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A $9200 receiver? Really?

GChief said:
The presence of possible Conspiracies is alive and well on any subject discussed on AK ;)
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Yes I suppose so and there is little doubt that Ebay or some other company will do whatever they can legally to increase their profit margins but considering the profits on final sales of monster receivers and other large items if sold to the highest bidder regardless of location would be much higher then 10% of $100.00 which is what Zinda said he paid or less for shipping it makes no sense.

GChief said:
Yeah, I thought that was an odd thing to bring up on an audio site.

:rflmao::rflmao::rflmao:
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Remember we cant compare cars and receivers according to Zinda or perhaps only he can.


RegardsSnow
 
Mingo said:
With unlimited funds, I would be going after vintage cars and receivers!



Realistic receivers don't bring the prices of vintage Pioneer, Sansui, Marantz receivers...yet.

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Sold a good condition (in general, not just for age) pair of Pioneers CS99a speakers with very minor hair scratches, not on eBay, a few days ago for $1500, I thought that to be a bit pricy.
But the BIG surprise was selling the very good condition (again, not just for age) Pioneer SX-780 for $1200, not on eBay. That I don't understand.
The buyer traveled a few hundred miles.
 
Ziinda said:
Come on be realistic, there's way more car collectors than stereo receiver collectors. This site proves that, go check out some car sites and see how many a give there are. One major difference is repairing cars can be done by most owners where audio repair is something that is becoming a rare task. People are connected to cars because of this, a broken the receiver is rarely ever considered for repair by the general population
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you have no idea, there are exponentially more bicycle collectors than car collectors. I belong to a bicycle forum that makes AK look like a ghost town. some members have 10's of thousands of bikes in their collections.

now "that's realistic"
 
Ziinda said:
Wonder how many home receivers he has collected, I don't think you can compare cars from the 60s and 70s to receivers, it a completely different thing and I'm willing to bet that most guys (given unlimited funds) will be thinking about what old car they would buy over what old receiver they would buy.



So you're considering buying it since it's obviously worth more?
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I don't buy receivers, never have, unless for someone else.
 
Grenadeslio said:
I don't buy receivers, never have, unless for someone else.
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I can’t say I haven’t. But my last receiver for 2ch Muzak listening was 1983 when I was 18yrs old. The other two since where a Pioneer Elite AVR in the mid 90’s (because it sounded better than the rest I tried 2ch) and the Onkyo that replaced it to have HDMI. Haven’t had the Onkyo since 2012. Still had separates for music set up in another room.
 
INSANE. They are cool and all, but I'd never pay more than $300-400 for any vintage, solid-state receiver. Maybe a bit more for a tube unit like an old Fisher, Scott, even Heathkit (I had the SA-2 and liked it). That's just me though, I get wanting what you couldn't afford as a youth.

I'd take my Accuphase at the $1500-2k mark (used price), any day of the week.

Good for these people though who are "selling high!"
 
KT88Lvr said:
Hmmm can 9200 buy the lust/desire I felt when I first saw that thing in the late 70's/early 80's and settled on a sx780 - with my paper route salary?.... I don't think so. The moment has passed.
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That was my experience as well. I wanted that model but would have been OK with a 1280. In the end, I went with a 780, which I guess wasn't bad for a 12-13 YO on a grass mowing salary!
 
Grenadeslio said:
you have no idea, there are exponentially more bicycle collectors than car collectors. I belong to a bicycle forum that makes AK look like a ghost town. some members have 10's of thousands of bikes in their collections.

now "that's realistic"
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What is unrealistic is that he can compare car collectors to Audio collectors but we cant, there is likely far more coin and stamp collectors then Bicycle collectors also. I know it is hard to understand to a lot of audiophiles that the monster receivers are worth more then their amps and preamps and they don't get why because to them the quality of the music is the most important thing but to a collector it may well not be, people who collect the old bicycles with the small and giant wheels are not paying thousands for them because they perform better then the latest greatest offering from Pinarello or some other well known company, they are buying them to fill out or complete their collection.

Regards Snow
 
Snow said:
What is unrealistic is that he can compare car collectors to Audio collectors but we cant, there is likely far more coin and stamp collectors then Bicycle collectors also. I know it is hard to understand to a lot of audiophiles that the monster receivers are worth more then their amps and preamps and they don't get why because to them the quality of the music is the most important thing but to a collector it may well not be, people who collect the old bicycles with the small and giant wheels are not paying thousands for them because they perform better then the latest greatest offering from Pinarello or some other well known company, they are buying them to fill out or complete their collection.

