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Another "Natural Sound" convert

I've got the CR-620 and am happy to report that I'm very pleased with it. It's in great shape, with all the controls working and static free. I'm very impressed with the tuner. Even inside a steel tugboat with a cheap "T" antenna it pulls in lots of stations. I'm surprised at how good very weak signals sound. Stations that barely register on the meter and can only be heard with the muting function off are still very clear and pleasant to listen to. I can only imagine what it will do with a real antenna. I find that I listen with the bass and treble set pretty flat. It really does seem to produce a "natural" sound. I listened to it at home with a pair of Wharfedale W70Ds, as well as Klipsch Fortes. Both sounded excellent. The sound reproduction with female vocalists really floored me! On the boat I'm using it mostly as a headphone amp with the tuner and also feeding an XM signal to it.

I'm still a vintage Marantz fan, so I guess I like colored sound as well, but this CR-620 displays every good charactoristic that you Yamaha fans spoke of. I'm glad I stumbled on this thread. Keep up the flow of great information. It's great for people like myself who have an interest but very little experiance in audio equipment.

It's hard to believe that $45 can buy such a beautiful piece of equipment.

Bruce
The CR 20 series is a beautiful and eye catching lot:yes: It will continue to surprise the more you listen to them:music:
 
The CR 20 series is a beautiful and eye catching lot:yes: It will continue to surprise the more you listen to them:music:

Yes, I'm finding myself drawn a bit more toward the shiny look of the 20 series faces, as opposed to the matte finish on the 40's. Both are beautiful, though - I wouldn't toss out either one. :D
 
Well, because of this thread, I've got a CR-820 on the way. It will be my first ever Yamaha. I'm looking forward to trying out the "Natural Sound" you guys are raving about. I recently acquired a Kenwood amp with the "Sigma Drive", which has been pretty neat so far. I enjoy trying new stuff (still love my Pioneer "non-switching amp" gear though). I'll update you guys on what I think when she gets here!
 
Well, because of this thread, I've got a CR-820 on the way. It will be my first ever Yamaha. I'm looking forward to trying out the "Natural Sound" you guys are raving about. I recently acquired a Kenwood amp with the "Sigma Drive", which has been pretty neat so far. I enjoy trying new stuff (still love my Pioneer "non-switching amp" gear though). I'll update you guys on what I think when she gets here!

Methinks that you'll like the CR-820. I've had mine since '78 (new). Sent it off to Merrylander last year for a tuneup, then gave it to daughter for her birthday.

At my advanced age and tin ear hearing, I found it hard to hear a great difference twixt it, my Pioneer SX-3800 and Marantz 2270...all three are about the same power levels, but using different speakers probably muddied the tests.

I love all three for different reasons, and replaced the CR-820 with it's big brother the CR-2020 when I passed it on.

One day I'll do it again, and use the same speakers.:scratch2:
Harvey/ Ga
 
All that I know (and that is not a hell of a lot) is that we have only four systems here,
starting upstairs;

Bedroom: CR-1000 with NS-670 speakers, Pioneer PL88FS TT Onkyo CDP, K-1000 cass

FamilyRoom: CR-2020 with Polk Monitor 7Bs Sony CDP/DVD

PlayRoom: CR-2040 with NS-690 series 1 and PX-2 TT CDC-755 CDP and K-1000 cass

Workshop: CR-800 with Polk Monitor 10Bs Pioneer PL44FS TT K-850 cass and CD-X5 CDP

They all sound pretty good to us and we are the only ones they need to please.
 
All that I know (and that is not a hell of a lot) is that we have only four systems here,
starting upstairs;

Bedroom: CR-1000 with NS-670 speakers, Pioneer PL88FS TT Onkyo CDP, K-1000 cass

FamilyRoom: CR-2020 with Polk Monitor 7Bs Sony CDP/DVD

PlayRoom: CR-2040 with NS-690 series 1 and PX-2 TT CDC-755 CDP and K-1000 cass

Workshop: CR-800 with Polk Monitor 10Bs Pioneer PL44FS TT K-850 cass and CD-X5 CDP

They all sound pretty good to us and we are the only ones they need to please.[/QUOTE
Good to see another Pioneer PL44FS TT owner:music:
 
CA 2010 switch problems

My 30 year old CA 2010 has developed some dirty switch problems, I think. The mode selector, the speaker switch, the input switch, and the volume pot all need playing with to get sound, and then it's not consistent unless I run up the volume. Is there a procedure for cleaning?
 
I realized I have become a convert too. Still like my Marantz, but I really like the look and sound of the Yammies. 820, 450(out of rotation) I like a lot. Just got a 640 (in another thread) learning to slowly appriceate it too. I have a 1020 that is retired since I can't afford to fix it at the moment. But when I can, it will knock the 820 off the self and assume its rightful place on the throne.

Yes, they have a look and a sound that is unique to yamaha. 2 thumbs up!
 
