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Bad Neighbor....HELP!!!!!!!!

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PioneerGuy75 said:
Woke up this morning to six cars of cops next door. Third time this WEEK!

All I know is I am geting downright sick of these people.
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1. If the landlord thinks you're part of the problem, stop calling the landlord. Let him enjoy the fruits of his failure to act.

2. If she continues to violate city noise ordinances, continue to call the police. If she has been able to avoid the issue by turning down the volume before the police get there, when you call explain what she's doing and ask them to park down the block. Police aren't stupid. Really. They've seen it all before.

3. When you call the police, make sure you call back the next day and give them the landlord/owner's name, address, and phone number. Nobody hates having to come back to the same place over and over and over again more than the cop who has to fill out the paperwork.

4. If it's not too late, file charges with the police regarding the fact that she cut your hose. When you ask a cop to come out and you fill him in on what happened, keep it light, and make sure he understands that you understand that this isn't the most important thing he's going to do today, which is why you didn't report it when it happened. However, now that you keep seeing multiple police cars in her driveway on multiple occasions, you've begun to realize that she's a serious problem, may be mentally unstable, and you've begun to fear for your safety.

5. When you have the opportunity, ask the officer how it's possible that the landlord/owner can just ignore what's happening on his property, and if there's any possible way the officer can have a detective give the property owner a call. You know, just to touch base and see what the owner is doing to rectify the situation. Given that the property owner is now housing a public nuisance. Just sayin'.:D

Good luck!
 
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Fisherdude said:
5. When you have the opportunity, ask the officer how it's possible that the landlord/owner can just ignore what's happening on his property, and if there's any possible way the officer can have a detective give the property owner a call. You know, just to touch base and see what the owner is doing to rectify the situation. Given that the property owner is now housing a public nuisance. Just sayin'.:D
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I'd do some research on local ordinances, too. When I lived up in Columbia, an ordinance was passed making owner/landlords liable if renters racked up repeated noise/party citations.
 
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Hopefully, eventually, the city will come knocking on his door with a nuisance abatement order of some kind. He is not permitted to maintain a dwelling that houses individuals who violate city ordinances. He is not permitted to maintain a building that is in violation of city ordinances.

Doesn't necessarily mean that the city will do anything about it, of course. We can only keep our fingers crossed and wait. But it's the correct and lawful approach.
 
Just found this thread -

And the key here is "Fearing for your Safety".

Anytime you have a run in with them, for any reason, use that phrase. When you hear the music is too loud, or the dogs are barking, or whatever, tell the operator that you are afraid to talk to her because she is unreasonable and you fear for your safety. That get's the attention of the P.D.
 
Fisherdude said:
Hopefully, eventually, the city will come knocking on his door with a nuisance abatement order of some kind. He is not permitted to maintain a dwelling that houses individuals who violate city ordinances. He is not permitted to maintain a building that is in violation of city ordinances.

Doesn't necessarily mean that the city will do anything about it, of course. We can only keep our fingers crossed and wait. But it's the correct and lawful approach.
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And, the landlord will likely have a completely trashed place when the crazies move out. Also preventable.
 
stabby said:
You need to read your CC&R's, twice, then once backwards. There may be rules in there about how owners are supposed to manage their tenants, and/or what the HOA is supposed to do.

If there are, point them out to the HOA, and if nothing happens, sorry to say, hire a lawyer. We've been moving some bad renters along in our neighborhood using the HOA, police, and the HOA's lawyer.

You worked too hard to own a home and you deserve to enjoy your time there.
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The biggest roadblock to resolution is that PioneerGuy75 seems to be the only one raising concerns to the landlord and or HOA. If nobody else is raising a concern to the landlord and or HOA then PioneerGuy75 seems like the problem, not the solution, in the eyes of these people.
 
