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Cheap kg-4 tweeter modification.

Currently I have 18 Klipsch speakers at home. I've had my hands in 9 of them. That's just what I have now, over the years the number of speakers that I've tinkered with is exponentially higher. That doesn't count other brands that I have now or have had in the past. I love to experiment.
 
Currently I have 18 Klipsch speakers at home. I've had my hands in 9 of them. That's just what I have now, over the years the number of speakers that I've tinkered with is exponentially higher. That doesn't count other brands that I have now or have had in the past. I love to experiment.
There are more of us than you think, including us.
 
I can't speak for the OP of course but I suspect his or her situation is not that different from mine....40 year old speakers that have literally been beat on until they became my property: Woofers that have deteriorated surrounds with holes and no longer have parts available, horribly corroded binding posts, tweeters that sound like nails on a chalkboard, cabinets that leak like a sieve, moldy, bubbling, peeling veneer that needs to be completely redone, who knows what with the crossovers. I bought mine for a very reasonable price knowing full well that I would have to invest some of my own time and money into making them sing again. No, they will never truly be Klipsch KG4's from 1984, but I am doing my best to rebuild them in the spirit of what the manufacturer may have intended, with some artistic license thrown in to perhaps, perhaps make some small improvements from how they currently sound. And I'm having a blast doing it! It would not surprise me in the least if, after they are done, I have spent much more than they are worth. Heck, just with my time alone so far I am way upside down. For me, that's just not the point.
 
Call them whatever you want (mods or modifications), but with the vast variety of speakers we have available to us, I consider any DIY modification to an original design to be a last resort for people who just can't afford to try any other speakers that might sound better in their system. In the instances where I've listened to modified speakers in someone else's system, I've either heard little to no differences or definitely worse results. Regardless of how cheap the mod was, it always seemed to be a waste of time to me. And at 65, I'm an adult, even though my wife sometimes thinks differently.
I might be able to afford to buy different speakers if I had fewer hobbies: neither bicycles, guitars, motorcycles nor Hi-Fi are cheap hobbies in and of themselves, but to indulge in them simultaneously? Something’s got to give. That said, my parsimonious ways not withstanding, the real allure for me is the appeal of diy culture: diving deep and learning everything I can in an obsessive manner, not just doing half baked mods to save a few bucks, but going all in, learning the whys and the hows along the way, going all in and building from the ground up, addressing the flaws and reengineering them from the ground up, building something much better than I can buy at any price and be able to sit back, listen and say “I made that.” Anyone can buy anything if they have enough money, but few can look at a stack of wood or parts and say “I can make something with that.” That’s why I’m here: spending money is boring. I’m interested in building stuff that nobody else has.
 
This thread needs to be studied in college psych 101 as an example of a futile attempt (by the OP) to heard a hoard of cats.
LOL seriously WTF.
Cat herding is a fun hobby, I highly recommend it.

I have also heard a hoard of cats, they can be noisy :thumbsup:
 
I have a question for the DIY speaker modifiers because it's something I've always wondered about. Have any of you ever modified speakers that you bought brand new, or would you ever consider doing that? I'm talking modifications that involve driver changes.
 
This thread needs to be studied in college psych 101 as an example of a futile attempt (by the OP) to herd a hoard of cats.
LOL seriously WTF.
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Seriously, WTF did you contribute here of any value with your sole comments? The OP never even asked a question, but did share his success, which was acknowledged by a few of us who don't own a cat. If it was a joke, then it's possible it wasn't that funny, or obvious.
 
I have a question for the DIY speaker modifiers because it's something I've always wondered about. Have any of you ever modified speakers that you bought brand new, or would you ever consider doing that? I'm talking modifications that involve driver changes.
Speaking for myself: the direct answer to your question is ABSOLUTELY NOT. Reasons: 1. warrantee issues 2. respect for the original designer 3. high probability that there is simply nothing to "fix" 4. even if I thought I was somehow improving the speaker I have no objective way to validate that, so I simply won't do it. I have a set of forte IVs that I bought from the original owner at a very good price. I would not dream of doing anything to them other than strictly necessary repair for decades. I guess that means I'm not actually a "DIY speaker modifier" at all. I just enjoy repairing and repurposing stuff that doesn't work right to begin with.
 
