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Another question for coffee drinkers

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OK, the local supermarket carries Starbucks, San Francisco something or other and Millstone coffee. I usually buy whatever brand is on sale. Usually I use the grinder they have there, but recently I bought a bag of ground beans as it was on sale and noticed the grind was finer than when I use the auto drip setting on the grinder.

Should I start using the finer settings on the supermarket grinder?
 
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Just buy the beans and buy yourself a grinder. Black and Decker makes a great one (for around $20) that has different settings for the amount, and the kind of coffee maker you use. Doesn't get any better than this.


Retro
 
I buy the "Kirkland" brand whole beans at Costco (if you have one nearby). Stuff tastes like Starbucks at 40% or so less. ALso, I highly recommend the Toddy Cold Brew system (about $32.00 here in Hotlanta). This simple gravity brew canister uses cold water and a filter membrane to avoid harsh acids, etc. One smooth brew indeed.
 
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A while back there was a coffee thread, and other AK'ers informed me about the French press method. $20 at Bed, Bath and Beyond got me a 4-cup F.p. coffeemaker. I use the supermarket Eight o'Clock beans ground coarsely or Chock Full o' Nuts regular in a can. Best I've ever had at home in over 25 years of drinking home-brewed java.
Tom
 
Eight o'Clock beans is about all there is out here or buying Dunkin Donuts brand, I live for coffee and have been using the bean Eight o' Clock for years.
Currently have an off the shelf coffee machine because the Krups one didn't hold up and no matter where I tried I could not get parts....
 
Serious coffee drinkers buy green coffee beans on the internet, roast them in a converted hot air popcorn popper just before grinding, grind them and brew their potfull.

Thank God I'm not serious. I drink Maxwell House 1892 and would be happy with Folger's 'Gourmet' except my wife - not a coffee drinker - thinks it smells bad. I do use a French press but suspect a Mr. Coffee would work just as well and clean up easier.
 
I used Krups brewers for years, then I got a simple Braun and it has been a great coffee maker. Pretty much buy my beans from a local monster grocery store. Try some good Sumatran beans.
 
OvenMaster said:
A while back there was a coffee thread, and other AK'ers informed me about the French press method. $20 at Bed, Bath and Beyond got me a 4-cup F.p. coffeemaker. I use the supermarket Eight o'Clock beans ground coarsely or Chock Full o' Nuts regular in a can. Best I've ever had at home in over 25 years of drinking home-brewed java.
Tom

I've got a Bodum press but never tried "low-end" coffee in it as they never tasted very good through the regular brewer. I'll have to now though. I'd love to find the "Pabst Blue Ribbon" of coffee.
 
I'm a coffee freak, and have been for many years. For our normal coffee, we have a Cuisinart Grind 'n Brew that does just fine. I also have an aluminum stove-top percolator, a glass stove-top perc, a Mr. Coffee cappuccino maker and a Bonjour French Press. I haven't bought ground coffee in over 10 years, I have a Braun grinder that does the job very well. Once you've ground your own, you'll never go back!
 
Bogframe said:
I'm a coffee freak, and have been for many years. For our normal coffee, we have a Cuisinart Grind 'n Brew that does just fine. I also have an aluminum stove-top percolator, a glass stove-top perc, a Mr. Coffee cappuccino maker and a Bonjour French Press. I haven't bought ground coffee in over 10 years, I have a Braun grinder that does the job very well. Once you've ground your own, you'll never go back!
Dude! You are serious about your coffee..... :D
 
soundmotor said:
I've got a Bodum press but never tried "low-end" coffee in it as they never tasted very good through the regular brewer. I'll have to now though. I'd love to find the "Pabst Blue Ribbon" of coffee.
Closest I've found to that was Baronet in restaurants. I wish they sold beans in the supermarket, though.
A tip from personal experience: there's just no way I can put in the "suggested amount" of ground coffee the coffeemaker instructions tell me to. :yuck: That makes it strong enough to strip paint off a battleship. I use one-fourth the amount the maker says to use. If they say use 8 measures, I use just 2. If that's too weak, increase the amount slowly til you find coffee Nirvana. I found that worked best for me.

Tom
 
Bogframe said:
I'm a coffee freak, and have been for many years. For our normal coffee, we have a Cuisinart Grind 'n Brew that does just fine. I also have an aluminum stove-top percolator, a glass stove-top perc, a Mr. Coffee cappuccino maker and a Bonjour French Press. I haven't bought ground coffee in over 10 years, I have a Braun grinder that does the job very well. Once you've ground your own, you'll never go back!


