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Best midrange ever? Worst?!

My best guess zilch,, all the stuff in the middle that we aren't trying to augment with subs and super tweets...

numbers.. hhhmm.. maybe 1000hz to 10khz... is there a REAL definition?
 
Midrange is the range of the human voice, roughly speaking. Midrange can arguably be extended to the top note of the piano, I'd opine.


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Help me, now, what is "Midrange?"
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I think that's a legitimately good question, and the answer is probably subjective at best.

IMO, midrange begins somewhere in the 60-100hz range and extends to a point above or marking the top of the frequency of the average ambient sound in our listening environment which is going to be highly variable from listener to listener, maybe 2000hz up to 10khz.

If you look at the chart that MRH so graciously posted for us, it shows the cello extending down to 60hz, i cannot think of a more "midrangy" stringed instrument than a cello.

Just my .02 y'all understand................
 
Pretty interesting to see not many instruments extend below 40hz..
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consider those charts represent only the intended fundamental frequencies of the instruments, it doesn't take into consideration the harmonics and resonances that are a major factor in the voice and tonality of an instrument.

Also consider that with modern recording and PA technology that for instance "hears" the kick drum from a distance of 6-12 inches or less, with a ribbon element microphone specially designed to be sensitive at ultra low frequencies, and it becomes logical that the "reproduction" of recorded music requires equipment capable of wider frequency response extremes than might be present to the average listener by that same kick drum at a live performance of the same music without amplification.
 
Best: (too many good ones, I''ll stick with a few)

Apogee's (why I sought them out)
Quad
ML's
Maggies
Dynaudio D54af is probably the best dome mid I've ever heard. (DIY at one time)

Worst:


I prefer not to say, too much flaming will occur, suffice it to say it would be many "fav's" here.


IMHO BTW
 
As far as commercially-sold speakers, IMHO, the Tannoy Kensington wins by far. Followed closely by the Tannoy Glenair.

As for ANYTHING I've heard... it was while testing my new design. We got it, somehow, where the midrange was just THERE... but alas, there were still integration problems with the bass and treble. We've got it balanced better as far as integration is concerned, but I'm still working to get that final detail of the mids BACK to where it was at THAT INSTANT. I'm very close...

Regards,
Gordon.
 
bowtie427ss said:
I think that's a legitimately good question, and the answer is probably subjective at best.
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Indeed.

According to Newell/Holland Loudspeakers for Music Recording and Reproduction (2007), midrange is 250 Hz - 5 kHz.

Lower mid is 200 - 1000 Hz.

Upper mid is 2 - 6 kHz.
 
Zilch said:
Indeed.

According to Newell/Holland Loudspeakers for Music Recording and Reproduction (2007), midrange is 250 Hz - 5 kHz.

Lower mid is 200 - 1000 Hz.

Upper mid is 2 - 6 kHz.
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Well, if you want to do it with math (equal ratios):

Bass 20-200 Hz
Midrange 200-2000 Hz
Treble 2000-20000 Hz.

An even decade in each division... that's about as logical of a delineation as I can think of...

Regards,
Gordon.
 
Best midrange I've heard....

This....

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Good from about 300Hz to 10KHz or 12KHz....:thmbsp:

Now to figure out what to do about music over 10-12KHz......:scratch2:
 
Perception of music is a biological/neurological process. Our ears and cochleas are not ideal flatline freq analizers. Test yours.

Speech has vowels - often 400-1000Hz, plus consonants, often 2000-5000.

The Fletcher-Munson curves appear to mirror this speech/highest hearing range theory; two peaks. Most critical xover point? In between those.

But how about the other animals in your house?
Infrasonic sub for Pidgeons, plasma tweeter for bats?

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Hearing ranges:

Atlantic bottlenose dolphin
(Tursiops truncatus)
75-150 000 Hz

Humpback whale (Megaptera novaeangliae)
30-28 000 Hz

Human (Homo sapiens)
20-20 000 Hz

Domestic cat (Felis catus)
45-64 000 Hz

Eastern grey kangaroo (Macropus giganteus)
2500-30 000 Hz

Pigeon (Columba livia)
0.05 -10 000 Hz

Goldfish (Carassius auratus)
30-8000 Hz

Greater horseshoe bat
(Rhinolophus ferrumequinum)
2000-110 000 Hz

Asian elephant (Elephas maximus)
16-1000 Hz

Domestic dog (Canis familiaris)
40-40 000 Hz

Susurus
 
Best midrange I've heard so far (in no special order):

1) Jordan JX92S
2) JXR6HD
3) B&W 803S /804S (for the price, classical music)

Some day I'll find some Quad's. Many companies out perform B&W at their price but we have a limited variety here. :tears:
 
"I've kinda given up on 2-ways."

Some of the best midrange I've ever heard comes from Spica TC 60's, and they are 2-ways. So don't give up just yet. Also many of the Polk Monitor series are technically 2-ways even tho they have a PR. The mids from them is impressive with a nice bottom end.
 
Klipsch Cornwalls MR horns/compression drivers aren't the worst imaginable midrange, but with unsympathetic amplification and poor source material, they can be nasty indeed.
 
Welcome OitP.
Lots to see here, and plenty of KEF fans. Here's something that looks like a 207s painted by Salvador Dali...


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Susurus
 
Worst midrange: whatever the Zu Druid uses.

Best midrange: Tough to beat the Scanspeak Revelator and Seas Excel drivers when properly implemented for cone mids.
Any number of electrostats excel at midrange clarity.
Geddes Waveguides with B&C compression drivers.
UnityHorns with TAD compression drivers.
 
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