GD70
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Yes, they really benefit and come alive with power, the more the better!
ADS-910's
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Funny how TOTL speakers from almost any era can do that.
GD70
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Yeah, right? My neighbor is an audiophile for sure. He's a Metalergist, smart dude, does research at IBM. He rewound one of his JBL's tweeter VC's because it had blown some years back. He also use to build amps from kits back in England when he was a kid, they proved unreliable, and designed and built his own!
So, we'll see where this leads. Saw his wife later that day at a neighborhood party, said all he talked about was how good my systems sounded and especially the "Big" speakers as she put it!
Porkloin
Oscar Heil Groupie
Man, you better not let any of those guys come over to my place. The ensuing self doubt would cause a surge in my Zoloft stock.
I do understand the "fear" factor you mention. LOL have listened extensivly to the 910 at a friend's house but just picked up a pair of 1590/2 and am totally impressed with them. My friend wit the 910 says the 1590 series i's the only speakers he would replace the 910''s with and I agree.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
1590/2 nice, but not going to get a 730 post thread viewed over 20,000 times without Glenn's perseverance behind the thread, keeping it current. Is there any other evidence that the 1590 is more than the equal to the 910? Don't see many talk to the differences because most have heard one of the other.
They are different. The 1530 (and 2030) were a departure from the x10 and x80 and x90 series box design, I think the xx90 models were the first step into a more modern speaker design and thus is a bit more refined with many of the same ingredients as the 910. The 910 seems to provide more bass overall, but the 1590 is capable of doing so as well.
I am listening to the 910's right now and they are wonderful. I do put my 1590's just a slight notch above. An analogy I would use would be if they were boxers, the 910 would be Mike Tyson. The 1590 would be Muhammad Ali.
Seems to me Michael Kelly then continued the evolution of the ADS 1590 with his Aerial Acoustics line.
A guy that was listening to these 910's last week has Polk Monitor 10's with about every upgrade you can imagine and he felt the 910's are at an entirely other level.
Tom Tyson has a thread over at Classic Speaker Pages on his thoughts and history with the 1590's that is a very good read. His impression was the compared favorably with the AR9's. He just sold his. In the ADS section.
I am listening to the 910's right now and they are wonderful. I do put my 1590's just a slight notch above. An analogy I would use would be if they were boxers, the 910 would be Mike Tyson. The 1590 would be Muhammad Ali.
Seems to me Michael Kelly then continued the evolution of the ADS 1590 with his Aerial Acoustics line.
A guy that was listening to these 910's last week has Polk Monitor 10's with about every upgrade you can imagine and he felt the 910's are at an entirely other level.
Tom Tyson has a thread over at Classic Speaker Pages on his thoughts and history with the 1590's that is a very good read. His impression was the compared favorably with the AR9's. He just sold his. In the ADS section.
GD70
Lunatic Member
I heard some of the industries best TOTL speakers at the NY Audio Show, incredible gear, 50K systems.
The next morning, while it was fresh in my mind, I sat down in front of my system, listened to it at the same volumes as I heard the day before, even some of the same tracks, and it sounded just as good as a lot of them. Would I love one of those systems, he'll yeah! Could I afford it, hell no!
It was extremely satisfying that my gear sounds great at a fraction of the cost, like many of our systems we worked hard to put together. If I can inspire someone to take a look at their system, and want to improve it some way, then I had a great day, just like when I have a great day because of something someone here inspired me to keep an eye out for.
GD70
Lunatic Member
I heard the Polks at a Frankenfest, and they were really great, but agree, the 910's are at another level.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Problem with the audio shows is the limits of the room. A local store, I heard a pair of speakers that has a great sound, imaging well outside and above the speaker. I was driven by electronics that were more than those 50k systems. Heck the speaker wire wouldn't have been included at that price. Glad my systems sound good but I understand those that want the new good stuff.
GD70
Lunatic Member
Love that room Will! Elegant is an under statement!
Porkloin
Oscar Heil Groupie
Thanks Glenn. I attribute it all to the former Mrs. Porkloin. Part of the reason men get married is so that they don't spend their entire lives living in a steelhead shack along side the river.
MJB1959
Super Member
In some previous posts, I recall someone from the ads company mentioning that the column ADS L1290 was a repackaged L810. Could it be that the L1090 were the new L710, And the 1590 became the new L910? Just speculating here but the column/tower design keeps the driver alignment linear and just might improve imaging for some listening environments, and the slender build would ultimately become a standard in speakers design.
However, the next-generation of ADS speakers would see a return to the box design, with the "80" designs. The L780/880/980. were all 3 driver 3 way designs, and packaged in smaller cabinets than the dual woofer 1st generation design. I can speak towards the 880 and 980 as an owner, and they sound absolutely beautiful. With no need for a complimentary subwoofer.
