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A tuner, in this day and age?

Let it be known I have a smartphone too and I actually listen to this one AM radio station on it, on its internet stream -- but only when I don't have reception...

Honestly I think all this streaming crap (video or audio) is a waste of internet bandwidth (unless multicasting is used... which is what radio is!) I guess it's because everyone is self important and wants the stream start when they want it...

Waste of bandwidth? Are we supposed to be saving it?
 
I don't care about the receiver on my Onkyo TX-NR709 I have never used it. For receivers my favorite is my Collins R388/URR which is a Milspec version of the 51J3. I like it because it has a 4 ohm speaker impedance, no hard to get tubes, crystal filters with a phase control that acts like a notch filter. It uses the Collins PTO for tuning and the Collins slug rack for band switching. It also has the best vernier tuning scale of any radio ever built.
 
Put me down as one who has had a lifetime of enjoying turning the tuning knob and watching the pointer glide down the scale, and seeing the meters come to life with each station. Not only that, there's an element of mystery to the process, something that's not there with streaming, where you go to a specific station. Going across the analog dial is more of an adventure.

Just an opinion...
 
:thmbsp: very well put. :yes:


Put me down as one who has had a lifetime of enjoying turning the tuning knob and watching the pointer glide down the scale, and seeing the meters come to life with each station. Not only that, there's an element of mystery to the process, something that's not there with streaming, where you go to a specific station. Going across the analog dial is more of an adventure.

Just an opinion...
 
Yes, over the net the best most stations will stream at is 128k mp3, a few will go to 196 and one or two go to 320k (talking about fm stations that have an internet stream). listening in on an FM tuner will give you the best fidelity besides playing your own cds, vinyl or flac files. Plus with community radio you get DJs curating the music and opportunities to get exposed to stuff your not going to on your own. I like comming home from work turning on the fm and having someone else pick the music. Friday nights on KXLU, Sunday nights on KPFK, M, W, Fri nights on KISL, Sundays on KCSN cant be beat for the programming and the fideliity

Thank you for this informative response. I apologize if the turn of phrase used in my OP sounded insincere. I was honestly trying to find out if there is a legitimate reason to favor a tuner over the stream, and the post quoted above helps me. It's sad that it took 5 pages of knee-jerking to get to it.
 
I notice my old standby TV set is useless now.

Ludite...Maybe not so...I have made a Digital Antenna from a Tanqueray Tin and it Picks Up all the Local stations plus a lot more...My set has a Digital Ant. Input, but if yours does not, all you need is a $20 Conversion Box...[/QUOTE]

Conversion boxes are getting thin on the ground already and aren't going for $20 any more. I went on a hunt for one last Fall for a TV in my life's sewing room and found only one shop in town that had them for sale and they had a total of three units left when I got there. You can still buy them online, but for 2-4 times the quoted price.
 
Waste of bandwidth? Are we supposed to be saving it?
This is getting off topic and a bit of soapboxing but yes, it's idiotic to be sending multiple copies out of the same stream. Because of this massive usage of bandwidth, stuff like net neutrality is being hurt to save money for the network companies (or make money for them by extorting them). My desire is simply to preserve network neutrality over sending the same thing over and over again... So be it if someone wants to use the bandwidth to send the same thing over and over again.

Deeper issues than just 'wasting bandwidth' here...
 

CT-600 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

The CT-600 innards, more visible. Still lots of air, but a 4 gang FM tuning cap and 3 gang AM. The CT-610II was the same level as the CT-600 in the Yamaha component line (one up from the bottom, in the US), but one model year later - and considerably chintzier (as previously illustrated).

Yeah, the CT-800 and CT-1010 are pretty nice; both are inexpensive, too; not in much demand. Not bad choices for a tuner if one has the space for their bulk.

FWIW, here's the guts of the CT-1010; at least there's some stuff inside...


DSCN6032 by mhardy6647, on Flickr


yamaharack 012414 by mhardy6647, on Flickr
Nice Yamaha collection!:thmbsp:
 
Thanks. ... besides showing off :-P I wanted to illustrate that I know whereof I speak, Yamaha-wise. Not the higher-end stuff/separate components, but the massmarket stuff. That, I've gotta handle on ;-)
 
I have friends who come into our local watering hole and, instead of sitting and slowly getting drunk and talking to each other, like the old days, they sit and slowly get drunk and play with their "smart" phones. It's sad.

I AM impressed with the apps. that can recognize a song by just a short bit of it.

I listen to a Heathkit AJ-29 every day.

Doug
 
Exactly...

Apps like Shazam actually enhance the FM experience, in that you can often retrieve the name of a piece of music you're hearing w/o having to wait for the DJ to mention it, which seems to never happen when you actually want it to.

John
 
I have excellent streaming via my cable connection to wi/Fi and my Grace wireless tuners. The sound is really amazing. Right now I'm in my recliner in my living room listening to Pandora. My current station is "Windam Hill" which by various likes and dislike picks has become exactly what I like to listen to at this hour. HOWEVER, on FM there are a few stations that are great to listen to and I'll listen there also. On FM I get to hear not only music but also "connect" with the gal or guy in the booth. It may be a dark and stormy night with gale winds blowing in from the beach a mile away. Hearing the person say "golly, it is REALLY blowing out there tonight" makes me feel that I 'm not alone in the world. And THAT is why I still listen to FM.:D
 
I grew up listening to FM in the 60's. Dam shame one has to get the same music and programs off the net now. In DC we had great Fm stations and variety, all gone now. Still keep my Fisher tuner though..
 
I grew up listening to FM in the 60's. Damn shame one has to get the same music and programs off the net now. In DC we had great Fm stations and variety, all gone now. Still keep my Fisher tuner though..

Agreed - I keep a couple tuners for occasional use,
but the stations I knew and loved have all drifted away ...
DC radio in the 60s and 70s ... I miss it!

.. let the airwaves ... flow ...
 
If any of you have "several" tuners or receivers and worry about the future of FM, the idea of having your own FM Transmitter, as mentioned earlier, is a great idea.

I'm lucky to have several local FM stations nearby but for the last few years I've been wifi-ing via iPad>dock>DAC>FM Transmitter>whatever tuner or receiver I choose to use. Doing this frees you up to not having to live near an FM station let alone one that plays the music you like and a bonus...no commercials.

Yesterday I was listening to "Audiophile Baroque" out of Greece and today it's some Jazz thru MOG with some 40 year old tuners/receivers.

So " A tuner, in this day and age?"...For me, absolutely.
 
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My Rotel RT 1024 is idle. Yes, I could get an antenna, but when the local cable company canned cable FM (to allow for more internet bandwidth) I lost a lot of good stations. Moreover, and they don't tell you this, but cable FM has virtually no distortion due to no multipath, interference...... lost some good jazz, classical stations. End of an era for me. I don't listen to it all despite the quality of the signal.
 
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