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Going Digital!

So hows bout it? Did you order yet?

Not yet, I was contemplating a different direction in my system. Mainly, a DAC-Preamp like the Mytek or Benchmark DAC2, coupled with a class D amp. Trying to downsize the footprint of my system in my room.
I think I've decided against that route though.
Still enjoying this thread...
 
Here's something that I've been using to assist me in narrowing down USBs to audition:

http://www.nordost.com/images/review-images/review-pdf/HFN_USB Cable GT July.pdf

So while some still claim they only collect the data, and offer 1s and 0s, it seems as if others can actually hear said sonic signatures of said cables - I know that I can, once again for me......., I'm looking to obtain the best match sonically to my entire system, so once again my intent is to borrow everything I can between $100 - $750 and tap out there.

But from what I can tell right now, it has to consist of either a purer form of straight Silver or Silver plated Copper, as Copper would as Byron pointed out awhile ago be sonically to much of a good thing, yet should fit perfectly into systems that are slightly right of neutral sound wise and alter the overall balance enough to offset things for the better.

Cables - Cartridges and Tubes only come in 3 flavors - warm - neutral and analytical, so select your poison very carefully before spending big lumps of cash on any of them.

The Quest continues..........
 
Brotha B and others, as an avid Tweaker sort whom heard the differences clearly that anything that has entered my room or placed within my system does good, bad or indifferently, I've to stay on you guys of the importances of properly isolation each component from its surroundings as a means of controlling resonance properties from affecting the delicate nature of the notes themselves - and remembering how B you mentioned those Black Items awhile back, I felt you might be interested in this review:

http://www.hifi-advice.com/Mad-Scientist-BlackPods-review.html

And for the naysayers - keep it moving, there's nothing for you to see here, and if your system isn't resolving enough to hear what works to begin with?, please don't hate on those of us whom have the abilities to do so.

Guys.........., once again think about how much you've invested in your system........., then think very very very carefully about those 20 - 50 cent footers supporting your Source - Pre/Power Amps - Integrated's and tell me honestly you believe that you're getting the best from them?, come on I dare you

Peace,
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Mi Bro.....thanks for pointing out the Mad Scientist tweaks...they look interesting, and price worthy. Don't you have those Symposium Acoustic roller blocks?

Bro...trust me. Get a very nice USB, like the Silver Starlight 7, and let your very best cable be the RCA into your amp. You will be floored! I'm in love with the Silver Eclipes 7....yeah I know it's a $700 interconnect, but I'm rolling in musicality, romance, dynamics and hurt for nothing with the Micro! That cable is bad, you hear me?!

I think some place up the road some cat with bad knees told me buy it right, you buy it once! Well...that's some great advice! So bro...take your own advice...buy it right.
 
Mi Bro.....thanks for pointing out the Mad Scientist tweaks...they look interesting, and price worthy. Don't you have those Symposium Acoustic roller blocks?

Bro...trust me. Get a very nice USB, like the Silver Starlight 7, and let your very best cable be the RCA into your amp. You will be floored! I'm in love with the Silver Eclipes 7....yeah I know it's a $700 interconnect, but I'm rolling in musicality, romance, dynamics and hurt for nothing with the Micro! That cable is bad, you hear me?!

I think some place up the road some cat with bad knees told me buy it right, you buy it once! Well...that's some great advice! So bro...take your own advice...buy it right.

Hey little Brotha,

You know what?, I do trust you and shall invest accordingly. As it does make perfect sense to buy into cabling designs which have proven track records as being both well made and musical to boot. And if nothing else.........., then I'd always borrow upwards to 4 ICs to get a feel for what's what, including said WW Silver Ecplise RCAs.

I'm not afraid to spend the bread where needed, it's just a matter of knowing which brands are capable of offering better overall performance then others, as I'm aware of exotic brands like Argento/Organic Cables and Jorma Designs, yet am not the sort that spends $2.500 on a 1m IC, as I'd rather invest that into my downloads instead........, for me it always comes back to the music collection first and foremost.

And lastly, your welcome for the tip on the Mad Scientist tweak, and I do use Symposium Acoustic Rollerblock and Shun Mook Super Diamond Resonators as my primary footers and wouldn't be without them. Next stop.........., the Atomic Audio Labs Mac Mini Platform and I'm done.

Peace little Brotha, catch up with you on the flip side.
 
Hi Brotha B/Fellas,

Said quest continues with the USB cables, as I chose to put the ICs into isolation for a day or two while I narrow down my options here once and for all, while I'd be one of the first to acknowledge that system synergy plays a vital role in long term enjoyment of ones abilities to get beyond the need to move components as quickly as they might change their underwear - but!!!!!, I strongly believe it always comes back to the flavor of cabling - tubes ( where it applies? ) and even a cartridge that dictates how said system is voiced for the better.

But yesterday's session also proved without a shadow of a doubt in my mind at least - pricey cables doesn't a system make - as the Black Cat Cable Silverstar USB cable ( 1.25m/$129 ) showed both the AudioQuest Diamond ( 1.5m/$695 ) and Synergistic Research USB Active SE ( 1m/$595 ) a clear pair of heels while smoking both of them at the things one would expect to to exceed in, like proper balancing of top to bottom frequency response being better defined, as well as a greater sense of refinement and/or the abilities to dig even deeper into the recording venue and bring about real changes in little shifts in dynamics and the actual flow of the notes themselves - well.........., it wasn't so.