Of course the 1230/1530/2030 were the more radical design changes cabinet wise. I have spent many hours in front of 810/910/980/1230/620/m12/400/ and have always loved the way they all deliver a consistently enjoyable experience. And yes, I also have delved into the world of JBL/altec/kef/paradigm/snell/vandersteen/infinity and then some. But the ADS just happens to be the right sounding speaker for my little world.
I have to applaud Glen for his fine work and passion for this seemingly endless thread about a speaker that changed his world. Having had many ADS models i fully understand why he feels that way.
However, the next-generation of ADS speakers would see a return to the box design, with the "80" designs. The L780/880/980. were all 3 driver 3 way designs, and packaged in smaller cabinets than the dual woofer 1st generation design. I can speak towards the 880 and 980 as an owner, and they sound absolutely beautiful. With no need for a complimentary subwoofer.
Of course the 1230/1530/2030 were the more radical design changes cabinet wise. I have spent many hours in front of 810/910/980/1230/620/m12/400/ and have always loved the way they all deliver a consistently enjoyable experience. And yes, I also have delved into the world of JBL/altec/kef/paradigm/snell/vandersteen/infinity and then some. But the ADS just happens to be the right sounding speaker for my little world.
I have to applaud Glen for his fine work and passion for this seemingly endless thread about a speaker that changed his world. Having had many ADS models i fully understand why he feels that way.
Porkloin
Oscar Heil Groupie
I actually prefer the lower end of my 780's over my buddy's 710's. ADS did a good job with that newer woofer. I wonder how the 980's would stack up against the 910's?
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
The 980 is sought after.
there are differences in drivers between the 10s and the 90s. that would mean crossover changes and this means that although they may have the corporate culture of dual woofers that might be the end of the similarity. But I can see them talking in the projects room, "let's make some dual woofer columns, what do we have available to put in them." Answer was not much so all new drivers were made for them as was common for most ADS speakers. The 810 and 1230 share woofers and many models share some tweeters and mids.
there are differences in drivers between the 10s and the 90s. that would mean crossover changes and this means that although they may have the corporate culture of dual woofers that might be the end of the similarity. But I can see them talking in the projects room, "let's make some dual woofer columns, what do we have available to put in them." Answer was not much so all new drivers were made for them as was common for most ADS speakers. The 810 and 1230 share woofers and many models share some tweeters and mids.
MJB1959
Super Member
That doesn't surprise me to read that, the brand seemed to be transitioning into more technical advancements in material improvements and crossover design around this time, there are actual Freq Response figures available for all the models, and of course they are always somewhat of a guessing game as to what those numbers actually "sound" like: here is an example:
L 910 specs.
28-20,000 Hz(3db)
18-25,000 (5db)
4 ohms
6 ohm typical
150w rms
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980 specs
Freq Resp 37 - 27000 Hz 3db
8 ohms nom.
1-19mm 0.075 woven soft dome, wet wound,
64 lbs
Crossovers 450hz and 5000hz high efficiency tight tolerance design with 12db/octave slopes
Tweeter Level control o and -1.5 db.
Biampable terminals
15.1" wide x 26.8" high x 13.2 deep
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MJB1959
Super Member
As I sit here listening to Marcus Miller - Renaissance (2012) FLAC through my new Cambridge amp, and the L980/880 stacked with a forward lean on the top 880's, I am immersed in a soundfield that is all encompassing.Anyone not familiar with Marcus Miller, he is an outstanding bassist, played with Miles Davis, and produced a ton of other peoples music, he is a bass heavy jazz funk specialist of the highest order, he plays a mean bass clarinet.his music is perfectly made for the ADS sound!
And, yes, I could stay here all day if I didn't need to go eat, sleep, pee and poop. Or let those pesky German Shepherds out for walks and stuff.
I bought that amp at a local higher end audio store recently, and the saleman who was in his 40's, never heard of ADS speakers, or Braun for that matter. Not surprised, he did however let me audition some of the on floor speakers they were selling. Golden Ear, KEF, Paradigm, etc, through a variety of amps and devices, and like Glen, I loved the way many of them sounded, but really felt no need to upgrade anything here at home, well, except for that amp, which really was a nice addition with the DAC and dual mono design.
And, yes, I could stay here all day if I didn't need to go eat, sleep, pee and poop. Or let those pesky German Shepherds out for walks and stuff.
I bought that amp at a local higher end audio store recently, and the saleman who was in his 40's, never heard of ADS speakers, or Braun for that matter. Not surprised, he did however let me audition some of the on floor speakers they were selling. Golden Ear, KEF, Paradigm, etc, through a variety of amps and devices, and like Glen, I loved the way many of them sounded, but really felt no need to upgrade anything here at home, well, except for that amp, which really was a nice addition with the DAC and dual mono design.
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GD70
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Your description sounds heavenly! That pair stacked must be very impressive!
I'll have to check out Marcus Miller! Thanks for enlightening us!
Glenn
I have some unmodified Polk Monitor 10s. If the 910s are like Mike Tyson, then the Monitor 10s are like Pee Wee Herman. A pair of 4.5" mid/bass cones are in a different weight class from twin 10" woofers.