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Best japanese Speakers?

Well, I wouldn't put too much faith in Sony's claims without measured proof right at this time. Being a P.Eng I'd have to view scientific data upholding their claims before I could quote it. Be and diamond are the stiffest materials we have in relation to their native weight. Beryllium has a molar mass: 9.01u and hardness of 5.5 Mohs. Acoustic propagation is typically 12600m/s- 12890m/s, 14000m/s longitudinal velocity, natural diamond is the only material that can exceed that by any amount that I've ever seen. If there is a better material though, I would be open minded to it.
 
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My cousin has a minty pair of Mitsubishi (Diatone in japan) DS-40c, he got at a goodwill about 2 years ago. They are probably one of the best sounding 2-way speakers I've ever heard.


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Well, I wouldn't put too much faith in Sony's claims without measured proof right at this time. Being a P.Eng I'd have to view scientific data upholding their claims before I could quote it. Be and diamond are the stiffest materials we have in relation to their native weight. Beryllium has a molar mass: 9.01u and hardness of 5.5 Mohs. Acoustic propagation is typically 12600m/s- 12890m/s, 14000m/s longitudinal velocity, natural diamond is the only material that can exceed that by any amount that I've ever seen. If there is a better material though, I would be open minded to it.
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afaik the benefit sony claim over beryllium of the grown material in the La Voce series is a much higher breakup frequency. reading my previous comment i can see why you thought i meant it was stiffer than beryllium, but infact i meant it was a very light and stiff material in the greater scheme of things.

i apologise for my poor use of english
 
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They grew the tweeter material? That is unique. I agree ESLs are a little overrated sometimes. I also have two speakers from Sony, the square-driver APM-500s (not shown) and SS-M7B ES.
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I've never seen black SS-m7s (I would guess that is what the 'B' is for?). I use the more common wood veneers SS-m7 as my mains. They're a very easy speaker to live with...they sneak up on you and the next thing you know you're married to them.
 
They are very attractive and a lot of people like them when they come over and hear them, they have strong bass. A friend loves the midrange and the fact the listener can be off axis and the sound remains uniform.
 
Sony Carbocon series always a favourite and show a clean pair of heels to monitors for neutrality and agility.
 
Hello to all. I know this is an old thread but I am new to this site so I thought I would respond anyway. I love Yamahe speakers and currently have 3 pairs of NS 200ma, I pair of NS 200m, 1 pair of NS 500m and a pair of NS 670's. The 2nd pair of NS 200ma are hybrids, using a pair of 670 tweeters and 10" replacment Yamaha woofers , not sure what they came from but they fit and are 6 ohm. Im not sure if there is a best speaker out there. More expensive isnt always the path to better sound as I learned the hard way I love the sound if all of mine , stayed with in my budget and will never sell any of them The hybrid pair of NS 200ma's have been with me for 23 years and counting.
 
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My vote goes too Sansui for the Linear Motion range, LM-220, LM-330. Vastly superior too there usual kabaki offerings. But way below your price range.
 
My knowledge is with Pioneer and Yamaha. The pioneer speakers such as HPM-100, HPM-700 etc are USA mass sold speakers, made in Japan. So not sure if these count as true Japanese speakers. As much as I do love the HPM-100 I must say the NS-2000 which I have are fantastic. I have all Accuphase and Luxman and these speakers are so transparent and I often have to look up and figure out if a sound is coming from the speakers or somewhere else. Yamaha has the ability to separate sound and de-localize the origins. I also have the NS-1000x and the NS-1000 ebonies which started the love affair off.
 
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here is link to some photos of Pioneer Exclusives and some of kenric sound's custom finished Rey Audio Speakers
http://audiodiy.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=659
Then some more Rey Audio ,tons of JBL's ,Pioneer Exclusive , Technics high end stuff they do it all at kenrick sound they deal in high end Japanese and JBL
speakers they specialize in lots of JBL restores and custom stuff the ReY Audio speakers can be seen here
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=kenr...tml&docid=3E6ffhzIKh105M&imgurl=http://kenric
they have a You tube channel, a blog lots of drool worthy videos here is a link to REY Audio http://www.reyaudio.com/large-e.html
found this stuff by accident a while ago probably linked from HIFI DO or something can't remember
here is a Link to pictures of more high end Japanese speakers Diatones,Yamahas , etc drool worthy If I was in Japan and had the budget Kenrick sound would be on my short list of places to stop in for sure.
As to which are best there are a lot of contenders mentioned in this thread for sure. They ship to US . also no affil.
 
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Gauss Optonica CP-3830

I would opine that one Mr Bart Locanthi had something to do with these. But, they tell me that while at Gauss Mr Locanthi did not work on speakers.

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One summers day in 1985-1987 I was walking down the Ginza (shopping mall) in Sasebo, Japan, and this electronic shop was playing a new stereo.

The sound quality was simply amazing. It just didn't sound great...it sounded simply wonderous. It stopped me in my tracks and I went inside to check it out.

It was a Sony. Yeah, I know, unreal. Sony.

It was explained to me that this Sony speaker system was for the Japanese domestic market 'only'. I can't remember the model or price, sorry, but they were 'very expensive'.

Those speakers sounded simply outrageous. Top Quality. Sony 'Japanese domestic market' speakers. You know, like when you hear one specific set of speakers and you say to yourself immediately: "Yeah, those are the ones!!" They sounded beautiful. So wonderful in fact that you didn't even hear the speakers...all you heard was music.
 
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One day in 1987 I was walking down the Ginza in Sasebo, Japan, and this electronic shop was playing a new stereo.

The sound quality was simply amazing. It just didn't sound great...it sounded simply wonderful. It stopped me in my tracks and I went inside to check it out.

It was a Sony. Yeah, I know, unreal.

It was explained to me that this speaker system was for the Japanese domestic market 'only'. I can't remember the price but it was 'very expensive'.

Those speakers sounded simply outrageous. Top Quality. Yeah, I know...Sony.
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It would seem that the best components that the Japanese made were kept exclusively for the Japanese market only.

My Yamaha GT 2000 turntable sounds so good that I have trouble comprehending what I am hearing. It needs additional isolation* and I utilise a vibration damping platform of my own devising between the turntable and the isolation footers. The result is mind-blowing. The purity of the reproduction of my records is unparalleled compared to any source that I have listened to. I have lived with SACD and 192K/24 DVD-A (ie I've owned dedicated machines). The GT 2000 when fastidiously sited makes those Digital Hi-Rez formats sound like low-rez.

The GT 2000 was a Japanese market only component. They definitely kept the best for themselves and made no attempt to inform the West about their treasures. I can't imagine what other gems they hid (although I am very familiar with the Japanese-only components). I have only seen my Kenwood L-06M amps for sale in Japan, also.

* The Yamaha GT 2000 was designed to be used with an optional-extra suspension cradle.
 
I own Pioneer HPM60, Yamaha NS-700X monitors and Sony SS-G3. Of those I prefer the sound of the Sony's but love the looks of the Yamaha's. My ears favour North American speakers, and of course, those made in Canada such as the original Energy line.

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My vote would also be for Diatone (Diamond tone) followed by Yamaha NS series especially the 2000.image.jpeg
I used the hifido alert system and waited about 3 years and finally landed the best speakers I have ever had in my system. The jaw droppingly fantastic DS-5000. Made circa 1982, 87kg per speaker. I also own a pair of Yamaha NS-2000 a superb speaker.
 
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