soundmotor
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OvenMaster said:See?AFAIK, they're based in Hartford and cater to places like restaurants. offices and such.
Tom
And fine gas stations such as CITGO!
It's a good cup too. $1 and 16 oz.
Another question for coffee drinkers
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And fine gas stations such as CITGO!
It's a good cup too. $1 and 16 oz.
JDaniel
Super Member
I've found that with my grinder, I can achieve that fine, almost espresso grind, by grinding for a longer period (30 seconds or more).
I also think one of the keys as to why coffee at a Starbucks tastes better than when I grind/brew it at home is the temp of the water. Their commercial brewers simply get the water hotter than any home brewer I've used. I think that brings out more of the flavor. But that's just my theory.
JD
I also think one of the keys as to why coffee at a Starbucks tastes better than when I grind/brew it at home is the temp of the water. Their commercial brewers simply get the water hotter than any home brewer I've used. I think that brings out more of the flavor. But that's just my theory.
JD
mhardy6647
Lunatic Member
I do two rounds of grinding and I give the grinder a shake during the second one. Perfect for espresso/cappucino.
doug s.
Super Member
fisher dude is correct re: grinders. anyone using a blade grinder, immediately toss it in the garbage. they will ruin the coffee bean. they burn it. you only wanna cut the bean *once*. you need a burr grinder to do this. when the bean is ground, it's outta the action zone, it cannot get repeatedly cut. blade grinders mutilate the coffee over & over.
i was amazed how much better tasting any coffee was, that i'd been using before, when i tossed the blade grinder in favor of a burr grinder. this is w/a french press, of course - the best way to do coffee, w/o getting totally nutz. while i certainly prefer a fancy guatamala antigua, high mountain andes or sumatra mandehling, you would be amazed how good plain ol' eight-o'clock columbian is, when used w/a french press & a burr grinder.
doug s.
i was amazed how much better tasting any coffee was, that i'd been using before, when i tossed the blade grinder in favor of a burr grinder. this is w/a french press, of course - the best way to do coffee, w/o getting totally nutz. while i certainly prefer a fancy guatamala antigua, high mountain andes or sumatra mandehling, you would be amazed how good plain ol' eight-o'clock columbian is, when used w/a french press & a burr grinder.
doug s.
B3Nut
tubes and spinny things!
I broke my old french press. 
Still using a blade grinder too, but keeping my eye out at the thrifts for a burr (saw one once, don't know why I passed on that bolly). I generally use a Krups drip machine. My fave beans are usually Cafe Fair or Alterra Guatemalan (both are fair-trade), though if I'm in a pinch regular Eight O' Clock Bean is pretty decent for a cheap storebought brand. And the 2 tlbs/6oz water rule is spot-on, especially when you get the grind right. You really get the good coffee flavor that way.
+1 on the percolators-are-evil thing...not only do they boil the coffee (eek!) but they regurgitate the coffee back through itself, overextracting the grounds and then boiling that overextracted mess. Yuck!
Re: hot-air poppers - you can roast green coffee beans that way, but more controllable home roasters are available, and some aren't too beastly expensive. I think www.wholelattelove.com had some...
Todd in Beerbratistan
Still using a blade grinder too, but keeping my eye out at the thrifts for a burr (saw one once, don't know why I passed on that bolly). I generally use a Krups drip machine. My fave beans are usually Cafe Fair or Alterra Guatemalan (both are fair-trade), though if I'm in a pinch regular Eight O' Clock Bean is pretty decent for a cheap storebought brand. And the 2 tlbs/6oz water rule is spot-on, especially when you get the grind right. You really get the good coffee flavor that way.+1 on the percolators-are-evil thing...not only do they boil the coffee (eek!) but they regurgitate the coffee back through itself, overextracting the grounds and then boiling that overextracted mess. Yuck!
Re: hot-air poppers - you can roast green coffee beans that way, but more controllable home roasters are available, and some aren't too beastly expensive. I think www.wholelattelove.com had some...
Todd in Beerbratistan
john_w
Miscreant
We have a Starbucks barista inside my office building! Just down the hall apiece from my desk. No wonder I still work here after 8 yrs. I never drink coffee at home, so no need to figure out how to best extract the good stuff from the beans - they have it pretty much down pat.
Personally I think it's a conspiracy to administer addictive performance enhancement drugs that won't completely destroy one's health until after retirement. But I'm not complaining! I'm about to suggest that the barista comes around to everybody's cube with a cart every once in a while. Gettin' sick of having to actually get up and go get it. Life is rough, I tell ya!
