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Wood Glue as Vinyl Cleaner

if you use titebond exteneded you dont have to worry about tabs,i starts to seperate on its own,i out a bit of masking tape over the edge and its comes away very easy.:thmbsp:
 
Even if I never try this (and I hope to do so soon), this thread has been entertaining as hell. I especially liked the guy who used the rotating cake stand!
 
Very entertaining thread. It was like reading someones growing pains

I've been doing this for years in addition to using a conventional wet wash vacuum off machine for normal everyday cleaning, for records that are very dirty though I have yet to find anything that cleans as deeply.

For 2nd hand records of low value that I pick up at boot fairs and charity shops it is a great method

As has been said many times it is a time consuming process though and potentially messy so not for the impatient or craft challenged.

In the UK I tried a few glues until I found a suitable glue and now use Barrettine trade which is superb. It always comes of in one mask so I never need to use any tapes just a finger nail at the edge to get it started.
 
I tried this for the first time this week. I had a thrift store find that had a lot of surface noise so I had nothing to lose. I used Titebond II and I thought I put on a reasonable amount. Even in the hot dry Colorado climate it took a good three days to dry, so I guess I used too thick a layer. But the results were good. Surface noise wasn't eliminated, but the volume and amount was greatly reduced.
 
allenh said:
In the UK I tried a few glues until I found a suitable glue and now use Barrettine trade which is superb. It always comes of in one mask so I never need to use any tapes just a finger nail at the edge to get it started.
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never heard of this glue before,where do you buy it from?
 
jamie123 said:
never heard of this glue before,where do you buy it from?
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I found this on a Google search:

http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/ProductHandler?code=DDC300027

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@jamie123 If you are going to B&Q don't use the Evo Stik Super Evo Bond when it dries it won't come of as a single mask and it's a bugger to get off in general, it comes off in little bits and I picked at it for ages, I had to wash the test record I used with it to get the final bits off.

I still have the pot I bought here and it actualy gets used to glue wood rather than clean records
 
I tried this yesterday for the first time. Haven't yet peeled the glue off. One question: how do you keep glue from going off the edge? In a few places, some glue went over the edge and got stuck to the edge of the other side. Hopefully that peels off OK.

Things I learned so far:

- make sure the record is completely level when you set it to dry

- warm up the glue just a bit so the coverage is more even (although it wasn't bad)
 
allenh said:
Id be interested to know how you get on with that one?
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update, dodnt bother with B&Q's won brand of pva its not a patch on titebond extend,gonna stick with that in future.
@starquest,youve just gotta be careful when you come to spread it near the edge,steady hand etc.
 
Peeled it off and seemed to work pretty well. I did a before and after recording and a lot of the rice krispies are gone.

But the most fun thing was playing the "negative." I used an old crappy cartridge and I had to hold it on the record, but it worked! I reversed the recording with my computer! Most awesome thing I've seen all day.
 
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Peeled it off and seemed to work pretty well. I did a before and after recording and a lot of the rice krispies are gone.

But the most fun thing was playing the "negative." I used an old crappy cartridge and I had to hold it on the record, but it worked! I reversed the recording with my computer! Most awesome thing I've seen all day.
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I've not tried it yet but the few I've heard who have all say it's a bit of an experience.

@jamie123 and @starquest to apply the glue I spin my records on my cleaning machine as it spins slow but some people use old turntables that they have slowed right down, I use a cheap glue bottle with a 1 or 2mm nozzle and apply the glue in a circle from the centre out with 10mm ish gaps between the glue lines. I'ts trial and error to work out how much you need and it depends on the glue you use, I then spread it using a rectangle of plastic I cut out from the lid of a Chinese takeaway box.

I very rarely have drips on the other side but if I do they peel off fine when it's all dried.

How did the cheap B&Q stuff peel when it had dried? I take that you could play it meant it came of in one piece?
 
allenh said:
I've not tried it yet but the few I've heard who have all say it's a bit of an experience.

@jamie123 and @starquest to apply the glue I spin my records on my cleaning machine as it spins slow but some people use old turntables that they have slowed right down, I use a cheap glue bottle with a 1 or 2mm nozzle and apply the glue in a circle from the centre out with 10mm ish gaps between the glue lines. I'ts trial and error to work out how much you need and it depends on the glue you use, I then spread it using a rectangle of plastic I cut out from the lid of a Chinese takeaway box.

I very rarely have drips on the other side but if I do they peel off fine when it's all dried.

How did the cheap B&Q stuff peel when it had dried? I take that you could play it meant it came of in one piece?
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I used Titebond II; it came off in one piece. The few drips that went on the other side peeled off fine, as you said. The fact that the negative was playable really shows how deeply the glue penetrates the grooves.

The test record was the s/t Blood Sweat & Tears that my mother-in-law gave me. It wasn't in horrible condition to start, but it was very crackly and had a few noisy spikes. A lot of that noise is gone; the record simply looks cleaner too.

I'm now trying it on a record I do want to improve, not just play around with.

I should also mention that I don't see any reason to use tabs. I put one on the record and the glue under it didn't dry (as another person noted). I just peeled it with a fingernail and it was fine.
 
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How did the cheap B&Q stuff peel when it had dried? I take that you could play it meant it came of in one piece?
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it didnt come off in one piece and took about 12 hrs to fully dry! no where near as good as the titebond extend:thumbsdn: it also was still very rubbery where as the titebond felt kinda brittle and starts to seperate by itself after 8 hrs.:thmbsp:
 
jamie123 said:
it didnt come off in one piece and took about 12 hrs to fully dry! no where near as good as the titebond extend:thumbsdn: it also was still very rubbery where as the titebond felt kinda brittle and starts to seperate by itself after 8 hrs.:thmbsp:
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I did wonder it does seem you get what you pay for as all the cheap ones seem poor but also it is hit and miss with the more expensive glues, the Evo Stick I expected to work and it was no good and a builder friend gave me a gallon of Wurth that I again expected to work and it was also poor. Find a good one and stick to it, no pun intended:D
 
OK guys...

I'll admit I haven't read all 126 pages of this thread. Has anyone in the UK used No Nonsense PVA from Screwfix, or Evo-Stik wood adhesive (green bottle)?

I'm talking about the basic PVA in 5l containers, not the PVA-based glue. What is the extra ingredient in the glue?
 
I wonder if anyone's experimented with measuring the glue before applying it. There must be a range that is acceptable. I think I put too much glue on this past time because it still wasn't completely dry after 36 hours.

Also wondering if anyone's experimented with using a fan to speed the drying process.
 
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