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ADS-910's

Blue Shadow said:
Now that one poster, a porkloin, no less, has stated he prefers a pair of hot rodded ESS AMT3 (about 870/pr) speakers to his newly refinished L780/2 (about 700/pr), I'm wondering if the ADS top models the 910, 2030 and 1590s are really that good. There is a post here in speakers looking for the best under $1000 speaker (2030 need not apply) that won't need a sub or a super tweeter and there isn't a single mention of the ADS. Maybe they are not all that. Other than the AR-3a the op in that thread has there are mentions of the following:
Magnepan
Martin Logan
Acoustat
Vandersteen
Thiel CS3.5/3.6
Horn Shoppe Horns
Infinity Kappa 9 or RS II
Old Snells.
Ohm Walsh 4
NHT 2.9/3.3
b&w DM/8xx
AR-9LSi
KEF R107
Polk SDA SRS
A number of VMPS
Mcintosh ML-1c,
yes there is always a McIntosh loyalist throwing out a contender but the rest seem like viable candidates. Not that the McIntosh isn't, it is just not a brand of speakers I see mentioned all the time. Glenn, this post is in your thread because you have been waving the L910 flag so vigorously for so long, 700 posts, that I believe it has kept you from seeing that other thread (posted in Sept but still current) and making a response or you have a better under 1k speaker that does it all. Curious. How good are these ADS if they can't crack that thread. This is a nice list, I know 11 of them deserve being on the list, having heard a number of those but don't know about some of them.
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"A PORKLOIN, NO LESS"?? Need I remind you that this hobby owes all that it is to the great pig? Our founding fathers grew taller than their cousins back in London due to the large plots of land that enabled them to grow lots of pigs for the loins to eat on Christmas. That great protein intake also made for good big brains that put together a system that resulted in everyone having disposable income to sink into Hi-Fi.
Mmmmmmm......Pooooooooork - Loooooinnnnnn.........
Actually, my post was an extension of an earlier post from Liteagillis in which he compared 910's to a pair of what I assumed to be ESS pyramid two ways. I just wanted to throw my two cents in about the AMT -vs- the sticky domes. I'm still a big fan of ADS speakers overall and think that the sticky dome midrange is one of the nicer drivers out there.
I'm not sure why the 910's wouldn't be on a list of speakers that didn't need a subwoofer or supertweeter - they extend well below the bulk of the available source material and above the hearing of the youngest human ears out there. I get the feeling that too many in this hobby have their proclivities handed to them by manufacturer white papers and the puff pieces in Stereophile magazine.
 
Blue Shadow said:
Now that one poster, a porkloin, no less, has stated he prefers a pair of hot rodded ESS AMT3 (about 870/pr) speakers to his newly refinished L780/2 (about 700/pr), I'm wondering if the ADS top models the 910, 2030 and 1590s are really that good. There is a post here in speakers looking for the best under $1000 speaker (2030 need not apply) that won't need a sub or a super tweeter and there isn't a single mention of the ADS. Maybe they are not all that. Other than the AR-3a the op in that thread has there are mentions of the following:
Magnepan
Martin Logan
Acoustat
Vandersteen
Thiel CS3.5/3.6
Horn Shoppe Horns
Infinity Kappa 9 or RS II
Old Snells.
Ohm Walsh 4
NHT 2.9/3.3
b&w DM/8xx
AR-9LSi
KEF R107
Polk SDA SRS
A number of VMPS
Mcintosh ML-1c,
yes there is always a McIntosh loyalist throwing out a contender but the rest seem like viable candidates. Not that the McIntosh isn't, it is just not a brand of speakers I see mentioned all the time. Glenn, this post is in your thread because you have been waving the L910 flag so vigorously for so long, 700 posts, that I believe it has kept you from seeing that other thread (posted in Sept but still current) and making a response or you have a better under 1k speaker that does it all. Curious. How good are these ADS if they can't crack that thread. This is a nice list, I know 11 of them deserve being on the list, having heard a number of those but don't know about some of them.
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Thanks for the FYI regarding the thread mentioned. I'll take a look and see if I can comment. The listed speakers I have not heard except for the Maggie's and a set of ohm's and high end ML's at the NY Audio show, so I can only have an opinion of the 910's compared to my current herd and the few I've heard elseware.
Happy holidays!
 
Porkloin said:
"A PORKLOIN, NO LESS"?? ...that enabled them to grow lots of pigs for the loins to eat on Christmas.
Mmmmmmm......Pooooooooork - Loooooinnnnnn.........
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That is just not right. Porkloin for Christmas. Nope, Pernil all the way. Can't get much better than a properly cooked pernil for the holidays.
 