Fisherdude said:
Given that the property owner is now housing a public nuisance. Just sayin'.:D

Good luck!
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Certainly a possible approach, but IMO, doesn't seem to be a public nuisance based on PioneerGuy75's comments that he's the only one raising a concern. That's individual victim territory.

Somehow this all has to be put back on the tenant in the eyes of the landlord and or HOA, not PioneerGuy75 who they perceive as the only burr under their saddle.

Maybe PioneerGuy75 should invite the landlord and or a person or two from the HOA for a nice evening dinner...scheduled to coincide with the most likely time of trouble from next door.
 
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Fisherdude said:
Hopefully, eventually, the city will come knocking on his door with a nuisance abatement order of some kind. He is not permitted to maintain a dwelling that houses individuals who violate city ordinances. He is not permitted to maintain a building that is in violation of city ordinances.

Doesn't necessarily mean that the city will do anything about it, of course. We can only keep our fingers crossed and wait. But it's the correct and lawful approach.
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That is a very big hopefully right at the beginning there. Mind you, it could work because some cities will go back to home owner if the tenants make a nuisance of themselves, but by far not all cities do that. From what I can see here, the city seems to deal with the tenants exclusively. In my town it's now three strikes and you are out. They'll warn the tenant twice and than they'll go after the landlord, but that's a brand new ordinance they brought in this year.

Again, if you fear for your safety, and I certainly would in this situation, calling the landlord to find out what's going on in his property is also a perfectly correct and lawful approach.

All the police can do is put pressure on the landlord as well - unless things escalate to the point where they can put the tenants behind bars. The landlord is the party who can quickest and easiest put an end to this by kicking his tenants out. The smart move IMHO is to keep him involved.
 
Of course, it would take months for the LL to actually kick the tenants out, even if he had some cause to do so under the lease contract, which he may or may not. Which is not to say he shouldn't, it just won't be a fast process.
 
Until the landlord is feeling sufficient pressure/motive from more than just one person, he/she has no vested interest in evicting the renter and losing the current status quo rental income. Pretty much end of story, I'd think.
 
Unfortunately a lot of landlords figure in the cost of repairs and cleaning of trashed rentals as a cost of doing business.
 
I'm really surprised the landlord is so indifferent. Maybe he/she is intimidated by the tenant or doesn't want the legal/personal hassle? I assume she is continuing to pay rent or she would be out on her butt.

Often noise ordinance laws contain specific details about what dB levels are permissible within certain hours. Seattle's municipal laws have tons of detail about this (ex. all measurements "A" weighted).

Sharing a wall complicates things a bit, but if it's really that loud you should have no problem "catching her in the act" on video. All you need is an SPL meter and some way to accurately "time stamp" the video. If the cops need to catch her in the act to issue a ticket then remind them to park down the block.
 
I thought about the sound meter, but music thumping through the wall late at night can be annoying and disturbing at levels far below anything that would raise an eyebrow on an SPL meter.
 
toxcrusadr said:
I thought about the sound meter, but music thumping through the wall late at night can be annoying and disturbing at levels far below anything that would raise an eyebrow on an SPL meter.
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The measurement outside might be greater, but you're correct. It could only prove that the level (as annoying as it is) is legal.
 
whoaru99 said:
Until the landlord is feeling sufficient pressure/motive from more than just one person, he/she has no vested interest in evicting the renter and losing the current status quo rental income. Pretty much end of story, I'd think.
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Sounds to me like the lifestyle of the "neighbor" is the accepted norm for the area, given the lack of interest by the landlord, police, neighbors, etc. That means that even if you win the battle, you lose the war.

Unfortunately, you don't "own" your home. What you do own is a piece of paper that says you can occupy HALF of a building that is completely controlled by some type of association. You can stay there until someone else gives you money for your paper, but rocking the boat will only do harm to yourself. If you can get enough members to back you, then you have a chance. If not, you're screwed.
 
short term solution - buy earplugs, or headphones....

mount a bass shaker on the common wall as close as possible to her bedroom... use more than enough power...
 
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