Yamaha or Pioneer? Who do you think makes the better receivers?

[baretta]

I'm considering buying a new stereo receiver.

 

[Harvestor]

AV Surround Sound
Pioneer Elite

Vintage Stereo Receivers
1976 thru 1979 Yamaha

I have personally purchased 5 Pioneer Elite surround since 2008
And 4 other Pioneer Surround Sound Receivers since 1992

I am biased.

The Yamaha surround receivers I purchased were returned 2 times and replaced with Pioneer surround Receivers

 

[JoeESP9]

 

[HiFi in WYO]

Whichever one sounds good with your speakers and more importantly to your ears.

 

[nickrobotron]

For a brand new, true 2.0 stereo, I would go with the new Yamaha. The A-S801 has a beautiful vintage style and is packed full of amazing features. Really great quality DAC and phono stage. There's almost nothing else on the market like it except for NAD (cheaper) and Parasound (very expensive). Neither of those companies look as good as the Yamaha!

 

[Dswankey]

I'm considering buying a new stereo receiver.

Brand new?

 

[musichal]

Stereo receiver? Good man.

I think then Pioneer, now Yamaha. Have no earthly reason in the way of fact to back this up. So I won't even charge two cents. Just pulled it out of my, uh... just puled it out of thin air. Personally, I think an integrated amp is the way to go, and Yamaha sells reasonably good ones for a reasonable price currently.

 

[Audiofreak71]

Like @musichal said an integrated (or separates) if you can swing it Would be the best route to take imo . I’ve owned both pioneer elite and Yamaha receivers and still have a totl Yamaha receiver I use for home theater so I’m partial to Yamahas and there sound compared to pioneer that I just didn’t prefer and I owned pioneer elites highest end receiver the pioneer elite sc-09 with the ice amps and I just never liked the sound with 2ch . It’s all subjective though as we all know so you may like one over the other you just have to try them and decide for yourself.

Audiofreak71

 

[onepixel]

Yamaha

Streaming, Wifi and Bluetooth compatible. Besides the other regular goods.

 

[darkblue94]

Don't buy a surround sound receiver to use for two channel audio. As previously stated, Yamaha makes some damned fine stereo receivers and even better two channel integrated amplifiers.

 

[Bodyblue]

https://www.us.marantz.com/us/Produ...tId=HiFiComponents&SubCatId=&ProductId=PM8006

 

[baretta]

Brand new?

Yes.

 

[Schurkey]

I'm considering buying a new stereo receiver.

Why a receiver? I wouldn't walk across the street for a free tuner, let alone pay for one. iHeart can K-M-A.

But maybe you actually WANT to listen to radio...

If not, you ought to be looking at separates, or perhaps an integrated amp.

 

[savatage1973]

Yamaha 2-channel integrated by far. Want a tuner to go with it--go to any thrift store or flea market with a fin in your pocket.

 

[Dazaa]

Are there companies producing 2 channel Stereo Receivers in 2018?

 

[tom67]

Are there companies producing 2 channel Stereo Receivers in 2018?

Here"s some

https://www.accessories4less.com/ma...-audio/receivers-amps/stereo-receivers/1.html

 

[Harvestor]

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/r-n803__photo_circuit_1200x640_1eff5c109fb177d802bbd704f3d14181.jpg

https://www.accessories4less.com/ma...x-100-watts-networking-stereo-receiver/1.html

Look at that look at that transformer!
This would be the receiver I would get for stereo

 

[Schurkey]

Look at that look at that transformer!
This would be the receiver I would get for stereo

Look at that look at that owner's manual!
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/downlo...b_ZX95350_R-N803_R-N803D_om_URL_EnFrEs_A0.pdf

Yamaha has gotten so cheap that the power supply Strangulation Switch is now implemented in software, as part of the "advanced set-up menu". They can't even provide a hard-wired manual switch. If your speakers are 8-ohm nominal, that's maybe not a problem. Mine were advertised as 4-ohm, but modifications I've made since then will have reduced the impedance somewhat.

The thing is going to suck into a 4-ohm load. Whether that's due to an undersized power supply, undersized heat sinks, or underengineered output transistors (or some combination) I can't tell you. I can guarantee that Yamaha cut corners to improve profit margins, and the result is compromised "low"-impedance drive capacity. (To me, a nominal 4-ohm load doesn't really qualify as "low impedance", when 4-ohm nominal impedance has become hugely popular in the speaker world. <2 ohm nominal is "low" impedance.)

 

[mhardy6647]

FWIW, Pioneer sold their home electronics division to Onkyo a while back (2014).
https://www.cnet.com/news/pioneer-electronics-onkyo-combine-to-keep-pace-with-competition/

 

[Harvestor]

Look at that look at that owner's manual!
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/downlo...b_ZX95350_R-N803_R-N803D_om_URL_EnFrEs_A0.pdf

Yamaha has gotten so cheap that the power supply Strangulation Switch is now implemented in software, as part of the "advanced set-up menu". They can't even provide a hard-wired manual switch. If your speakers are 8-ohm nominal, that's maybe not a problem. Mine were advertised as 4-ohm, but modifications I've made since then will have reduced the impedance somewhat.

The thing is going to suck into a 4-ohm load. Whether that's due to an undersized power supply, undersized heat sinks, or underengineered output transistors (or some combination) I can't tell you. I can guarantee that Yamaha cut corners to improve profit margins, and the result is compromised "low"-impedance drive capacity. (To me, a nominal 4-ohm load doesn't really qualify as "low impedance", when 4-ohm nominal impedance has become hugely popular in the speaker world. <2 ohm nominal is "low" impedance.)

Ahh bummer..
I retract my last statement