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Are streaming services sucking the life out of musical choices?

cpt_paranoia said:
If you say so. Whilst its articles vary in quality, as they come from a variety of sources (a good thing), it's one of the better UK papers. Certainly better than most of the redtops, the Heil and the Torygraph. But we'd better stop there, or we'll hit a moderation redline.
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I do say so. Not taking into account their political bias, this article is a great example of modern "journalism". They take a teeny tiny % of something that is happening (if it really is) and blow it up into a "movement". In reality this "movement" is a big zero.......there are always loony luddites that bored or just like staring at their collective belly buttons and cant find anything else to do.
 
cpt_paranoia said:
So, not the Guardian in particular, then...? Just 'modern journalism'
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Well the Guardian is Left of Lenin politically for sure. Much modern journalism is not to spread "fact", they are into advocating their position. From journalism to activism. The Guardian is most certainly an advocate for their positions on issues and that used to be ok when news sources kept it to their editorial page. But the modern take is to infect their coverage with a slant. I find it a perversion of a once noble profession.
 
Bodyblue said:
The biggest mistake the OP made was reading anything from The Guardian.
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Even the better media outlets need to throw a bone or two to the public who is tired of reading about the imminent collapse of the civilization, although I agree that the Intercept or Tom's Dispatch usually have more meat.
 
Bodyblue said:
Mr Sinatra was broke when he recorded that with Dagmar and he needed the bread, Pallie. He despised that song. He also hated "Strangers In The Night".
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Still part of my collection along with Strangers in the Night. No where did I say he liked it. I also have Mr Moonlight and Revolution 9… ;)

Having a large collection means having some clunkers…but I actually like Strangers in the Night and wouldn’t put it anywhere near the bottom of his output.
 
uofmtiger said:
Still part of my collection along with Strangers in the Night. No where did I say he liked it. I also have Mr Moonlight and Revolution 9… ;)

Having a large collection means having some clunkers…but I actually like Strangers in the Night and wouldn’t put it anywhere near the bottom of his output.
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I think it is a good song, just heard it too much over the years.
 
I'm with Frank. I don't like Strangers In The Night regardless of who sings it. :eek:

My Way doesn't work for me either. :D
 
uofmtiger said:
Still part of my collection along with Strangers in the Night. No where did I say he liked it. I also have Mr Moonlight and Revolution 9… ;)

Having a large collection means having some clunkers…but I actually like Strangers in the Night and wouldn’t put it anywhere near the bottom of his output.
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Funny this came up today....I just got an early birthday present from my wife...sapphire crystal with decent Myota movement.

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So here's something to consider.

I took a long walk yesterday and wanted something to listen too, so I found an LP in one a Quboz playlist I made called "Andy's HiRez" and selected a song. It played fine, but when the selected song was over, it shuffled into a different song, and continued to do so for the entire hour walk. I found this pleasing as I never knew what was next and heard a lot of stuff I haven't heard in a while.

I just checked and there are 354 tracks for 29+ hours of music there, so that should certainly entertain me for a while...
 
I find if anything I have too many choices. In the old days (or not so old days for a few) I would listen to an entire LP side which introduced me to songs that if I might skip with my Spotify Premium. Later some of these songs grew on me to become some of my favorite ones on the LP.

Considering we can choose to listen to almost every LP or CD in our collection and 1,000 more we wish we had, It really doesn't get any better then that from a consumer perspective for choices. The problem is the artist doesn't get much out of it. Perhaps buying some of the music of our favorite artists, either as a CD or streamed would be a good idea.
 
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charles 1973 said:
I find if anything I have too many choices. In the old days (or not so old days for a few) I would listen to an entire LP side which introduced me to songs that if I might skip with my Spotify Premium. Later some of these songs grew on me to become some of my favorite ones on the LP.

Considering we can choose to listen to almost every LP or CD in our collection and 1,000 more we wish we had, It really doesn't get any better then that from a consumer perspective for choices. The problem is the artist doesn't get much out of it. Perhaps buying some of the music of our favorite artists, either as a CD or streamed would be a good idea.
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The reason that the artists dont get a lot from streaming (although some obscure artists get a hell of a lot more from streaming than CD or album sales) is ASCAP takes all the money and doles it out to the artists. The streamers would much rather pay the artists directly but are not allowed to by law.
 
tomlinmgt said:
Deliberately lazy journalism. And look it what it stirred up (seven pages when all that really needs to be said can be done so in a few or less). And I think that's the objective.
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Bingo! Par for the course for that outlet actually. Pure click bait straw man BS.
 
Bodyblue said:
The reason that the artists dont get a lot from streaming (although some obscure artists get a hell of a lot more from streaming than CD or album sales) is ASCAP takes all the money and doles it out to the artists. The streamers would much rather pay the artists directly but are not allowed to by law.
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A buddies band had to order more CDs to sell from their site after they jumped on the streaming services. It's pretty great for the small guys I actually know, the new radio, I am sure it probably helps for most smaller bands. The big guys have got theirs, have observed they seem to be the ones typically whining.
 
GChief said:
A buddies band had to order more CDs to sell from their site after they jumped on the streaming services. It's pretty great for the small guys I actually know, the new radio, I am sure it probably helps for most smaller bands. The big guys have got theirs, have observed they seem to be the ones typically whining.
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Obscure bands that come through town likely would've stayed off my radar pre streaming. With streaming, I can look them up and give them a listen...and on more than a few occasions that whole process has compelled me to go catch a band I would've otherwise totally blown off. I don't think I'm an outlier doing that sort of thing, either...and that's gotta be a pretty strong asset for an up and coming act.
 
tomlinmgt said:
Obscure bands that come through town likely would've stayed off my radar pre streaming. With streaming, I can look them up and give them a listen...and on more than a few occasions that whole process has compelled me to go catch a band I would've otherwise totally blown off. I don't think I'm an outlier doing that sort of thing, either...and that's gotta be a pretty strong asset for an up and coming act.
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Its also good got the old peps. Many of the people I know have been slugging it out on the club scene for 20-30yrs, a few chances to open for big acts for a handful of dates etc, the old interweb gave them a little boost but not like streaming. Most have been scraping a decent living for a lot of that time.
 
Andyman said:
So here's something to consider.

I took a long walk yesterday and wanted something to listen too, so I found an LP in one a Quboz playlist I made called "Andy's HiRez" and selected a song. It played fine, but when the selected song was over, it shuffled into a different song, and continued to do so for the entire hour walk. I found this pleasing as I never knew what was next and heard a lot of stuff I haven't heard in a while.

I just checked and there are 354 tracks for 29+ hours of music there, so that should certainly entertain me for a while...
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Yep, that's a feature you can turn on and off. Qobuz calls it Autoplay, and it plays "similar" tracks to the one you just listened to. Didn't work so well for me.
 
I have found just the opposite to be true. If I may include Youtube as a music streamer, I have found many new artists I like that I would never have been exposed to, if not for Youtube.
 
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