The Silverstar offered a more realistic presentation to said notes whereas the other two merely tried to fool someone into thinking " don't you hear this or that detailing ", and it was clear that one could, yet it seems as if the cheaper cable had the ability to merely step aside and allow my emotions to kick in and become even more focused on how the music simply felt " right ", as if another 3 - 5 layers of music was residing right there to be released in a manner which had what I often refer to ask purity to said notes - where it drew my attention to the different shadings of timbre as related to any given instrument as if they were isolated from their own surroundings if you will - but not coming across as forced or articifically flavored with nutrasweet or worse.

Each strand could be heard/felt resonating around our room, and underpinning the notes in such a manner that simply grabs ones attention on how clearly things seem to float above the instruments behind or beside them as heard in classical concert venues at one of those rare halls that are renowned for their acoustically perfected surfaces that let notes be held/released with razor sharp quickness without smearing or altering the whole event and in doing so..........., it becomes all to clear that once again it's better to have a mature sounding cable design based upon how it's implemented as opposed to going after something merely based upon pricing and little battery type devices suspended from its side which in hindsight do what?.

I'll submit the ICs results probably by Wednesday, as well as an Italian and German USB cable that are due next week as well.

As I've mentioned to Byron plenty of times, I don't write as much as I once did because system wise I'm more then content, and have a clearer ideal of where I'd go if an item was to blow up tomorrow - so in that sense I've more or less learned pretty much all that I can, but this whole computer audio thing has me re-learning certain aspects with even greater interest - because in reality even the little things count as it relates to my audio journey which at some point, should prove that sometimes good sounding components are just that - good enough to stop spending money chasing that fake sense of the Abso!ute Sound........., when nothing's prefect, and then said question should be - which compromises can you live with?.

For me.........., the music is my quest, having a properly balanced system is in my mind merely a means of enhancing my listening experience and not the other way around.

Logic is!.

Until next week then,
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Mi Man! Cables are about the biggest mark up in audio! But I know I'm not telling you something new. And for sure, in this hobby, it's about what we are willing to spend. So I get it totally. I know what you say about the Black Cat is true, because I know you can hear, and MikeT has also confirmed it in one of his postings....so there is something to what you are saying.

I can't wait to see what interconnects you go with...that way you can get back to the music. Yeah....get some DSD128 up in there! That's where the magic is Mi Bro! :yes: Ya hear me!?

Truth be told, if it wasn't for DSD, I'd never would of purchased a DAC. Case in point....been listening to vinyl in my home theater after playing with the Micro DSD for about two months. I fully understand now, through hind sight, it was the analog sound I was hearing in DSD that captured me. Early on in my DSD listening I think I was in a little denial....didn't want to face the fact that what was going into the converter was coming out analog/vinyl sounding with all the same effects as a good record player and vinyl..but I can't deny it any more. You see, it's 1 bit is the closest thing to vinyl we have....PCM can't ever be as close to vinyl in bits nor sound...in fact it's no where near it...if a person can hear, he can tell the differnce. While Hi REZ PCM is really great it's still not doing for me what DSD does. Call me a fanatic, crazy, making this stuff up...but truth be told, I know I'm hearing what I hear. I just can get with the fellas that say PCM sounds better or those that say they sound the same...they can't hear due to not having a ear, or the gear ain't resolving. But any ways, I'm not here to bash...because For me..all I need is a great vinyl rig and a great DSD rig surrounded with great components and speakers. Lock me in a room with my favorite tunes...slide my tray of food in the slot at the bottom of the door....and I'm just fine, because as you say..in the end, at least for me..it's about the music. I can put on some Jazz, and be relaxed or listen to the talent, I can put on some soul, and think about the old days...I can put on rock and be back in the day....I can put on some classical and be moved by the peaks and valleys...and I can put on some gospel and get my praise on....it's all about the music, at its best.....for me..,that's vinyl/ DSD.
 
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Mi Man! Cables are about the biggest mark up in audio! But I know I'm not telling you something new. And for sure, in this hobby, it's about what we are willing to spend. So I get it totally. I know what you say about the Black Cat is true, because I know you can hear, and MikeT has also confirmed it in one of his postings....so there is something to what you are saying.

I can't wait to see what interconnects you go with...that way you can get back to the music. Yeah....get some DSD128 up in there! That's where the magic is Mi Bro! :yes: Ya hear me!?

Truth be told, if it wasn't for DSD, I'd never would of purchased a DAC. Case in point....been listening to vinyl in my home theater after playing with the Micro DSD for about two months. I fully understand now, through hind sight, it was the analog sound I was hearing in DSD that captured me. Early on in my DSD listening I think I was in a little denial....didn't want to face the fact that what was going into the converter was coming out analog/vinyl sounding with all the same effects as a good record player and vinyl..but I can't deny it any more. You see, it's 1 bit is the closest thing to vinyl we have....PCM can't ever be as close to vinyl in bits nor sound...in fact it's no where near it...if a person can hear, he can tell the differnce. While Hi REZ PCM is really great it's still not doing for me what DSD does. Call me a fanatic, crazy, making this stuff up...but truth be told, I know I'm hearing what I hear. I just can get with the fellas that say PCM sounds better or those that say they sound the same...they can't hear due to not having a ear, or the gear ain't resolving. But any ways, I'm not here to bash...because For me..all I need is a great vinyl rig and a great DSD rig surrounded with great components and speakers. Lock me in a room with my favorite tunes...slide my tray of food in the slot at the bottom of the door....and I'm just fine, because as you say..in the end, at least for me..it's about the music. I can put on some Jazz, and be relaxed or listen to the talent, I can put on some soul, and think about the old days...I can put on rock and be back in the day....I can put on some classical and be moved by the peaks and valleys...and I can put on some gospel and get my praise on....it's all about the music, at its best.....for me..,that's vinyl/ DSD.

