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Can't find that warm sound I want.

1060 would be a great choice....if you can find one....and are willing to pay.

Pay, not only for the unit itself but also pay for any repairs or reatoration that will eventually occur. Be cautious with anything you consider that has claims to have been restored, everyone has a different definition of what actually constitutes a restoration.

You could also consider performing some, if not all the work yourself depending on your comfort/skill level and tool arsenal. The 1060 is a fairly simple unit and there are many contributors here on AK to help you along.

Keep us posted.
 
I mean....tell me more. No wrong answers on this test.[/QUOTE]

That is one of the biggest challenges, there rarely are wrong answers; just a dizzying array of options.....and opinions to go along with them.

We all hear and listen differently, what I think sounds great, you may not. Neither of us would be wrong, just different.

Just like any infant, you will crawl before you walk. In this hobby for 40 years and Im still learning to walk !!!!
 
Vinyl infant said:
I stayed in an airbnb a while back with a pretty basic marantz amp and table(not sure which) and some advent speakers. The sound I heard out of that system was magical to me, like a warm hug for my ear holes. After that I had to build my own system. I posted a few questions on Audio Karma, did a lot of research and ended up with a pretty kickass setup....but it doesn't sound like that warm hug I wanted. I tried to get ahold of the airbnb to ask about the setup but can't get in contact. Maybe you guys can give me some advice based on what I have now as to what I need to replace to get the warm sound I want.

Currently I have:
Sansui 7070
Mitsubishi LT-20
MMC 20CL
ADS L520's
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From what you've said about the warm hug experience I'd say get stacked Advents, proper working condition of course. The Sansui is perfectly adequate unless you have a big room or just want to play it louder with more headroom. I've had stacked Advents a few times and they do give a warm hug listening experience.
 
Vinyl infant said:
Give me some examples of what you think some options would be.
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One receiver that has that "warm sound" that I own is the Sherwood s-7100a, which is cap coupled. I describe the sound as "The DJ in the room with you" sound, like I remember quality stereo receivers from the early mid seventies.

Another might be the Harman Kardon 330b, which is also cap coupled. I don't own one, but I've read that it has that "warm sound".

I have not had any good tube amps, maybe in the future.
 
Speakers and room, as others have already said. My guess is that you'd love a pair of older Advents or ARs, in a room that has little diffuse bloom to it...not too dead. Experiment with placement and listening position with the stuff you have now, in the meantime. Toe-in angle, height of speaker compared to floor, distance from side and back walls, listening position distance from speakers, side walls, and back walls, ear height in relation to speaker vertical axis height....every one of those things plays a role in the timbral balance of your system.
 
Vinyl infant said:
SO don't get the advents and replace the amplifier instead?
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Like others have said, I think the speakers are 3/4 of the equation when it comes to tonal differences. So definitely start there. Someone mentioned JBL, I have never heard a warm model from them.
You might want to try to find a vintage equalizer to use with your Sansui. You can taper off the higher frequencies and experiment. You can probably find one cheap. Most of us old timers used them so they are out there. I still have my old silver faced one.
A pair or two of Advents wouldn’t set you back too much if you shop smart. Those or (as suggested) some other East Coast sounding speaker should mellow things out.
Marantz gear is artificially high priced due to the collector value. Nice stuff but, pricey.
 
The early 70's Realistic receivers I've owned were/are some of the warmest sounding units I've ever had. I have a STA-46 and I read it had 12 watts per channel. I really didn't expect much from it to be honest, but it really makes my minimus 7's sound like a much larger speaker. It really drives them well and fills out the sound. Their little mini system amps are the same way only not as loud due to being 1.8 watts a channel.

As far as speakers, I find that some of the later Advents have a nice warm presentation. I'm talking Advent Legacy, even Baby Advents. The Baby Advent sounds warm, but is too small a speaker to just fill a room with sound, good for small rooms/near field.
 
Dswankey said:
Another thing to consider is room acoustics & speaker placement at the airbnb compared to you current listening environment. It can make a world of difference sound presentation wise.
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To the OP...you really need to address this before you start swapping out gear. If you're in a room with bare, hard floors and not a lot of acoustically absorptive furnishings or even a carpeted room that has acoustically reflective surfaces in the wrong places, and the Airbnb system was in a room that's not acoustically "bright", you're starting out on a muddy field outdoors in the freezing rain compared to astroturf in a climate controlled stadium. I bought a set of Vandersteen 2ci's many years ago and paired them with a Hafler 500 amp and 110 preamp...all considered on the "warm to neutral" side...and in my acoustically reflective/bright environment it all sounded harsh compared to what I heard at the seller's when I auditioned the Vandersteens. The big difference was his room was carpeted and had curtains over most all the walls where my room had a bare, hard floor and the walls were drywall and no curtains. I changed the acoustic profile of the room and the Vandersteens sounded like totally different speakers. I think that if you can't make the combination you have now sound warm with tone controls, you probably have a room that's working against you.
 
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I do agree that the majority the speakers and room acoustics will justify of how it will sound. One can be changing components where in fact treating and addressing acoustical problems can be the culprit. Dont get me wrong, changing components it does have an affect on the sound but for effort and cost in treating the room would be much cheaper and most beneficial to your listening experience.
 
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I am not trying to be a jerk here but if I liked the sound of a Marantz amp and Advent speakers, that's what I would purchase.

The Marantz 1060 is a good amp with a very nice phono stage.

I like them and own 3.

The Sherwood 7100 receiver is mentioned many times on AK as sounding warm.

Personally, I would find a solid-state combination that you like before venturing into tubes.
The cheapest option would be to purchase a pair of Advents and go from there.
If that doesn't do the trick with the Sansui, then maybe go with a different cartridge.
I use Grado when I want warm.

All just my opinion.
 
MuseChaser said:
I'll never forget what my grandfather used to tell me... "Son, always..." ....wait...maybe... "Son, never...." ...oh,crap, it was ONE of those two...

:) Sorry... I know it was a typo. I just like funny typos. Not putting you down...I make'em all the time.
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Ha, good eye
 
I wonder if an EQ would solve this hunger for warm sound. All you're doing rolling off the highs, if I'm not mistaken.
 
rickb119 said:
My Sansui 5000a is both warm, and sweet. :thumbsup:
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Indeed, they are, would sound nice and warm with stacked Advents. One thing I've always thought about the Advents, while acknowledging deficits, is they do nothing wrong, that is, very little listener fatigue, the warm sound. Stacked even better, more than simply twice of the same.
 
I’d suggest you visit some audio retailers and audition some speakers/amps/integrated amps/receivers until you can replicate that “warm hug” you’re after. If you’re on the East Coast, visit Audio Classics. They’re friendly and not pushy. They also have a lot of vintage equipment (Marantz, McIntosh, Klipsch, etc.). Good luck.
 
pauldrewry said:
I wonder if an EQ would solve this hunger for warm sound. All you're doing rolling off the highs, if I'm not mistaken.
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That would be a budget friendly experiment.

A lot of mid-range bothers me (and my tinnitus).
An EQ would be a good way to crank that down to see if the mids are the culprit in the OP’s setup.
 
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