Personally I think it's a conspiracy to administer addictive performance enhancement drugs that won't completely destroy one's health until after retirement. But I'm not complaining! I'm about to suggest that the barista comes around to everybody's cube with a cart every once in a while. Gettin' sick of having to actually get up and go get it. Life is rough, I tell ya!
similar perhaps, to music listeners who think bose is *it*? 
OvenMaster
Baby, you're my winterblue
Todd. Bed Bath and Beyond, $20 for a four cup Bodum, as I posted earlier. Works fantastic.B3Nut said:I broke my old french press.
Tom
Daily grind is Chock-Full-O-Nuts Columbian. Can get it on sale periodically so buy many pounds when it is. Brew all our coffee through an unbleached Melita drip filter. For the good stuff we will try some of the beans at various places, but have never been able to beat a good Kona Gold (my cousin lives there, thank goodness) or some of the better coffees from Gavalia. Wish I could afford to drink these every day (though we do all weekend - none of the cheapshit when we have time to enjoy).
Regarding 'Toze's thoughts on the coffee "ceremonies"...
I'm telling you the absolute truth here: As I'm falling asleep each night, my last thoughts are looking forward to that cup of coffee in the morning. The ceremony is part of the joy, like lighting a great cigar and settling down with a terrific single malt scotch.
I grind the beans, fill the brewer with fresh water, listen to it dripping, run out and get the morning paper, and I'm good to "go". It really does start out each day for me.
Which is the reason why, when I started to look for some part time work during my semi-retirement, and I wanted to do something that I loved, Starbucks was a perfect fit. So, I'm actually a Starbucks barista, and because of my love of coffee, I'm also going through Coffee Master training. It covers the geographic origins of coffee, (Central & South American, African, and Indonesian/Asian coffee), methods of harvesting and processing, blending, roasting, etc.
And, of course, grinding and brewing! :thmbsp:
I'm telling you the absolute truth here: As I'm falling asleep each night, my last thoughts are looking forward to that cup of coffee in the morning. The ceremony is part of the joy, like lighting a great cigar and settling down with a terrific single malt scotch.
I grind the beans, fill the brewer with fresh water, listen to it dripping, run out and get the morning paper, and I'm good to "go".
It really does start out each day for me.Which is the reason why, when I started to look for some part time work during my semi-retirement, and I wanted to do something that I loved, Starbucks was a perfect fit. So, I'm actually a Starbucks barista, and because of my love of coffee, I'm also going through Coffee Master training. It covers the geographic origins of coffee, (Central & South American, African, and Indonesian/Asian coffee), methods of harvesting and processing, blending, roasting, etc.
And, of course, grinding and brewing! :thmbsp:
Very interesting how we all view things differently. My wife likes the same grinding, brewing, etc. For me it is a total PITA. I just want the good end products. And, couldn't agree more about Starbucks. I remember going into one in Seattle in 1991 and thinking what a great cup of coffee I was getting. They do a serious good job with the beans, etc. If you get something poor it most likely do to the local staff, as Starbucks at the corporate level is known for its adherence to excellent beans and roasting processes.
Gerrit
Active Member
"It covers the geographic origins of coffee, (Central & South American, African, and Indonesian/Asian coffee), methods of harvesting and processing, blending, roasting, etc."
How would you rate the stuff from Africa, like from Morocco and the spice Islands? We also get a lot of flavored coffee from Zanzibar, but that mostly suck (apart from the vanilla coffee).
Best Regards
gerrit
How would you rate the stuff from Africa, like from Morocco and the spice Islands? We also get a lot of flavored coffee from Zanzibar, but that mostly suck (apart from the vanilla coffee).
Best Regards
gerrit
Rodzilla
Super Member
ok maybe it's just what i'm used too or my own preferences...but i lived on the west coast in the early 90's as starbucks magically appeared on almost every street corner and i've had many opportunities to sample thier coffee[mostly by lack of other choices]...and each time they have been uniformly AWFUL,they make IMO,the WORST coffee i've ever had..now i've noticed that most folks go there for the "coffee sundae" type things with more whipped cream and other crap than coffee...i have no comment on those,but for just a straight everyday coffee...awful,foul,almost undrinkable and on par with the average mcdonalds swill....every single time
i was so happy to move back to the east coast and note that starbucks almost didn't even exist here...and in fact are only now starting to open the odd store...here on the east coast there's already a coffee shop on virtually every corner....be awhile yet before SB's can challenge mighty tim's total market domination around here..and for that i am actually thankful!
i was so happy to move back to the east coast and note that starbucks almost didn't even exist here...and in fact are only now starting to open the odd store...here on the east coast there's already a coffee shop on virtually every corner....be awhile yet before SB's can challenge mighty tim's total market domination around here..and for that i am actually thankful!