Well preach on then Mi Brotha,

Shout it from the mountain top, 'cause I hear you loud and clear........,,and then some. As mentioned much earlier on in your thread I'm not making a single red cent to endorse these items in so much as trying to express my joy in knowing what's possible for what seems like the price of an entry level table like a Rega Planar 3 during my time in retail back in the early 80s, to my mind something's are simply more capable then others at getting the notes right - and no, it's not in my head either, as I've sit through more listening sessions across the states and overseas then most and know that for a fact why imports have remained popular here in the states since the late 50s, it's because certain countries/cultures place more of an emphasis on getting the essential midrange area correctly balanced and/or accurate while some try to hard to stress the importance of high end detailing at the expense of texture or beauty as I often refer to them in the same passage.

Bro.........., as I often sit here thinking about all these cats I've known over the years with massive investments into their hardware side of the hobby, yet as I've peached earlier on in my life on various forums, it shall always remain about the music collection to me - now I ask each of you to gauge what I'm about to say very carefully without taking offense - but a person whom has let's say like $30.000 - $250.000 invested into their system, but a mere $1.700 worth of LPs or CDs can't be seen in my eyes as having their priorities straight to begin with........., as one should always have more invested on their software, am I wrong to have said belief?, I thought not.

But getting on with the task at hand........., it's merely a matter of weighing ones options and realizing that in someways we tend to settle because of misconception based upon not knowing much about how to match components together to begin with........., I mean many simply go by a class rating system from one of the audio magazines without getting out to hear said pieces with their own ears, yet wonder where they went wrong?, I often take into account the system as heard before me either at a shop or someone's home and judge it as a collective whole from the Source to the cabling used to make or break said synergy - and once again........, you know my word " either it clicks, or it doesn't? ".

Clicking to me means very simply............, it's doing everything as it should that's important to me when it comes to reproducing the proper balance - transparency - neutrality - texture - timbre - refinement - beauty and even impact and dynamic peaks when items are voiced correctly, it's not rocket science, in so much as having one of those flashback moments like when we were youngsters and sit there during family get togethers and laughing, playing and dancing to the music because during those times of innocence music or reading/buying comic books and jamming to the beat, or trying to work on our game to get enough courage to approach that cetain young lady in our life's was all we had, but often memories of said moments live on for both of us it seems through the music that was available at the time - Music, not Hi-Fi is what makes us all remember those times when Mom or Dad were in home, as opposed to single Mom's overlooking what their bad ass sons are doing when selling drugs to their childhood friends Mother or Sibling because of greed or ignorance - when sitting down to remember the good times should be enough to keep one focused on their future along with assistance of a strong women that doesn't allow them/us to lose sight on greater things or blessings to come.

As the saying goes......., it's music that causes us to laugh, dance, play, sit , remember and even cry - is it not?. Listening to boxes/components will never allow anyone to " just live ".

Life in itself isn't about compromises, yet we do everyday by not buying what's needed for ourselves or our systems as we tend to worry to much about what the Olde lady might say............, well, as you've stated mine is not so much trained, as merely just being supportive in my/our shared passion and I'm able to spend it where I'd like, yet am always aware of my responsibility to provided for the family first - but never at the approval of anyone, my money........., my rules, lest one selects to keep on letting women wear the pants, which I'm more of the sort whom loves to see them in dresses, but I'm getting off track, so let me step by inside my skin and say farewell before it gets rough up in here.

Laugh guys..........., it's all crap, live your life's as you see fit?, but don't forget to buy music of different genres and grow a little, while never forgetting how to laugh at ourselves and let go of BS!, men die from stress all to easily as it is.

:smoke: ( just chilling, and enjoyin' da tunes man ).
 
* Update Alert. Let's not allow this topic to die, I've far to much more to learn and share while doing so.


Okay Brotha B/Guys,

I've just finished a 10 hour long listening sessions to a few IC cable I got in via the Cable Company as a means of adding a survey, and am ready to report my findings as how these match up with the iFi Audio Micro iDSD DAC/iUSB Power as rendered through my system.

I narrowed my selection down to ICs ranging between $300 - $1.000, as I've always felt these were the safer prices to start ones quest at/around, much like decent power cords in my mind have always been the ones $350/2m and upwards to $900, as I started to feel that anything beyond these prices were overkill in all but the more expensive systems which themselves start costing nearly $26.000 and over, which then justifies said increases during my years in audio retailing as well as equipment buyer at said time, and now as a music lover with High-end aspirations if you will.

(1) Dynamique Audio Tempest RCA

Made in England are Silver plated Copper starting at $290/1m and to my ears are extremely balanced cables with a sense of speed and Attack of notes, yet subtle enough as not to offend ones senses with an over warm presentation as some Ag plated Cu cables can, think late 90s Nordost cable to get an ideal of my point of reference. Surprisingly..........., this is an awesome sounding affordable cable more deserving of music lovers attention ( noticed, I've stated music lover and not detail freaks whom are more into Hi-Fi effects as that's totally opposite of Musicality ), highly recommended as quite possibly one of the best cheaper ICs I've heard since Alphacore/Goertz TQ2s or CRL Blue Note Series ICs mentioned below.