Regards Snow
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Agree. Being a car collector, unless your yard looks like a salvage lot, requires a certain level of infrastructure and funding that isn't required to be a bicycle collector (or hifi collector for that matter). On the other hand, there are a lot of people who are buying vintage/collectible cars and only have one or two.

That said, I'm willing to bet the price trajectory on vintage audio mirrors collectible cars more closely than collectible bikes. I could be wrong.
 
PabloX said:
Agree. Being a car collector, unless your yard looks like a salvage lot, requires a certain level of infrastructure and funding that isn't required to be a bicycle collector (or hifi collector for that matter). On the other hand, there are a lot of people who are buying vintage/collectible cars and only have one or two.

That said, I'm willing to bet the price trajectory on vintage audio mirrors collectible cars more closely than collectible bikes. I could be wrong.
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I believe the trick to making money if that is your goal in collecting is to buy items when they are at their lowest but almost certainly will appreciate over time, my first vehicle was a 1948 chevy truck it had a 6 cylinder engine 4 speed transmission no power windows or brakes in fact it barely had any brakes at all it had the wrap around windows in the back. I paid $200.00 for it back when I was making a whopping $2.00 per hour likely only a $1.50 per hour after all deductions top speed was maybe 50 miles an hour it was so low geared. Back then I could have bought almost any used car or truck made in the USA for 2k or less. Today any of the muscle cars from the 50's 60's 70's if complete and not all rusted out are worth thousands many of them tens or hundreds of thousands.

If a fellow was young and smart he would look for what will be collectable in 40-50 years and start buying and hoarding those cars or electronics or bicycles or what have you now when they are cheap because if history repeats itself you would be a very wealthy man when you reach retirement age.


Regards Snow
 
Ziinda said:
But it was mint and worked perfect, you'd expect to get some reactions from buyers, had tons of views but it took me relisting it every other day for a few weeks before the right guy saw it
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"before the right guy saw it"....you just explained the reason for the high asking price......what's the old saying, run it up the flagpole and someone will salute it?........priced too high, come down....too low, nowhere to go!
 
The newish "Muscle Bike" genre saw old rusty frames of girls spider bikes fetching insane money.

Wish I still had my SCREAMER bike, or maybe a PEA PICKER, ORANGE KRATE, LEMON PEEL, etc.

Last time I saw a SCREAMER come up for sale it was around $3500, I paid $72 for mine in 1969 at 12yrs old, almost 50X it's original price.

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Grenadeslio said:
The newish "Muscle Bike" genre saw old rusty frames of girls spider bikes fetching insane money.

Wish I still had my SCREAMER bike, or maybe a PEA PICKER, ORANGE KRATE, LEMON PEEL, etc.

Last time I saw a SCREAMER come up for sale it was around $3500, I paid $72 for mine in 1969 at 12yrs old, almost 50X it's original price.

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I had no idea that those types of bikes were worth anything, there is some guy about 10 miles from me his yard what I can see at least has hundreds of bikes maybe thousands I dunno but lots of them, it might be worth my time to get knowed up on some of the best sellers and then go take a look and see if he is willing to sell some, no idea if will or not it has been my experience that a lot of collector /hoarder types don't want to part with anything.

Hard to believe but my very first bike had solid hard rubber tires that were flat not round on the bottom talk about a rough ride but it was free and it was freedom :D
 
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David_NC said:
That was my experience as well. I wanted that model but would have been OK with a 1280. In the end, I went with a 780, which I guess wasn't bad for a 12-13 YO on a grass mowing salary!
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Still to this day I think the SX780 is the most beautiful. I bought a 650 a few years back - nice - but I should have just got another 780.
 
KT88Lvr said:
Still to this day I think the SX780 is the most beautiful. I bought a 650 a few years back - nice - but I should have just got another 780.
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I bought an SX-1050 back in college in '86 to replace the 780. I gotta say, the 1050 was a lot better to me. I'd compare them, but the 1050 needs work; last time I checked, the 780 was still working fine. I'll have to give it a listen at some point.
 
After reading nine pages so far, I've really only learned a bit more about vintage bikes and eBay conspiracy theories. So for informational value this thread gets a 3.5/10, but for entertainment value it jumps to 5/10. However, over time these values are VERY LIKELY to increase just like a top 3 monster receiver!
 
Ziinda said:
Sold a Kenwood KA-3500 yesterday for $100 (offer accepted) with a Kenwood digital tuner, it took 5 months to sell not 1 offer at $150 it was mintView attachment 2538389
It's not all in demand everywhere, at least not around me!
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The trendy stuff is off the charts right now. Classic JBL, Marantz, desirable Sansui models, big Pioneer, nice RTR; all these are going for prices I've never seen before. Lesser pieces, less trendy brands, not so much.
 
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