted more but I wanted to get a move on and it seems to be going well. So far for about $400 I have the sansui speakers and the Onkyo. It’ll be even better once I get a turntable and can play my records again.

I’m stoked to be getting into hifi and to be a part of AK.
 
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With the iPhone plugged in and iphone volume at about 80% the stereo know is almost at 50% and I’m tempted to turn the base up a notch or two. Is that normal?

The Iphone or android head phone jack produces 1.1v where as the input of aux or line levels is pretty standard @avg. 2.0v, is why you have to turn up the volume. If phone vol. is at max and still not enough to limit amp adjustment so high, there may some iphone hack out there or you can get a speaker boost app. There are some pay for with various equalizer enhancements or free with ads. Generally with the app you have to adjust the phone vol. to the amp input and vol. setting and not put too much pressure on the phones audio chip as you can damage it. Also too high on the phone will reveal a garbled signal so it's a balancing act.
 
Got an RCA adapter to plug my iPhone into the tape deck. The radio plays significantly louder than the iPhone. The radio is already quite loud with the knob at 25%. With the iPhone plugged in and iphone volume at about 80% the stereo know is almost at 50% and I’m tempted to turn the base up a notch or two. Is that normal?
Yes, quite normal. As Binkman says, the output from your iPhone is a lower level. All my portable digital MP3 players are the same. They run off a battery so they have a lower output to keep the batteries from draining too soon.
 
You can get a buffer to boost the signal from your phone. The FX tube buffer would do the job nicely for around $30.
 
It gives one an appreciation of turning the volume down before making any changes in the rig.

That way no one hears you make mistakes which used to be sliding the needle across the record, then switching from phono to CD which were generally much louder and now switching from the iThingy to other sources which are much louder.

Learn that behavior and it will provide dividends through a stereo system listening career.
 
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Congratulations on the TX-2500, it is a nice lower powered receiver.

You get used to changing the volume with different sources. Tuner will be at one level, AUX (CD or computer) at another, each of them can be different, each digital song can vary a lot in volume, and expect with a turntable to really have to turn it up. With the 2000A currently in the workroom setup switch from AUX to FM and forget to turn down the volume I get a blast.

It was my main receiver a couple years ago. A $10 score at the Goodwill up the street. That was an interesting experience when I took to the register a couple of guys in line were making fun of me for buying the old thing. When I checked it out on the shelf then headed toward the register on the way a woman grabbed my arm said they donated it and it was good. My friend has been listening to it for several years at their place. I gifted them the TX-2500, Advent Baby IIs, Polk PSW10 powered subwoofer, and a basic single play Kenwood CD player as a Christmas gift a few years ago. Ended up a good sounding budget system.

I like Onkyo. The TX-2500 Mk II was my first receiver bought back in 1980 had it for 10 years also had the TA-2020 tape deck early on until it quit being able to record. For a long time I think Onkyo was like Toshiba on TVs, built solid durable stuff. Did not sell at a discount. Was impressed with the build quality in the TX-2500 and 4500 Mk II.
 
Pictures of your system are always nice.

Took a pic inside the one I am going to be working on and it is more overbuilt than a lot of vintage receivers rated at twice the power. Large rectifier diodes and the driver transistors and main power supply transistors are TO-220 types with sizable heat sinks. On many much more powerful receivers the driver and power supply transistors are not on heat sinks. Keeps the operating temperatures down which should help durability. Thinking of the older Sony it is sitting on top of I am also working on. Too many over baked components in the Sony's power supply and amp circuits. That one is going to need a lot of work.

You can use it until it develops problems. When it does plenty of expertise to tap here to help get it fixed.
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To the OP: enjoy! The Onkyo TX-2500 is great-sounding, has an excellent tuner and built like a tank. I preferred mine to a much more expensive Marantz 2226B, and every other low-powered SS receiver I've had.
 
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