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will d
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I think it was round a $grand, cause the waf was really pissed that I was spending (in her words) THAT KIND OF MONEY? Yes honey. Will D.Well if Glenn is going to stack 910's & 980's, he'll have to change his Karma name to, TOWER OF POWER 2First time I heard stacked speakers was at a store called Electricraft I believe it was in the U-District here in Seattle in (once again) 1977. I told my wife at that time, i'm going to buy a real stereo. So they had for $999.99 a giant receiver and a turntable and four large Advent's. They blew me away until I went to Magnolia Hi-Fi and heard a system with the ADS speakers and only a pair. Well needless to say, the price was about the same and I went with the ADS system because it was so much more defined. But I gotta say that double Advent stack blew my hair back. But the rest is history and i'm pretty damn sure I made the right decision, oh yea. Will D.
will d
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Cool very cool, I feel it is my purpose in life to ED JA MA CATE people yonger than myself, or people that just didn't know about good ****, that's it that's all. I hope someone out there in Karma land got to watch said **** for the very first time today, I really do. Cause it's cool when you can turn someone on to something you watched or heard when you were the age they are now. Does that make sense?,,,, I'm confused! Stop making sense, wasn't that D.B and the Talking Heads? God, I ramble more now than when I used to smoke herb. What's up with that?
Will D.
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MJB1959
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Will D.Glad to have struck a vibe with you on that cd, as for myself, I had no chance, my dearly departed Father owned a jazz club here in Minnesota, and he also was an avid music listener and Hifi collector. All 4 of my siblings are musicians and/or lovers of music, being the youngest, I really was exposed to some great music, and nice audio gear as well.
I have always liked Marcus Millers' playing, whether with Miles, Boz Scaggs, Dave Sanborn, Lenny White, Grover Washington, and the Jamaican Boys. I also play bass and guitar, and he is one of my favs, as well as Victor Bailey, Victor Wooten, Stanley Clarke, Ron Carter, Alphonso Johnson, Jaco, Percy Jones, Jonas Hellborg, Jimmy Haslip, etc, etc.
Another cat that played quite a bit with Sanborn was keyboardist Ricky Peterson from here in MN, his family was quite prominent in the local music scene, and have some Prince affiliations.
I have always liked Marcus Millers' playing, whether with Miles, Boz Scaggs, Dave Sanborn, Lenny White, Grover Washington, and the Jamaican Boys. I also play bass and guitar, and he is one of my favs, as well as Victor Bailey, Victor Wooten, Stanley Clarke, Ron Carter, Alphonso Johnson, Jaco, Percy Jones, Jonas Hellborg, Jimmy Haslip, etc, etc.
Another cat that played quite a bit with Sanborn was keyboardist Ricky Peterson from here in MN, his family was quite prominent in the local music scene, and have some Prince affiliations.
will d
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Cool, so now you can go to u-tube and check out night music David Sanborn if have not, think you'll like it. Shame about Jaco, I think he and Jeff Pocaro of Toto were 37 years old. An eighties group called Level 42 had a pretty good bass player in the top 40 style if music they were known for. But the bass player that impressed me is a female with Jeff Beck in a performance Live At Ronnie Scotts. She is pretty damn good. Will D.
Commodore999
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I'm not sure why the black is gone from the badges. Maybe it was sun fading. Or maybe it fell off or was cleaned off. It's the bottom of the speaker, I doubt that area gets much attention.
I haven't listened to them yet. No seperates, although I have a line on some. All my stuff is in storage. Maybe early next week. I'm going to set up the 910s, 1530s and 1590s and see what sounds the best. All unrestored, so my conclusions, may be a bit suspect.
I'll post some more pics once I get them on the stands and hooked up.
Commodore999
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Yep, I wonder the same thing, too. When I saw the numbers I thought there might be a good chance that they were an early pair. I've worked in manufacturing and we did not always start our serials with 001, kind of like what you do with checks. Customers are not always thrilled when their item is the first one sold.
Anyone have a pair of 910s with a serial # below 1000?
GD70
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Same here, some really great performers on that show. I don't know how I didn't know about this!
I was a big Soul Train fan back in the 70's when I was a young teen. Loved the funk & groove!
will d
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I was playing music for a living then, and that show was killin it every week. I'd get done with my gig and go home and watch it, had the VCR recording every show. Too bad the tape in video cassette tapes goes to hell. I want to ask you, i've been thinkin bout stacking my L-570's on top of my L-780 2's. All four are factory black and it's a composite cabinet. I heard they called it plasticrete or something like that. Anyway, I want to put something between them to protect and keep from sliding in any way. Maybe computer mouse pads? And inverting the 570's on top making the woofers up could maybe make them top heavy? Not sure, but after listening to the Maggie's with that tower of sound goin on, I got inspired to do this man. Besides my L-570's are collectin dust. Also just picked up a pair of speakerlab 2's and i'm thinkin of stacking those atop my speakerlab 4's as i'm running three rooms now. Any thoughts Glenn? And OH YEAAAAA, I'm likin the Maggie's. Will D.
