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Electro-voice crossover question for EV-4

mdye

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Does anyone happen to have a schematic for the crossover used in the E-V Four speakers, or happen to know the crossover points? I've scoured the internet and can't find anything. I'm wondering if any Four owners out there have already figured this out in the absence of available literature...

Thanks!
 
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kirk57, those online EV data sheets are very helpful, but the one you've shown is the EV-4A, which does not include a schematic and is a different model. The one I just posted is the first time I've seen a data sheet for the EV-4, including a schematic.
 
Yeah, sorry about that. I wonder why EV only put *some* data sheets on that site...
 
Here is the second page. Please keep this thread going to show us what you have and what you are up to :).

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Against the suggestions of a number of folks (who all gave thoughtful, well intentioned advice), I took a chance on a pair of the E-V Fours as they were close by and they were cheap. I figured that they'd make a interesting project--I could learn a thing or two about older, efficient speakers and Electro-voice in general. Upon first listening to them, they more or less sounded exactly how some people described--unremarkable, distant, terrible high end, just not one of EV's greatest products.

I took another chance and decided that I'd invest a little bit more money and replace the capacitors and resistors in the crossover. I've recapped a number of speakers in the past with very noticeable (always for the better) results, but never have I heard such a night and day difference pre and post recap--the speakers now sound remarkably better. The original caps must have been way out of spec.

Although much, much better, their weak point does seem to be the cone tweeter (which I believe is what they called a TC-35...I can't tell by the numbers printed on the tweeters, but they look identical to pictures I've seen of the TC-35). I have been wanting to find out some more about the crossovers with the idea that maybe I would eventually replace the cone tweeter with something else...maybe a horn. As you stated previously, there are no data sheets for the E-V Four (although there are for the "Four A") anywhere on the web. I actually went ahead and purchased that data sheet from the seller on that auction site, and will post higher resolution scans of it when it arrives.

If anyone has any recommendations for a tweeter upgrade, please do share!

Appreciate the info shared thus far.
 
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Posting these in the media section as well, as it looks like the forums resize the images to a difficult-to-read size.

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Thanks for the improved scans. I think I can finally read the component values: caps - 0.5uF, (2@) 1.0uF, 4.0uF; resistors - 5.6 ohm, 10 ohm, 47 ohm; and coil - .56 mh. Is this correct? I have a pair of these that I have not gotten around to re-storing, and of surprising interest to me is that the horn device is actually the midrange! For some reason I had mistakenly assumed this was the tweeter, but not according to the text write-up.

Also am attaching pic of the TC-35 tweeter and a couple crossover pics.
EV-4 TC-35 tweet.jpg EV-4 crossover.jpg EV-4 crossover v2.jpg
 
Yep, those are the correct component values in the crossover (i just used a .47uf in place of the .50). The 10 ohm resistor to the tweeter is a bit of a mystery to me, as I definitely didn't have that on my mine. It looks like maybe one of your boards has it and one doesn't. I wonder if it's soldered inline somewhere.

Here is the datasheet for the TC35 tweeter: http://www.electrovoice.com/downloadfile.php?i=971140
 
Yeah, I've seen some pics of these x-o boards that show two resistors and others with three. Not sure what's responsible for the different versions.

Any noticeable improvement in HF performance after re-capping?

EV-4 x-o 1.jpg
 
I just picked up a pair of pristine EV-4 yesterday. First thing I noticed was the drivers are all mounted from the rear of the front baffle. The high frequencies are, IMHO, very directional. Unless I was at ear level and facing the speakers, the HF would seem to disappear. I am thinking the rear mounting of the tweeter creates a tunneling effect, making the HF very directions. Am considering removing the tweeter and remounting it on the front of the baffle. Am curious if anyone has done this before?
 
I had a pair of them a few years ago, they didn't seem particularly directional to me, but it's tough to remember that, they were very nice sounding. I did recap the crossovers. I would try front-mounting that tweeter but I'd recap first, it could be that it's just a weak capacitor. I was surprised to learn that the horn was actually the mid-range on them.
 
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