Blue Shadow said:
That is just not right. Porkloin for Christmas. Nope, Pernil all the way. Can't get much better than a properly cooked pernil for the holidays.
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I haven't had the opportunity to do a Pernil roast yet. So many photos look like they have that pulled pork texture that I can't stand, that I'm a bit skittish.
 
Blue Shadow said:
There is a post here in speakers looking for the best under $1000 speaker (2030 need not apply) that won't need a sub or a super tweeter and there isn't a single mention of the ADS. Maybe they are not all that.
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Speakers That Don't Need Mods to Sound Great was the name of the thread that you're referring to. Motorstereo fielded the first response with his 1530's. There were 5 more responders voting for ADS models after that. I think no other brand had more votes cast.
I think memory lapse is one of the first symptoms of trichinosis as bought on by questionable pork.
 
Back in my youth, I remember hearing Ohm Walshes and a pair of ESS with the Heil and being impressed. If I had stumbled upon either of those speakers on Craigslist instead of the 910s I would probably be singing their praises. Of my limited collection, the 910s are the winner.

The magnepans are really cool in that they produce a nice wide image but they do not have the sparkle at the upper end, and really do not have a bass that can hit you in the chest. Magnepan bass is there, you can hear it, but it does not pummel you like the 910s. I like being pummeled as I listen to mostly classic rock and reggae. My magnepans do not have the ribbon tweeter, and that may make a big difference.

The Dahlquists are like magic in how they sound, phenomenal imaging and sparkle at the upper end, very airy, but again they have no bass. Using them with the sub works well. But still. the 910s can do it all, and do it effortlessly.
 
Aptone said:
The magnepans are really cool ... do not have a bass that can hit you in the chest...My magnepans do not have the ribbon tweeter, and that may make a big difference.
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For the highs it sure is. The ribbon is magic. Same with electrostatic speakers but all are tradeoffs.
 
well if no one has, makes me wonder if they are all that. Sure the L1590/2 are my current installed speakers but the Magneplanars are itching for some play time and the Double Dahlquists were just in the main rig. I see these speakers, all of them for under a grand and they do have different sonic characteristics. Mark likes the ADS best because he is a rocker to some degree. Mike thinks they are a bit soft (smooth) and prefers a bit more on the top (he has RAAL Ribbons in his speakers) and me, I'm glad I have choices, just wish I had folks to swap em out for me or a room big enough to set em all up properly and just turn the chair to change the main speakers, well and press a button on the OC-150a to select the other sets. But to have that thread roll through AK for three months and not one ADS post, makes ya wonder.
 
Think i finally have the 80's system the way I want it.

PV3, HK Citation 22 and the Sonographe TT. I'll try out the Pink Triangle this week.

The solid state just moves the woofers better than my lower powered tube gear. Now the quest starts to find a pair of led's for the crossovers.
 

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liteagilis said:
Think i finally have the 80's system the way I want it.

PV3, HK Citation 22 and the Sonographe TT. I'll try out the Pink Triangle this week.

The solid state just moves the woofers better than my lower powered tube gear. Now the quest starts to find a pair of led's for the crossovers.
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There's a guy in Canada that sells the LEDs. I posted his info earlier in the thread. I also bought the bi and tri amp cards.
 
GD70 said:
There's a guy in Canada that sells the LEDs. I posted his info earlier in the thread. I also bought the bi and tri amp cards.
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Yes indeed, I just ordered the cards and LEDs (even if the LEDs introduce distortion, I just couldn't help myself -- I can see using the biamp card in the future, however).
 
I just wrote to the Canadian company selling the cards and LED's. Can't take the peer pressure. Is it kosher to ask the purchase price here in this thread? Otherwise I'll wait until they respond. I'm mainly interested in the biamp card since it will have the most practical value for me but if the price isn't too high I'll probably buy the whole set just to have them with the speakers.
John
 
acy76 said:
Yes indeed, I just ordered the cards and LEDs (even if the LEDs introduce distortion, I just couldn't help myself -- I can see using the biamp card in the future, however).
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I understand that and have read about better sound without the LEDs dancing. But one has to have all the options, good or bad.

Sure its fine to ask about the price of these parts in this thread. It is not a value discussion, just price point from something from a vendor and no link to an active sale...
 
Happy New Year everybody!
Well today started off with an ADS bang! My neighbor came over for an hour this morning to hear my newly restored AR3's, which he thought sounded great!
"Ok, let's hear some of the other speakers". Ok, I fire up the system and light up the 910's. "Damn! These are on a whole different level he says! Incredible imaging, depth, great controlled beep bass!" We listened to vinyl and digital tracks. Now, he's got some nice gear including a Conrad Johnson tube pre, an Onkyo amp, and a set of KEF's, and big JBLs. When he left, he said, man, you have me thinking I need to reevaluate my system, and look for some 910's!
Cheers!
 
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