(2) Jorma Designs No. 3

Made in Denmark ( 99.9999% Pure Copper ) $950/1m. These as hear in tandem with the Wireworld Starlight 7 and Ultraviolet made for a beautiful sound, and along with the CRL ( Cable Research Lab Blue Note and Copper Series ICs ) among the very best I've heard from pure copper conductor based cables to date, these seem to step aside in a very uncanny manner which allows the in theory ( reality ) hybrid strands of each cable to compliment one another in a manner that's scary real, but call me biased to said matters of importances when it comes to forming synergy, and I'll raise my hand proudly within seconds, I believe these along with said CRL's and the Organic Cables from Argento Cables have to be the most organic ( pun intended ) yet responsive in that open top end with natural midrange and very very very accurate bass that it's sad more aren't aware of any of these brands, and if they are?, I don't see much discussion on them outside of reviews. As Byron might've recalled me saying awhile back upon first chance with said CRLs - Copper done right............., is a blessing and then some.

(3) Synergistic Research Atmosphere UEF ( Level 1 )

Made in USA $695/1m. I'm having trouble finding any information other then what's listed on the Cable Company as these having conductors based upon the Tricon wires ( which I've owned as far as their Phono-Cable which was Silver based ) so I'm to assume these are the same - as Byron also pointed out during a personal conversation pure silver can edge slightly towards to much information ( if there's such a term? ) as these are extremely linear where it counts, but seem to be on par with some of the Nordost cables I've heard since the late 90s as mentioned elsewhere, but aren't as lean or threadbare if you will........, overall I'd have to say these are more system dependent then the options mentioned above, but I'd think that would fit perfectly into a system that's in need of better transparency and/ or mid to upper midrange detailing abilities enhanced somewhat.

I'm going to end it here, as I'm awaiting a USB Cable from Italy that was due today, but forgotten to be dropped off by the postal courier as well as two USB designs from CRL which I've been eagerly waiting for their design team to get around to finalizing..........., Wow, talk about guns times ahead, and here I'm not even listening to DSD 128' man it's going to be many sleepless nights in my nights ahead, but you know what?, for the sake of music, I'm more then up to the task.

Watch this space......., and while doing so - stay warm and be safe if you've to leave home, we need you all to be around for years and years to come.

Peace.
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Thanks for the up date, Bro! Nice to have some cable reviews for those who are thinking about upgrading. Might want to mention your gear list as well and perhaps the overal flavor of your rig as it might be good for those who are seriously looking to match a certain sound with a certain component. I have a pair of synergistic research interconnects on the system in the wife's office...and for the life of me, I can't figure out why synergistic research makes it so difficult to know what's in their cables! I searched high and low and drew a blank each time....I then sent them a letter and they won't answer....I finnally gave up...heck man. They must want to keep their stuff secret!

Bro....I finally got a chance to get to my dealers today to return all his cabling to him. As you know, he wanted all his back as they where all his demo cables, well broken in. I tried my best to keep the demo's but my dealer was having none of it. He didn't want to go through the trouble of breaking in new cables. So today, I put spanking new ones in...the same types as I returned...so now the system has to go through the motions....I hear a little grain as the cables have a good 3 hour on them. I hate running in new cables.:no:

But, never the less....I have some great news to report. My dealer decided to set up his Harmon Kardon Citation II. Oh what a wonderful power amp! The front end was one of his New Bel Canto preamps and one of Bel Canto new DAC. And of course my dealer...all 77 years of him loves those huge Golden Ear speakers. $5k a pair. I must say...tho we listened in 192, it was really sounding nice! That Bel Canto DAC got my attention. But that Citation got my attention more than anything....yeah it do. I told him if he sells it, I got first shot of refusal.

In A Minute Bro....I got Lee Morgan's "All the Way" coming through the Micro...yes DSD on the fly!
 
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Thanks for the up date, Bro! Nice to have some cable reviews for those who are thinking about upgrading. Might want to mention your gear list as well and perhaps the overal flavor of your rig as it might be good for those who are seriously looking to match a certain sound with a certain component. I have a pair of synergistic research interconnects on the system in the wife's office...and for the life of me, I can't figure out why synergistic research makes it so difficult to know what's in their cables! I searched high and low and drew a blank each time....I then sent them a letter and they won't answer....I finnally gave up...heck man. They must want to keep their stuff secret!

Bro....I finally got a chance to get to my dealers today to return all his cabling to him. As you know, he wanted all his back as they where all his demo cables, well broken in. I tried my best to keep the demo's but my dealer was having none of it. He didn't want to go through the trouble of breaking in new cables. So today, I put spanking new ones in...the same types as I returned...so now the system has to go through the motions....I hear a little grain as the cables have a good 3 hour on them. I hate running in new cables.:no:

But, never the less....I have some great news to report. My dealer decided to set up his Harmon Kardon Citation II. Oh what a wonderful power amp! The front end was one of his New Bel Canto preamps and one of Bel Canto new DAC. And of course my dealer...all 77 years of him loves those huge Golden Ear speakers. $5k a pair. I must say...tho we listened in 192, it was really sounding nice! That Bel Canto DAC got my attention. But that Citation got my attention more than anything....yeah it do. I told him if he sells it, I got first shot of refusal.