GD70
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Hi Will,
Yeah, a really cool show!
Lots of discussions & debates about stacking, only you can decide if you like the sound. Seems the rule of thumb is to put the top speakers upside down like you're planning, to keep the tweeters together.
Connecting them in series also puts a lighter load on your amps. At one point, I had some KLH Six's stacked and it was awesome sounding.
My cave is stuffed full, and I put dish towels between the speakers for protection. I also like the towels because rubber can leave marks on the cab surfaces. As long as the speakers are not tilted, you should have no problems with speaker movements.
I have a set of SMG's waiting for restoration. Visually mint, but no sound. Probably start on those when the weather warms up.
Glenn
Yeah, a really cool show!
Lots of discussions & debates about stacking, only you can decide if you like the sound. Seems the rule of thumb is to put the top speakers upside down like you're planning, to keep the tweeters together.
Connecting them in series also puts a lighter load on your amps. At one point, I had some KLH Six's stacked and it was awesome sounding.
My cave is stuffed full, and I put dish towels between the speakers for protection. I also like the towels because rubber can leave marks on the cab surfaces. As long as the speakers are not tilted, you should have no problems with speaker movements.
I have a set of SMG's waiting for restoration. Visually mint, but no sound. Probably start on those when the weather warms up.
Glenn
will d
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I've never wired in series, and being the IGNARAMOID that I am i'll have to learn exactly how to do that, can't be hard, just never had to. I guess it's GOOGLE TIME
Ya see it's just the ANDREW DICE CLAY in me, ya know what I mean? Like Dice would say; Treat me like the pig that I am, ya know what I mean? Will D.
GD70
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Here you go.I've never wired in series, and being the IGNARAMOID that I am i'll have to learn exactly how to do that, can't be hard, just never had to. I guess it's GOOGLE TIME
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...w.recess.co.uk/images/series.JPG&action=click
Will,
About wiring your speakers in series. If your receiver or amplifier has binding posts and speaker selector knob for A, B and A+B choices, check your manual. It receiver or amp will either be internally wired for either parallel OR series in that A+B position.
( I have a Sony integrated amp that is internally wired A+B in series. My two sets of 8 ohm speakers, give a 16 ohm load. )
Likely not many amps are internally wired for series. But might be worth a look. I hope I wrote this clearly. Not trying to confuse.
About wiring your speakers in series. If your receiver or amplifier has binding posts and speaker selector knob for A, B and A+B choices, check your manual. It receiver or amp will either be internally wired for either parallel OR series in that A+B position.
( I have a Sony integrated amp that is internally wired A+B in series. My two sets of 8 ohm speakers, give a 16 ohm load. )
Likely not many amps are internally wired for series. But might be worth a look. I hope I wrote this clearly. Not trying to confuse.
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My 910 crossover. I wonder what they're going to sound like.
Make sure to let us know.
John
GD70
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Yes, I'm curious as well.
I had an AKer over last night for drinks and music. We listened to a broad variety of music, a lot of vinyl, for 6 hours! We listened to the 910's, the Angelica's, Time Windows, KLH Six's, Fives and AR3's. Overall the Angelica's were the most revealing, exposing aspects of songs that were more veiled in the others. He thought the Time Windows hooked up to the Mac gear were fantastic, and really loved the Six's and LK-72 combination. The 910's were amazing with live material, but interestingly were not as detailed in the mids as the Angelica's, which surprised me. I need to double check the switch settings on the crossovers, and in this listening session, is making me consider looking at the crossovers and possible cap replacement.
Those of you that did replace caps, did you notice improvement in this area, and if so, can you post pics and list the caps you used.
Glenn
Good evening Robert.
Please find attached a photo of the newly fabricated back panel and termination for your upgraded crossovers. You now have three sets of inputs which are all electrically isolated from each other feeding the Woofer, Midrange and Tweeter sections of the crossover network. For single wire connection, jumpers can be installed at the input terminals (I will supply these), but I highly recommend bi-wire as a minimum for performance (Woofer fed with one pair of wires, Tweeter/Midrange with a second pair) paralleled back to your amplifier output terminals.
The top set of binding posts provide for attenuation of the midrange and tweeter if so desired, essentially performing the same function as the now bypassed normal / cut switches. For no attenuation, another set of jumpers will be supplied and would replace the 19 watt metal film resistors. I know we hadn't discussed it, but it just made sense to add this feature and do it right. Now you will not only have an upgraded crossover, but all the options you could ever dream of for the future. If you want to go active at some point , you make a small modification and hardwire the drivers to the new binding posts directly, foregoing the crossover boards and all those problematic connection points completely- this is the right way to do it. Hope all is to your liking - first crossover more or less complete, starting the second. Just need those Mundorf Supremes to finish completely.
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GD70
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NIce work hawkeye!
Looking forward to Robert's sonic report, and how these compare to the originals.
Glenn