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Which vintage headphones would you buy?

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I was lucky enough to come across a complete vintage Marantz set up from the original owner who purchased the system in 1974.

Im new at this and was very lucky to get my stuff at a garage sale. My wife is now "suggesting" headphones. I want to get a good set of headphones from the same era.

If you had just spent $2000 on a stereo system in 1974, which headphones would you have purchased to go with it.

Thanks for any suggestions...

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I remember Koss headphones were hot in the 70's. Not sure if they were the best. Hope this helps-
http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/kmuseum?openform&70s^Products
 
Koss still makes the Pro4aa they would be from that period. Though in my opinion it's a waste of money to track down a pair of actual vintage cans. There are many draw back to headphones that other vintage components don't suffer from. 1. They can't really be serviced (with the exception of a few Koss models) which means they can never preform as well as they did new. 2. Price,people seam to think that because they are old they are worth a fortune. 3. Availability, like most consumer electronics or any era most people tosses them out if they broke or upgraded to new phones. This makes t very hard to find a good set in working order. 4. The sad truth is honestly they can't really compete with most of the nicer higher end phones that are available today. My dads venerable Kops Pro4aa's (which were recently serviced by koss) were trounced bt my much newer ATH-AD700's, it's not that they failed miserably it's just that they honestly weren't as good and the AT's were better value for the price (IMO). I'm not saying lay down 6k on some cans far from it but you would be surprised what one Franklin can get you on amazon.
 
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Very cool thread topic.

My choices for vintage would be some STAX, and some AKG K240 "Sextett" models (they must be the Sextett models).

However, I'd also say the modern Grados, as mentioned, have a vintage look to them. SR225i is a great model, and the SR325is is the aluminum slightly pricier model. There's also the real wood RS-2 models.

Even the AKG K702s, I feel, hava a vintage look to them.

I have AKG K240 Sextetts, AKG K702s, and Grado RS225is and RS-2s, love them all- from looks to performance.
 
I was lucky enough to come across a complete vintage Marantz set up from the original owner who purchased the system in 1974.

Im new at this and was very lucky to get my stuff at a garage sale. My wife is now "suggesting" headphones. I want to get a good set of headphones from the same era.

If you had just spent $2000 on a stereo system in 1974, which headphones would you have purchased to go with it.

Thanks for any suggestions...

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I spent $2300 on my Yamaha & B&O stereo in '76. Two weeks later my wife was also "suggesting" headphones. I bought Yamaha HP-1 "Orthos" (think little 55 mm Magnaplanar's on your head for $200. With a little bit of DIY dampening and sealing to improve the bass, they sound amazing. If you're into detail, 8 out of 10 "Orthoheads" over at headfi.com would agree you have to spend a whole lot more on electrostatics to reallt beat a good pair of orthos. A guy over there just yesterday scored a pair of HP-1's for $14 incl shipping. If I had a grand to spend I'd like to audition the Audeeze LCD-2's, but that's an itch left best unscratched for now. Let us know what you end up with.
 
I spent $2300 on my Yamaha & B&O stereo in '76. Two weeks later my wife was also "suggesting" headphones. I bought Yamaha HP-1 "Orthos" (think little 55 mm Magnaplanar's on your head for $200. With a little bit of DIY dampening and sealing to improve the bass, they sound amazing. If you're into detail, 8 out of 10 "Orthoheads" over at headfi.com would agree you have to spend a whole lot more on electrostatics to reallt beat a good pair of orthos. A guy over there just yesterday scored a pair of HP-1's for $14 incl shipping. If I had a grand to spend I'd like to audition the Audeeze LCD-2's, but that's an itch left best unscratched for now. Let us know what you end up with.

+1 on this, I am one of these orthoheads:yes::D

If you don't go with one of the vintage ortho's the AKG K340's are also very nice and from that era.
 
The OP has about two hours to find exactly what he probably wants on ebay. It starts with an M.
 
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+1 on the Sennheiser HD 424, bought mine over 30 years ago, still love them.

For those with headphones that sport an impedance like these (2000ohms), the best way to use them is to hook them directly to the speaker outs of the power amp. Impedance matching is only important when power is being transferred - the head phones will only pull a micro-level of power and sound great. This would probably be OK for 600ohm cans, too... not sure how low an impedance one can safely do this, but the HD 424 manual states it is perfectly safe for amp and cans (2000ohms) to connect directly to the speaker outs.

In order to do this you will need to clip off the plug and separate the wires... but this is a very good thing! The beauty of the Sennheisers is that they don't make the common ground until just before the plug - so when you cut the plug off you get four wires, two per channel; instead of the three conductor ring-tip-sleeve of the plug where the two negatives (grounds) of the channels are shared...

Listening to the two channels independently without the common ground is a far superior sound! Clarity, image, noise... everything sounds improved. If you have separate mono-block power amps it is even more delightful.
 
I have a box full of once-high-end vintage headphones that, despite my best efforts at cleaning, damping, etc... never quite live up to what I hear from newer ones. It's one area where audio definitely has improved... or else it's an area where age really takes its toll, or maybe a bit of both.

Vintage headphones also tend to be quite heavy, and often the earpads don't breathe well, and get hot/sweaty rather quickly.

If you want comfort and top sound quality, go modern. There aren't many areas where I say that (I'm mostly a "vintage guy"), but headphones is one of them. Then again, if you want REALLY good sound, modern headphones get expensive. The only ones I've found that really satisfy my ears are all around a thousand dollars, or even more.

That said, if you want good vintage sound you can look for:

1. Vintage Stax, still in working condition. There is sound leakage in both directions, but the electrostatics are still the clearest, most life-like cans out there. That said, they tend to be weaker on bass, so if you are into heavy thumping, these may not cut it for you.

2. Orthodynamics, as mentioned above. These are the next-best thing to electrostatics, and are much cheaper. Several brands can be found.

3. If you define "vintage" as extending into the 1980s and 1990s, then look for TOTL Sennheisers and Denons; they sounded very good, indeed. This is sort of getting into the "used" market, as opposed to vintage. If your aim is simply a bargain with good sound, and you aren't trying to "match" the vintage of your gear, then used but more recent higher-end phones may be what you're looking for.

4. Earlier than that (true "vintage", as I see it), look for Koss and AKGs -- the big, professional models used in studios in those days. AKG made one in particular, that sounded really good. Unfortunately I don't remember the model number of it. These tend to be the best of the vintage models, in terms of sonics.

Since your system is Marantz, you should know that Marantz turned out several models of headphones. I've even found some cool smaller metal-framed brown-toned ones that match their 80s series of boomboxes and "midi" systems. They don't sound bad, but they aren't exactly hi-fi, either. I keep my pair of these with a large, rare boombox, just for authenticity and completeness, but I never choose them as my regular listening headphones.

Whatever you choose to go with, good luck. I have to say I had a lot of fun hunting out and trying various vintage headphones, and playing around with tweaking them (usually reversible tweaks, like sticking Blu-tac on the backs of the motors (magnet/coil assemblies). A few times I had the pleasure of hearing an improved or more "exciting" sound, but never found a pair I was really satisfied with. I had to turn to modern headphones to get that, even if I'd rather have the build quality and nostalgic appeal of the vintage cans. YMMV.
 
Wow, alot of good info. I think Im going to have to get a set of modern and vintage headphones.

Thanks a bunch for the replies...

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