In A Minute Bro....I got Lee Morgan's "All the Way" coming through the Micro...yes DSD on the fly!


Brotha B,

You're more then welcome, and I shall do as you've asked in regards to sharing my preferences as they relate to sonics, as someone once accused me of liking a harder hitting or slightly analytical sound - I'd have to say far from it, as friends and I used to travel state to state as a means of hearing a great deal of equipment that has or hasn't been reviewed since 1986, until 2013 when it became harder for me to be mobile due to extreme flare ups of gout which have gotten worser since June 10th of 2014, to the point I'm more or less housebound, but we can get to that story another day.

I've mentioned the above merely to point out that I've set hours and auditioned stuff from the likes of Audio Tekne ( Japan ) - Constellation Audio - Audio Research ( 1985/95 when to my ears it sounded better then it does today ) - Conrad-Johnson ( same story ) - Shindo Labs - Leben - Line Magnetic Audio - DeVore Fidelity - WTL - EMT and Dynavector ( Cartridges which I simply adore ) - Sound Labs - Wadia - Symphonic Line - Densen - Lavardin - Norman - Magico - Rockport - Verity Audio - Krell ( the older truer versions circa 1985/99 ) - Sugden - Audio Physics - CAL - AudioMat as well as what seems like a few hundred more.

Yet to my mind........, the line that struck me as the most " Human " sounding of all of the amplification I've heard to date starting back as far as 1982 has to be the Shindo Labs stuff, and while I've heard about a few talking about it obscures the musical notes, I beg to differ and would've to ask what was the surrounding cast?, because in hindsight much like the better made/sounding components ever made, each consist of like minded parts around them that form a very strong bond or better put sense of Synergy that when heard as a tandem..........., one gets the connection as to why these are often termed together more so then not, so in that sense it should speak to what I enjoy listen too/for!, I'm first and foremost about Synergy - after that I tend to prefer a lush sounding presentation similar to what Byron calls an Olde School Classic type signature if you will - yet one that walks that very fine and rare line between once again refinement - beauty - tonality, but not at the expense of accuracy - but to me tube gear should be made to sound like tubes as opposed to solid state for the sake of having greater control over the bass drivers in ones massively inefficient speakers, where beauty should be what greets ones ear upon entering someone's home where as soon a sense of love and peace fills the entire space and you find yourself at ease within 5 minutes where you fall asleep while having said wonderful music wash over your body as if to cleanse it.

That's what I've heard from friends of mine whom have visited our home since 2006 until this date, it's not a matter of bragging, no far from it, it's a matter of emphasizing upon the years taken to correct my mistakes earlier on in life, and more importantly how to go about correcting them, at least in my mind as to know what sounded truer to the source then anything that I've owned/sold earlier on.

Balance - Transparency and Neutrality are my main goals in assembling a system that I feel goes beyond stereotyping and plays any given genre of music equally as well, unlike some systems that are great at playing something as system as a jazz trio, or girl with guitar type act.........., but put something on it that's more complex, like say an Ornette Coleman LP/CD/Download and watch as the speakers look around the room asking one another what's next?, and as if they're ready to thrown themselves out of the window in an attempt to escape embarrassment, yet such is life.

I don't do overly cuddly type systems, that would've me asking the wife for a pillow and blanket within 2 minutes of cutting the system on........., no - it has to smack my ass across the face and stand atop the dinning room table and saying gently

" pay attention to how the notes underpin one another - how the pitch of any given instrument just sounds correct ", that's my flavor/sound, one that digs deep into the pits or earlier on grooves and caught my imagination and gave me cause to live - love - laugh and even cry while listening to its sense of beauty.

Anyways, as it would be rather time consuming for me to write the contents of my system here, I'm merely going to cut and paste my system as it stands as listed over on Audio Asylum in their inmate section that hasn't been changed lately to show the newer cables I've added to the stash - but the system remains more or less as it has since 2012 with the exception being the iFi products and cables, anyways hers more insight into my flavors or biases if you will..........., be gentle in the way you view said information or me, as always.........., sound is in itself an individual concept at best:

http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/10562.html

As it states........., Music Matters/H'ear ( as in I can Hear w/. My ear, get it? ).

Anyways.........., this is who I am, and shall remain to be until the Creator calls me home, where I pray it's Air Conditioned, as it's a lie about Blacks liking heat.

And Byron............., don't think that I missed the part about you digging those Olde school HK Citation IIs, my eyes are tied and all, but I caught that.

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Bro...in your travels of life you've heard lots of gear...as many of us here. We all have different taste as well as different levels of passion for the hobby. But I cant stress enough that the world has a lot to offer in way of audio components. We decide accordingly as our pocket book as well as what we like by differnt factors, whatever they may be. But again, this isn't just a UNited States or Japan, or even England market only....its a global market these days and many countries like China can put out gear with the best of them. But as I stated above...whatever our factors are, we decide based on what that may be.

That brings me to the iFI products. oh what a great product! I have two primary audio dealers here in St. Louis...one a 77 year old mad scientist. And the other a 60 year old preacher. Both are great guys. The 60 year old preacher is having a DAC party....some nice DACs are going to be there, and if I go I may just take the Micro to see how it stacks up!