My 30 year old CA 2010 has developed some dirty switch problems, I think. The mode selector, the speaker switch, the input switch, and the volume pot all need playing with to get sound, and then it's not consistent unless I run up the volume. Is there a procedure for cleaning?

In the search function use keyword Deox-it...The 2010 takes quite a bit of disassembly to properly and thouroughly deox the switches and controls. If your going to clean switches, do them all.Including the slide switches on the rear of the unit.
 
merrylander; Workshop: CR-800 with Polk Monitor 10Bs Pioneer PL44FS TT K-850 cass and CD-X5 CDP<< Hi Rob.. Have you heard any lack of midrange in the Polk 10B's compared to the other speakers?? I don't remember any lack of mids in the 10A's that I had (on loan to baby daughter) >>They all sound pretty good to us and we are the only ones they need to please.[/QUOTE said:
TRUTH!!! :thmbsp:
Harvey/ Ga
 
Not to my ears, I did replace the SL2000 tweets and there was quite an improvement. Looking into the x-over there is one poly cap and one non-polar electro. When I get a chance I may replace the non-polar.
 
Not to my ears, I did replace the SL2000 tweets and there was quite an improvement. Looking into the x-over there is one poly cap and one non-polar electro. When I get a chance I may replace the non-polar.

I have the Peerless/SL1000 tweets in mine, input wires on the front at a down angle towards the lower corner. Originals had a translucent dome with a hole in it.
One blew, and I found a reasonably priced tweet on E-bay that was similar, but had what looked like a fine screen inbedded in the dome. Wires went downwards like the originals, so it may have been an upgrade.

I've always held the Monitor 10 (driven by my old CR-820) as a standard to compare other speakers against. My Smaller Advents and Wharfedale 60E's come close, a bit ahead of the Large Advents and 5002's that Audiopeasant also loaned me. If the M-10's were the size of my W-60's, they'd still be in the playroom :yes:

Let me know when you recap your M-10's..If a significant improvement (they're not THAT old yet), I'll do mine .

Harvey/ Ga
 
There were quite a few local stereo stores that sold various brands and got into price wars on receivers and such when I was a youngster. You went in there on a Saturday morning and it was 3-4 people deep at the counters all trying to get the super bargain sale item that they never had any in stock in the first place. 20 different systems all blaring at once with different music.

Then there was a small local chain that had polite salespeople, offered you a place to sit and a cup of coffee, and actually knew the equipment and knew music.

They sold McIntosh, and their secondary lines were Yamaha and Denon.

I couldn't afford McIntosh, but the Yamaha gear was within my reach. I still have a pair of Yamaha HP-1 phones I got there.

Yamaha stereo equipment always seemed to be clean and classy looking, and it sounded good too.

Interestingly enough, the place I'm talking about that carried Yamaha is still in business, and I think it's the only one around that is still in business all these years later. In fact, I just checked and they still carry Yamaha and McIntosh. :)

http://www.audiocraft.com/
 
Add another convert to the list.I just purchased a near mint 1020 yesterday to go along with my Dynaco A25's I brought home last week.The wait is going to kill me.:music:
 
BillR mastering: I will pointe out one thing where McI don't stand a chance aganst Yamaha - design.

I have to agree with you on that account, the-real-mandak. I've never been a particular fan of McIntosh styling.

Although that doesn't mean I wouldn't mind have a McIntosh preamp/amp combo at one point or another in the future. I'll check them out eventually.

John
 
CA 2010 switch problems-Pot knob removal?

Quite a bit of disassembly indeed. I haven't a clue how to remove the Pot knob and I'm not sure I get very far even if I do. The Pot has more scratchy sound problems than anything else so I really need to get this. I can loosen the pan (left and right) ring with the set screws, but see none for the volume knob. Anyway, thanks for the advice
Oops, nevermind... I just bathed the whole gang from the outside and it works just fine now. Sure nice to hear it back up to it's normal self again. I'm celebrating by listening to Carlos Santana Buddy Miles Live Freeform Funkified Filth.
 
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I have a problem. This may be sacrilegious, but I like them for their looks. They don't get used as much as they should since I'm a tube guy, but one day I hope to have a place I can display a group of them and use them, too.
Regards,
John
CA-1010, CR-1000, CR-1020, CR-820, CR-620, CR-400, CR-840
M-80, CT-800?, T-7, T-1060, A-500, A-100a, A-960II, AX-596, NS-500
R-2000, R-700, HP-1
 
I have a problem. This may be sacrilegious, but I like them for their looks. They don't get used as much as they should since I'm a tube guy, but one day I hope to have a place I can display a group of them and use them, too.
Regards,
John
CA-1010, CR-1000, CR-1020, CR-820, CR-620, CR-400, CR-840
M-80, CT-800?, T-7, T-1060, A-500, A-100a, A-960II, AX-596, NS-500
R-2000, R-700, HP-1

Nice collection of Yamaha Nerdorama
 
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