Floating record vertical turntable
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JURB
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I had a problem believing this thing would track right, as shown :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29948706/tt002.jpg
After giving it soem thought I think it might.
But does that make it a good idea ? I remember Sharp made a TT that played both sides without flipping. It literally only had a middle spindle type thing which left the record exposed, and the arm went through a track the turned it over and then the record reversed rotation. Now that was something, but does it make it a good idea ?
A know some of the old big laserdisks players had that abiity as well. However. having big soiund and woofers would then tax the error correction, not cause sonic difficulties.
Vertical TTs were touted as keeping the dust off your records, b9t now you ot their lane in parallel with the woofers unles you have an unusual setup. (which I always have because I put speakers at NOT equidistand piints from the corners. Like a catty corner arraingemen. this reduced resonance in soem rooms, in fact most I would say. The corners are the worst place for speakers except if they are built for it. (Roy F. Allison did that)
At any rate, I don't want to put thes things down, but I do cinsidr them a novelty. give me an old Dual 1229 with a wood base and good suspension any day. In fact if I had any really good vinyl left I would persue getting one, and they DO play on their side if the arm is set right. The suspension is not made for it though so it is just a cool thing to do at parties. And unless you leave it tilt jus a bit you'l have top find a way to hld the record down.
I just fixed a vertical linear tracker not long ago, and it is cool. But all I can say is keep the speakers well away from it. Also, that thing HELD the record down on the paltter, so that owuld reduce the problems, and though not that heavy it was nice, die cast and machined, not stamped like some.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29948706/tt002.jpg
After giving it soem thought I think it might.
But does that make it a good idea ? I remember Sharp made a TT that played both sides without flipping. It literally only had a middle spindle type thing which left the record exposed, and the arm went through a track the turned it over and then the record reversed rotation. Now that was something, but does it make it a good idea ?
A know some of the old big laserdisks players had that abiity as well. However. having big soiund and woofers would then tax the error correction, not cause sonic difficulties.
Vertical TTs were touted as keeping the dust off your records, b9t now you ot their lane in parallel with the woofers unles you have an unusual setup. (which I always have because I put speakers at NOT equidistand piints from the corners. Like a catty corner arraingemen. this reduced resonance in soem rooms, in fact most I would say. The corners are the worst place for speakers except if they are built for it. (Roy F. Allison did that)
At any rate, I don't want to put thes things down, but I do cinsidr them a novelty. give me an old Dual 1229 with a wood base and good suspension any day. In fact if I had any really good vinyl left I would persue getting one, and they DO play on their side if the arm is set right. The suspension is not made for it though so it is just a cool thing to do at parties. And unless you leave it tilt jus a bit you'l have top find a way to hld the record down.
I just fixed a vertical linear tracker not long ago, and it is cool. But all I can say is keep the speakers well away from it. Also, that thing HELD the record down on the paltter, so that owuld reduce the problems, and though not that heavy it was nice, die cast and machined, not stamped like some.
stan65cutlas
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tyeeslayer
Super Member
No dust cover.....no dice.
JoeESP9
ESL's & tubes since 83
I remove the dust cover on my VPI when playing LP's. Dust covers resonate.
PennyRider
New Member
How are they going to control anti-skating when the full weight of the tonearm is being pulled by gravity whilst playing the beginning and end tracks?
I think it's a bleeding daft invention. Crosley Radio will buy their stock during the receivership sale and rebrand as theirs for £99.
I think it's a bleeding daft invention. Crosley Radio will buy their stock during the receivership sale and rebrand as theirs for £99.
Hummm i've seen this before... 
We need to get one in the hands of an AK member, I know I posted the videos of this unit a few weeks back... I really want to know how this guy holds up. The design is nice to look at, but the added speakers are a huge turn off for me.
Nonetheless, i have a nice open spot on my 2nd shelf on my rack that it would fit nicely, and would match my rack.
If anyone picks one up, we would love some actual feed back.
Regards,
John
We need to get one in the hands of an AK member, I know I posted the videos of this unit a few weeks back... I really want to know how this guy holds up. The design is nice to look at, but the added speakers are a huge turn off for me.
Nonetheless, i have a nice open spot on my 2nd shelf on my rack that it would fit nicely, and would match my rack.
If anyone picks one up, we would love some actual feed back.
Regards,
John
SkinnyPete
New Member
I'm curious if anyone has had the pleasure or displeasure of using one of these yet. I'm looking to upgrade from my Stanton t.80 and I thought while this doesn't play 78 rpm records it looked nice and had quality but i'm concerned about dropping $400 on something that "might be a good idea" I'd rather be sure so if anyone had had a chance to use this yet please speak out and apply your thoughts.
JoeESP9
ESL's & tubes since 83
Are you looking for an all in one or just a TT?
All in one? that certainly looks better than a Crosley. However, mounting the tonearm to the same container as the speakers says a lot about the builder designer's lack of knowledge about TT's. IOW, that's a bad idea.
Just a TT. I'd buy a maxed out U-Turn.
It does look good for someone who is more concerned with looks than sound.
All in one? that certainly looks better than a Crosley. However, mounting the tonearm to the same container as the speakers says a lot about the builder designer's lack of knowledge about TT's. IOW, that's a bad idea.
Just a TT. I'd buy a maxed out U-Turn.
It does look good for someone who is more concerned with looks than sound.
restorer-john
Addicted Member
The vertical Sharps/Optonicas were very cool. They sounded like ass (IMO), but could track anything, even shockingly warped records that a normal tonearm couldn't. A combination of a very short linear tracking arm, spring set VTF and ultra low all up moving mass. The carts were mostly AT modified dual magnet jobs tracking at 1.25-1.5 grams, often with IR emitter/detectors gaps for track programming. They also used the same basic design in the drawer loading bi-directional programmable turntables sold in midi systems. They used two linear tracking arms, one on either side of the record, a central rubber coated record-label-sized platter (driven by a small DC servo motor via belt to the larger outside diameter) and a similar clamp/puck arrangement to a CD player. The motor of course was reversible to play either side.
I have several I kept for curiosities sake. They are fun to play with (less fun to fix)
When suitably serviced and all the glides lubricated for the linear tracking arm and the main bearing packed with a viscous oil (they dry out), the speed calibrated carefully for each direction and the tracking gain carefully tweaked along with the offset of the optical sensor, they offer an amazingly user friendly turntable. I used to pick them up for free as the belt was a nightmare for techs to replace and they were simply thrown out.
I have several I kept for curiosities sake. They are fun to play with (less fun to fix)
When suitably serviced and all the glides lubricated for the linear tracking arm and the main bearing packed with a viscous oil (they dry out), the speed calibrated carefully for each direction and the tracking gain carefully tweaked along with the offset of the optical sensor, they offer an amazingly user friendly turntable. I used to pick them up for free as the belt was a nightmare for techs to replace and they were simply thrown out.
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