But speaking of the Micro, it packs a wallop! This thing will do DSD 512. Not many DACs can do that...not even the most expensive DACs on the market can do that. I've only gone as high as 128. I do have a new more powerful processor in my future....DSD takes a good processor chip to run smoothly, and the Micro with its double core Burr Brown chip is an outstanding DAC. I really haven't found a flaw in it, and with all the information out there concerning DSD....(and I can say now with certainty after hearing the Bel Canton do hi REZ PCM,) I can't see why one will want to throw away good money on a CDP! I don't care what the excuse is, it's still foolish. Why spend $1500 on a CDP when you can get a great DAC for less than $800 get a computer for $500 and some external HDD and you will be able to see further into the music than any CDP will let you. CD's aren't giving you all the information on a CD anyways....take one listen to a good DACs kit, and one will be convinced he really hasn't hear all that's on a CD ever!

But may I take back something I said above? I said I haven't found a flaw in it...well, I'd like to take that back. The flaw is a DAC with its audio software will spoil you more so than a CDP. You can set the software to play random non stop till you music library is completed.You can set it with these beautiful cross fades..so you can literally play music non stop for days if ones collection is huge enough. That's the only flaw. I mean, you'd hear stuff you haven't played in years .

So now, I'm running in the Wireworld cables with the Micro. If any one is interested in my gear list, it's in the signature. Primary components are German designed while manufactured in China. Speakers are German Designed and built in Germany. German gear is usually transparent, acurate and neutral sounding with crisp hi frequencies, warm fleshed out mids, and a very natural bass. has excellent staging, and speakers disperse a wide and open sound so no toe in is needed. I have all copper interconnects and speaker cables and power cords as system needed no silver. The tubed gear is not classic sounding but neither SS. Tube warmth has a nice texture with deep flesh like tones. The minute you hear it, you know it's tubes. There are layers of sound...depth and staging create a very nice venue.

The Micro is analog sounding and more on the warmer side of things, so I read before my purchase. After purchase and fully run in, and with the synergy it created with my tube gear the sound became classic tubes. And this was all with the stock cables that came with the micro. I knew I had to add much better cables for the Micro that added a little life to the micro's sound. Don't get me wrong here....if my system wouldn't have been neutral, but to the right of neutral with titled up highs and a more fleshed out mid section, I'd probably not added silver as the Micro's warm nature and sound would have been more balanced out to a more neutral sound but that's not the case here.

The WireWorld cables added what I needed. All 3 cables from the computer to the PSU, and from PSU to the DAC, and from the DAC to the computer are all silver over copper.The USB cable from the computer to the PSU The Ultraviolet 7, is less than a $100 dollars. It has the least amount of silver, but enough to make a differnce. The second USB cable from PSU to the DAC, the Starlight 7 cost about $100 and has more silver than the previous cable. Mind you this is a very good USB cable and lots of cats have it, including Billfort as well as Oscar. The 3 cable is an outstanding cable in my system...its a set of RCA's the WW Silver eclipse 7 and has the most silver...in fact its Crystal Silver over copper! So the cables act as a component them selves and all 3 together alow me to hear the richness and natural tones as they come out the speakers. Snap, attack, deep natural bass and wood tones from acoustic bass is all there....notes lingering in the air, and even some of the background noise heard from sounds in the background that's not suppose to be there. It's all there. This is what's working for me.

The goal od any system is to properly match the components to achieve the most pleasing sound you'd like to hear..for me it's about having a neutral, natural sound that's not boring, with snap when need be.

So if one is looking for a nice DAC...try the Micro!
 
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Little Brotha,

During my travels, I've learned to be open minded to diversity in components regardless of their place of origin - in my mind some countries merely specialize in certain aspects of musicality more so then others, case in point as you brought up CDPs, the best sounding ones I've heard to date were designed in France - here I'm talking YBA - Metronome and Micromega higher end products, many of which never made it stateside due to designers here stressing to their dealer network that demanded to be the only brand of players carried, or they would withdraw their entire inventory for said dealerships - weird one late is that one of my dealer associates mentioned they were no longer carrying Nordost, as the company doesn't wish to have its cabling loom tested side by side with other brands........., what's that about?, or they worried that listeners would find a cheaper cable more musically correct!, go figure.

As I recalled telling you awhile back, I no longer post as much as I did during the early years, where I'd could be found on forums in HK - Malaysia - England - Canada, as a means of learning more and more about imports, as I believe that to gain more insight into something coming from foreign shores, you've ask those from its place of origin, much like you'd ask an American about Maggie's, most at some point in their life's have set down to demo a pair - so in that sense why would I then ask an Asian about their sonic merits.

But in said period, I'd encounter 1 or 2 whom felt as if I was trying to steal their glory or spotlight if you will, and took offense to the American or Yankee whom had gained a few followers whom would write me personally asking for solid recommendations, as they understood my ears and trusted me with said recommendations - and more often then not have stayed in contact with me over the years, now that to me is what this should be all about..........., caring enough to share ones " truths " as they relate to worthwhile components that actually are capable of playing notes/tunes/music much much much better then some of the costlier items dealer would've us to believe are the ****..........., not i, my ears/senses tell me there's more to any of it then merely relying on ones past glories or reputation when their current lines have lost that sense of how does one put it " magic ".