Sir you need to track down some Kope Luwak coffee. So what if they harvest it from the feces of an Indonesion cat? :)

Mike
 
OvenMaster said:
Closest I've found to that was Baronet in restaurants. I wish they sold beans in the supermarket, though.
A tip from personal experience: there's just no way I can put in the "suggested amount" of ground coffee the coffeemaker instructions tell me to. :yuck: That makes it strong enough to strip paint off a battleship. I use one-fourth the amount the maker says to use. If they say use 8 measures, I use just 2. If that's too weak, increase the amount slowly til you find coffee Nirvana. I found that worked best for me.

Tom

The correct amount of coffee is one coffee measure (2 tablespoons) per 6 ounces of water. Here's the tip...the lower the quality of the coffee, the worse it will taste. There are two varieties (species) of coffee: coffea arabica, and coffea robusto. The arabica is the good stuff, the robusto is what all the supermarket brands (Folgers, Maxwell House, etc.) use.

Most important: Never, and I mean never, use a percolator. As soon as the coffee starts to drip from the filter down into the water, you're boiling the coffee, and it absolutely destroys the flavor of the coffee.

Best is the french press, and a close second is any kind of drip machine. The vacuum pot is also terrific, you just hardly ever see them anymore.

The grind is critically important for the type of coffee maker you're using. French press takes coarse, drip is middle, and an espresso machine takes a very fine grind. The least expensive grinder is a blade type, which looks just like a blender inside. It works ok and it's cheap. The problem is that you really can't use it for anything besides a drip coffee maker. Since there's no way to control the size of the ground coffee, you end up with some coarse, some middle sized, and some fine powder, based on how long you hold down the button. If you try to use a blade grinder for a french press, the fine powder will clog the screen and you won't be able to push it down.

Even with a drip machine, too coarse and the coffee willl be weak and you'll need to use too much, too fine and the coffee will be over-extracted and bitter.

The best grinder is a burr grinder. It has specific settings for every type of machine. The downside is that they're relatively expensive, $100-125 or so. I've had mine for ten years.

If you've never made coffee with a fresh top-quality bean, correctly ground, correct amount of beans and water, in a drip machine or press, you've never really had coffee. I know that sounds like I'm preaching, but it's true. The first sip and you'll say: "Jeez...that's strong!" But if you keep tasting it, it will taste better and better, and finally you'll be saying: "Wow, that's really good!".
 
OvenMaster said:
Closest I've found to that was Baronet in restaurants. I wish they sold beans in the supermarket, though.
A tip from personal experience: there's just no way I can put in the "suggested amount" of ground coffee the coffeemaker instructions tell me to. :yuck: That makes it strong enough to strip paint off a battleship. I use one-fourth the amount the maker says to use. If they say use 8 measures, I use just 2. If that's too weak, increase the amount slowly til you find coffee Nirvana. I found that worked best for me.

Tom

Good advice Tom. I'll try that verbatim. One would have to believe that there is a technique for extracting good coffee from those brands.

As an aside, my brother-in-law was Air Force & used to go to Guatemala & Panama a several times a year. Each time he went, he would bring back a few pounds of coffee from the hotel he stayed at. About $2/lb. and some of the best coffee I've had when brewed up.
 
As an avid Good Eats viewer I was skeptical about the coffee episode. Alton's advice was, use lots and lots of grounds and limit the time the water spends in contact with them, because the last stuff to dissolve is the nastiest. The quantity of grounds he recommended sounded like a recipe for driveway sealcoat.

Well, I got a Bunn brewer that inherently limits the drip time and when you feed it plenty of grounds, sure enough it makes a real good cup. I like Eight O'Clock Columbian ground up just before brewing.

Nastiest brand of coffee I ever bought was Arco. I think it was recycled brake shoes.

I know you were being a smartass, but does that hot air popper method really work? There's an Arabic grocery that sells green coffeebeans up by my drummer's place.
 
There's a guy here at work who told me that green beans and the hot air popper are the way to go... so I don't think it's urban myth.

NOW we need a thread on looseleaf teas -- that's more my speed!
 
OvenMaster said:
Closest I've found to that was Baronet in restaurants.

I'd never even heard of this brand until I read it in your post. I stop at a gas station 2-3 times a week and usually get a cup a joe there. This morning I looked at the cup & whaddya know, "Baronet"!
 
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