HTHMAN
Super Member
So you are talking about an Apple product??
What would happen if
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So you are talking about an Apple product??
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hi-fi or die
My predictions.
Some - not a majority - would dump everything they have and hop on the bandwagon with a subset of those competing to see who could get the most out of a gold or platinum plated multi-thousand dollar version of the new system.
Some - again not a majority - would just ignore the system and continue doing what they've done all along with a subset of those being angry that the new system even exists because of how it hurts sales of new classic style equipment.
Some - possibly a majority of the general public - would just be puzzled and / or confused by all the claims and counter-claims.
Then there would be me, who would wait for the inevitable appearance of one of the new systems at the SA Thrift store for $19.99 on senior discount day.
Mark Gosdin
In other words..."same as it ever was". Once in a lifetime? :lmao:
Slippery slope letting material possessions define who we are.
SoCal Sam
Lunatic Member
As in filled in music for earbuds and beats headphones? Oh no, I mentioned beats headphones in an open forum.
Porkloin
Oscar Heil Groupie
The Point
If the system was indeed perfect, it would duplicate the performer's sound as if they were actually in the room, effectively eliminating the subjectivity that is such a major part of the hobby.
If such a thing came out, I'd get in on the IPO of a company that manufactures room treatment.
If the system was indeed perfect, it would duplicate the performer's sound as if they were actually in the room, effectively eliminating the subjectivity that is such a major part of the hobby.
If such a thing came out, I'd get in on the IPO of a company that manufactures room treatment.
I'd wait 'til it went on sale.
shelly_d
Not An Audiophool
Someone would start selling some "magic tweak" piece of slock to "dramatically improve" the "soundstage", "room resonances", eliminate standing waves and make your teeth whiter all for the low low price of 1999.95 each. And then we here at AK would start debating the pros and cons of it.
Shelly_D
Shelly_D
Tom Bombadil
AK Member
If the system were perfect, it would perfectly reproduce the sound as recorded on the source media. That could be mixed far from perfect. And some people have preferences which alter the sound. Some like more bass, rolled off highs, a bit of midrange warmth, etc.
I've attended live music performances where the sound was awful. And if it had been perfected captured on a recording, I wouldn't listen to it.
Get it, adapt an interface to my existing gear and incorporate it. I already have everything in my main rig from Revere cartridges to thumb drives.
Enjoy,
Rich P
Enjoy,
Rich P
This perfect reproduction of perfect sound quality,timbre,dynamics,and soundstage would also reproduce perfectly the imperfect sound of the currently imperfect microphones we use, so in fact very little would change at all.
just dave
vintage rules!
This perfect reproduction of perfect sound quality,timbre,dynamics,and soundstage would also reproduce perfectly the imperfect sound of the currently imperfect microphones we use, so in fact very little would change at all.
No I'm talkin a complete system.This includes the speakers, amp and source, it won't work with any other components.ALL OR NOTHING.And this includes the recording process and mixing and mastering.If it's all about the music like some say then would you give up your current system? I'm a collector so I would have both.It's more than just the music for me.
I would stick with my own equipment. I have too much love for it to abandon it for the latest gizmo and it's served me well
Given that your proposition is 'Pie in the Sky' with no current sense that we are close to that; Why do you need to garner people's opinion?
I feel that your putting an incredibly affordable figure of $500 on this speculative technology which sweeps aside 100 years of effort and industry sets-up a situation where you can challenge anyone's refusal of it. Like, "It's affordable so why don't you want it?".
The reality is that it would take millions of dollars to develop because as you say, it entails everything from the microphone to the storage medium, to the means to distribute the music to the playback mechanism. This means raising capital to purchase manufacturing plants, organise training for the skilled labour meant to construct this novel technology(microphones, storage, distribution, playback). There has to be training for repair and maintenance of these novel technologies, training for tuition in the usage of these items, sales, marketing, advertising, promotional efforts. All of these things also cost millions, even billions in total and it sells for $500?
If it costs billions and it sells for 500, it either achieves instantaneous marketplace acceptance worldwide(ie everyone embraces it immediately) or it becomes a financial loss situation for the developers and realistically dies or is only a marginal niche product(similar to SACD's failure though it is vastly superior to CD on paper). Even today, one can buy SACD players brand new for a few hundred dollars and 99.9999999999% of humanity either doesn't know it exists or couldn't care less that it does exist. Why do you think that the situation would be any different with this proposed breakthrough?
Given that SACD hasn't meant that there had to be wholesale changes to every recording studio, broadcasting corporations, manufacturing bases. Sure they had to buy DSD recorders but they could keep their monitors amps mixers, mikes etc. What you are proposing throws all of that, everywhere, on the trash heap. To use this new technology that you moot would destroy dozens of industries that manufacture all of the current technology: Why do you think that the cost would be only $500?
This sounds like one of those poorly thought-through questions that Catman would ask.
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lizard84
Abider
Perfect to whom?
It's an impossible question posed on a forum where the only thing that is certain is nearly universal disagreement on nearly every front, not because anyone is wrong but because of personal preference, opinion and ideology.
But in the spirit of playing along, there is a setup I'm considering that while not conforming to your impossibly narrow constraints.
It exists today and is radically different in form from what I'm used to. A Devialet 400, I'm very tempted. I wouldn't toss my old stuff but it would be heading to the 2nd system.
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MannyE
Exterminate!
I don't think it's a bad question at all. It's designed to gauge who is in it for the music and who is in it for the flash.
It's just a hypothetical which assumes all those practical concerns you mention have been surmounted.
And if you think new technology can be stopped because it eliminates entire industries, go talk to television post production people and production personnel. Ask how many people were in a typical local news control room in 1990 vs today. Don't worry I'll tell you. It went from 12 give or take down to 1.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
It's just a hypothetical which assumes all those practical concerns you mention have been surmounted.
And if you think new technology can be stopped because it eliminates entire industries, go talk to television post production people and production personnel. Ask how many people were in a typical local news control room in 1990 vs today. Don't worry I'll tell you. It went from 12 give or take down to 1.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
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Then it is an unrealistic question which needs to throw reality aside and not worth considering.
MannyE
Exterminate!
Jeez. You woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
Jeez. You woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
Look, it's like asking: "If my Father was my Mother, how would he deliver a baby via his penis?"
The question requires sweeping so much of the reality out the window, that it is a farce to ask it.
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