Granted we all hear diffently - but that's a great thing, otherwise we'd all have the exact same systems throughout would we not?, and how boring would that be?, but there are moments in life where one stumbles upon something affordable that plays with the big boys at their own game........., and at times is actually more musical in ways that should count to music lovers, more so then aspiring audiophile types whom merely like collecting every variant on this or that design before the previous version was fully broken in, it was out the door.

I believe in sharing my passion for the music side of this hobby, and then the equipment capable of playing it back properly to those in their late 20s, 30s and 40s, as anyone at or over 50 should've it all worked out by now - but those younger cats need better guidelines based upon hard cold facts of reality based then upon ones whom have heard the majority of the stuff out there, and have a better feel for what's worthy of educating them on as a means of making wise investments in their systems as well as themselves - as great sound in ones home creates a sense of peace and harmony where very little else matters except you're happy to run home after work instead of being in the streets doing dumb ****, and tell your girlfriends or wives I'm in home, or would you rather I be wasting money and time elsewhere?, this is a justified reason for owning a nice system........., this is the reason I'm here, to add insight/logic to those few that need the truth, based once again upon ones experiences as opposed to relying on rating in some magazine - hell I put my last Hi-Fi + down in 2010, as I has felt I had reached a point where I knew enough to build a system that spoke volumes to my inner being in such a manner I no longer wished to buy this or that month after month and take time understanding what I had before me, and then find ways to make it sound more musical, if there's such a thing?.

Byron you've been one of the bright spots in my life, as our Brotherhood reached deeper then some oceans on Mother Earth, as much like my wife you try to instill a belief in humanity and self that's refreshing to the soul, and no matter where life takes us.........., that Brotherhood shall always be close at hand and heartfelt.

So as Mi Brotha has said..........., the iFi products as well as the best sounding/matched cables for your system are vital, lest you enjoy buying new **** every 4 - 9 months?, settle into your system, give it time to show you it's worth........., but more importantly get out and listen to pieces whenever possible?, as buying blind in some cases, isn't wise.

And one of the main advantages us older cats have over you young'ens is a keener sense of logic - wisdom - experience and earned time on the Planet.........., making sensible choices leads to a long life in itself, where ignorance can only lead to an early death, or a life of regret that you didn't select the Red Pill offered in the Matrix.

I'll take reality every time.........., those that chose to dream?, dream on.

And, yes I'm aware if what all off topic, so sue me for being a tad bit mouthy with Ya.

Take care guys.
O_o scar the Grouch ( well, not really ).
 
Bro....I know we are off topic, but I won't take you to court over it...but ahhh...ima get you for all that sappy talk.....I told you bout that with you and Art...now you starting with me...yeah, ima getcha Ya hear me!

I'm running in my new cables now. As mentioned before I've against my will....returned all the demo's because my dealer wanted them back. He took the time to run them in. So I got spanking brand new ones yesterday...so I've a set back in my listening as they run in. But I'm hearing a difference already as they have about 6 hours on them. Not as open as the ones I returned..but better than yesterday. The combination of the cables...2 USB's and one hell of a RCA cable...all Wireworld, brings a certain naturalness and richness to what the Micro is doing. It's all there. Nothing over the top...nothing to boomy. And nothing strained or recessed. All I need now is time.....time will run them in and im all set.

Lots of cables out there to pick from...I wouldn't settle for nice components and use cheap cabling. The IFi Micro and PSU is such a nice combination, it affords one purchase cables to unlock the goods inside..just like all components. As stated before In other post...there is nothing Micro about the iFI sept the size. It's been compared favorably to the Hugo DAC as well and in many cases, sounding better than the Hugo...but that's not the point...the point in comparison to the Micro is the price! The Micro is $499.. The PSU for the Micro is $199... While the Hugo last I checked was $2499 .
 
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Bro....I know we are off topic, but I won't take you to court over it...but ahhh...ima get you for all that sappy talk.....I told you bout that with you and Art...now you starting with me...yeah, ima getcha Ya hear me!

I'm running in my new cables now. As mentioned before I've against my will....returned all the demo's because my dealer wanted them back. He took the time to run them in. So I got spanking brand new ones yesterday...so I've a set back in my listening as they run in. But I'm hearing a difference already as they have about 6 hours on them. Not as open as the ones I returned..but better than yesterday. The combination of the cables...2 USB's and one hell of a RCA cable...all Wireworld, brings a certain naturalness and richness to what the Micro is doing. It's all there. Nothing over the top...nothing to boomy. And nothing strained or recessed. All I need now is time.....time will run them in and im all set.

Lots of cables out there to pick from...I wouldn't settle for nice components and use cheap cabling. The IFi Micro and PSU is such a nice combination, it affords one purchase cables to unlock the goods inside..just like all components. As stated before In other post...there is nothing Micro about the iFI sept the size. It's been compared favorably to the Hugo DAC as well and in many cases, sounding better than the Hugo...but that's not the point...the point in comparison to the Micro is the price! The Micro is $499.. The PSU for the Micro is $199... While the Hugo last I checked was $1500 or better.

Little Brotha,

I know, I know, I shouldn't be talking all that brotherly love shuff, yet it's merely because you've shared something deeper with me called " God ", and there are simply times when the angry me has to come up for air and just breath, you and Michelle have taught me to ease up, lest my high blood pressure pills not have an effect and I check out due to added imagined stress that can be easily avoided.