Speaking for myself: the direct answer to your question is ABSOLUTELY NOT. Reasons: 1. warrantee issues 2. respect for the original designer 3. high probability that there is simply nothing to "fix" 4. even if I thought I was somehow improving the speaker I have no objective way to validate that, so I simply won't do it. I have a set of forte IVs that I bought from the original owner at a very good price. I would not dream of doing anything to them other than strictly necessary repair for decades. I guess that means I'm not actually a "DIY speaker modifier" at all. I just enjoy repairing and repurposing stuff that doesn't work right to begin with.
If you buy new, you should at least wait until the Warranty Period has passed before you start digging into them.
I had Klipschorns and a Mono Center LaScala in different homes for 30 years before I refreshed the Capacitors (cheap/huge difference in micro detail).
Then, in 2007, I got the Home Theater and Pro Klipsch Professional disease from Roy Delgado, that I have still not recovered from!
 
I have a question for the DIY speaker modifiers because it's something I've always wondered about. Have any of you ever modified speakers that you bought brand new, or would you ever consider doing that? I'm talking modifications that involve driver changes.
I haven't changed drivers but I have installed modified crossovers in a new pair of RF-7s after I listened to them for a few months. Made a HUGE difference in taming the harshness that they were notorious for.
 
I haven't changed drivers but I have installed modified crossovers in a new pair of RF-7s after I listened to them for a few months. Made a HUGE difference in taming the harshness that they were notorious for.
DIY Modders are not limited by committee decisions, where the bean counters overrule the engineers with management decision makers who have no intimate product details.
Ownership, Priorities, decisions, and direct actions from wallet to hand are our path to personal Sonic Nirvana!
No one there to stop us (just WAF or GAF to merely slow us down).
 
Seriously, WTF did you contribute here of any value with your sole comments? The OP never even asked a question, but did share his success, which was acknowledged by a few of us who don't own a cat. If it was a joke, then it's possible it wasn't that funny, or obvious.
I'm sorry, you'll have to define the level of contribution required to meet your standards and what method you use to measure that, I'll endeavor to not cause you to feel the need to question my posts in the future.
 
I'm sorry, you'll have to define the level of contribution required to meet your standards and what method you use to measure that, I'll endeavor to not cause you to feel the need to question my posts in the future.
Added humor in AK threads is appreciated by some of us. Not so much by others. It takes some serious tact to avoid condemnation by some. Just roll with it. :thumbsup:
 
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DIY Modders are not limited by committee decisions, where the bean counters overrule the engineers with management decision makers who have no intimate product details.
Ownership, Priorities, decisions, and direct actions from wallet to hand are our path to personal Sonic Nirvana!
No one there to stop us (just WAF or GAF to merely slow us down).
In this particular instance it probably would have added a dollar (maybe less) to the cost of the crossover.
 
Added humor in AK threads is appreciated by some of us. Not so much by others. It takes some serious tact to avoid condemnation by some. Just roll with it. :thumbsup:
"tact to avoid condemnation?" How much tact is there when using WTF in the sentence? I just responded In Like KIND, nothing more. Unherbed cats and their owners are alive and well despite all this.
 
In this particular instance it probably would have added a dollar (maybe less) to the cost of the crossover.
If you look at all the drop testing that Klipsch did on the Heresy box, when a new K-700 horn was re-tooled, I suspect that they also had the rest of the drivers in the box too, to make it more of a Real-World quality test of the mechanical integrity of the new castings.
On a similar note, PWK's company used only 4 screws on the K-22 woofer, cutting down parts and labor in half (with 4 extra blank holes in the woofer. This because only the K-42 Pro woofers had big Magnets and mass that required all 8, heavier screws to be used.
I'm guessing they did a similar drop test. Maybe Gary Gillum or Jim Hunter would know for sure.
Point is, pinching production Pennies (or Dollars) is OK, as long as the results are inconsequential to the customer's satisfaction, however that may be defined.
 
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