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Scott Copley 203 Console

markshan

Sir Thrift a Lot
It's all you guys fault.

I went to Goodwill today and looked in a console stereo that was sitting there. I have looked for old stereo gear at thrifts for probably five years now, but until I found AK (IIRC I found this place Googling for info on one of my scores) I never would have looked in the direction on a console. They were geeky old things that grandparents used. But once I read here that somebody looked in an old console and it was loaded with McIntosh gear. So now I look in old consoles.

Up until now I have never found anything that has dissuaded me from my initial notion. Today, I saw one and opened the lid. On the inside of the lid was a badge that says "Copley 203". I look down and see an HH Scott receiver and a Dual 1019 turntable. I close the lid again to look at the tag. $10. So I turn it on.

The first thing I notice is that the table is stuck in the "start" position. No biggie I suspect. The Dual sled thingy is also missing (probably it and the cart were stolen as this sat on the floor of the thrift is my guess based on the pristine condition of the cabinet). The next thing I notice is only one channel is making sound. So I try the balance control and it is completely frozen. Then I get a radio station on the one channel and start to turn it up. Once the volume hits a certain level it starts a loud, low frequency hum that drowns out any other sound. At this point I'm starting to think it is more effort than it is worth.

So I begin debating in my mind if I want another project and I decide to pull it away from the wall and check the back for more info. The speaker sections are sealed boxes, so no help there. The panel behind the receiver is open and reveals tubes. Okay, $10 for an HH Scott tube model is worth the ten spot and the project time. So I take the tag up front and pay for it. As the cashier and I walk back to put the "sold" sign on it, she walks right past it. I tell her it's that thing with the bungees around the front doors. She says she thought it was a dresser. We both then wonder what is behind those doors. So I open it up and it is a Sony reel to reel, at a glance apparently never used and still wrapped with cellophane around the controls and the heads. Yes, this was worth $10.

I was in my work car and had to leave it there. Now I have to get it home and figure out how to proceed.
 
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Lots of decisions. Do I flip it because I don't have room for a console, do I keep it as is in my garage (seems a waste from the furniture aspect) or do I remove the parts and junk the cabinet?

I've always wanted a stereo tube receiver and if the r2r is good that will certainly be put to use as well. First to get it home. I'm worried that somebody is stealing knobs from it as we speak.
 
Well sure I knew it was coming, but the thing is still at the Goodwill. Pictures to follow I promise.
 
whatever you do with it, its sure to have a better fate than sitting at Goodwill until it hits the dumpster. I like consoles, so I can't in good conscience tell you to scrap it unless its just an eyesore or already trashed, but at a minimum, save the guts out of it. If it had a Dual changer, an HH Scott reciever, and a Sony R2R, I'll pretty much guarantee whatever speakers are in it are not garbage. Even needing some work, thats a hell of a score for 10 bucks.
 
That's actually (in my mind) one of the problems. I actually wish the cabinet was beat to heck so that I could easily justify busting it up. But it's not. It's actually quite beautiful. I just don't have room for it.

You don't think it may have Tannoy Reds in it, do you? ;)
 
Some of those Scott consoles have hybrid amps...tube front end, preamp & drivers with solid state outputs.
 
I had heard that. I'm not sure how to identify it as such, so I'm guessing one of the experts here can tell me once I get to post nudies.
 
Here's a twist I didn't expect.

I had an hour to pick it up today before work (so no pics yet) and went to the Goodwill. When we moved it a 12AX7A dropped out (I guess that could be why only one channel was working). I got it home and was unloading it into the garage with a friend when my wife looks at it and says "that doesn't look like junk from the thrift. It is really nice, I think you should get it running and we can put it in the dining room and use it there."

I have a great wife!
 
I found an envelope full of documents and this was among them. It looks like it probably was stapled to the cabinet at one time. If I am reading it right it looks like my receiver is in fact a tube pre and tranny power stage. Does anyone here have experience with these units? Is the sound going to be close to an all tube version? Is it anything special at all? Thanks.
 

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So if it is 40 WPC EIA, that is roughly 32 WPC or so RMS, right? That's about the same as my Marantz 2230. Seems not to shabby for a console.
 
Ya it's a Solid State power amp. Happened to me a few weeks back except my truck lost it's engine on the way home.

All I got was one measly 12AX7.

Damn "Q"s
 
Where are those photos that you promised? :)

Probably Saturday. It's in my jam packed, underlit garage right now so I plan on taking many photos when I pull the receiver. I'll have to move it out to the driveway to have room to work. This was an unplanned purchase.
 
"Q" indicates the transistors on the schematic.
Not necessarily a bad thing. I used to like my SS stuff too,
until I got into tubes last fall. No turning back now! I'm a believer.
IMHO tubes are tits.
 
It sounds like you have a very nice find. The solid state output may not be such a bad thing. The alternative would probably have been 7591 tubes that are expensive. I own and have used both tube and solid state H H Scott equipment. I like the early solid state Scott's. In my house, the solid state is what I use and the tubes are stored away somewhere. I look forward to seeing the pictures. :yes:
 
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