But I've to say that you were totally wrong on one point " not buying into import USB Cables and sticking with tired and true companies " as the Neutral Cable usb from Italy is seriously taking on all comers straight out of the box cold.

* News Flash..........., as I've been listening to this unknown USB Cables that was meant to be imported by THM Imports before things feel apart, I've to say that if any of you're looking into either Copper or Silver Plated Copper ICs - AC Cords or said USB Cables and wish to hear deeper into your recordings?, then you owe it to yourself to pursue these................, my WW Starlight 7 has been sold to a friend after only having their wonderfully little balanced standard USB ( the Blue one ) in my system for just an hour now, not that I'm the type that believes in going through cables, but once I've heard something that easily surpasses something else within said time, more often then now the one that has been bettered no longer has a home, as I'm not the hoarder type in the least, but cabling to me is once again the means of finalizing the voicing process of ones system, and when it clicks.........., it clicks, but if one is willing to venture outwards and sample various makes, then how would one know of said possibilities?, this in tandem with the Black Cat Cable USB as placed between the iUSB and Mac Mini and this between said IUSB and iDSD is the shite!, system and cable wise, I'm done.

Yes.........., you heard it here first.

While some don't hear cables I guess as we do, and while some tend to believe USB Cables only do 1s and 0s..........., I say to them BS!, I'm hearing layers removed, and no it's not in my head, it's just a matter of where ones attention span lies - I focus in on the pitch and timbre of instruments as heard in live venues and try my best to mimic that exact sound in home reproduction as best I can - and either it sounds better, or its outta here within 24 hours, homey don't play that.

Yet, it's upon others to read between the lines and figure out what we are both getting at............, because once again investment wise, you can't get this type of sound from any $1.000 CD Player or Turntable that I'm aware of, and I've heard a lot of both.

But allow me to get back to the tunes..........., as I'm vibing big time, and have to force myself away just long enough to respond to your thread, but as always, I'm watching........., O_oh.
 
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I've been one of the beneficiaries of Oscar's largesse so I'll chime in a bit here. He sent the Straightwire USB-link cable to me In comparison to the stock iFi cable there is a difference to my ears anyway. I've been comparing the Straightwire to the original iFi cable for the testing. One of Oscar's posts on AK describes how he listens to the bass, especially in a Jazz context, I'll use Monty Alexander's version of I've Got You Under My Skin from the Echoes Of Jilly's album as an example. Monty is on piano with Troy Davis on drums & John Patituci on bass. The arrangement for the head is Latin for the verses & swing for the bridge. John's lines seem more solid with the Straightwire, the presence, impact & pacing more "there". There are a couple places in the bridge where John is doing triplet grace notes. They are clearer with the SW. During the verses the Troy is doing mostly high hat, snare & bass drum. When he does some open to closed hits on the h.h. it can sound a little like that's being run through a phase shifter with the stock cable - much less so with the SW. He goes to the ride cymbal on the bridge section & you can hear it "peeking around" the piano, which is the dominant part of the mix, a little better with the SW. Another song I use for my tests is 10 Minutes Til The Savages Come from Manhattan Transfer's The Offbeat Of Avenues album. Again the (acoustic) bass has more authority with the SW. Not only does it sound deeper but you can hear the overtones a little better too, along with more solidity. On Natalie Cole's version of Route 66 the drummer's brushes have more snap & clarity. The bass has the same improvements mentioned in the last 2 examples (I'm not close to the CD to see the credits, but you know Ray Brown when you hear him). I'm pretty sure that's Monty Alexander on piano on that track too. Moving to other genres I listen to Sure Fire One by Liquid Soul to hear the multiple grace note bass drum hits in the instrumental section. Again, a little clearer with the SW. Lou Rawls' One Life To Live is another example where the bass is more defined & the recording as a whole is more focused. Keep in mind this is probably considered an entry level cable so some of the higher end ones Oscar and slippers-on are trying out now should produce even better results. Sorry for getting so long winded with the "brief" post.
 
We have BRO-MANCE breaking out :D

Just kidding guys - I just keep reading........

Good one Dave.

It's just my way of acknowledging our friendship, and my appreciation for someone whom keeps me focused.

It's all good.

:smoke:_o scar
 
I've been one of the beneficiaries of Oscar's largesse so I'll chime in a bit here. He sent the Straightwire USB-link cable to me In comparison to the stock iFi cable there is a difference to my ears anyway. I've been comparing the Straightwire to the original iFi cable for the testing. One of Oscar's posts on AK describes how he listens to the bass, especially in a Jazz context, I'll use Monty Alexander's version of I've Got You Under My Skin from the Echoes Of Jilly's album as an example. Monty is on piano with Troy Davis on drums & John Patituci on bass. The arrangement for the head is Latin for the verses & swing for the bridge. John's lines seem more solid with the Straightwire, the presence, impact & pacing more "there". There are a couple places in the bridge where John is doing triplet grace notes. They are clearer with the SW. During the verses the Troy is doing mostly high hat, snare & bass drum. When he does some open to closed hits on the h.h. it can sound a little like that's being run through a phase shifter with the stock cable - much less so with the SW. He goes to the ride cymbal on the bridge section & you can hear it "peeking around" the piano, which is the dominant part of the mix, a little better with the SW. Another song I use for my tests is 10 Minutes Til The Savages Come from Manhattan Transfer's The Offbeat Of Avenues album. Again the (acoustic) bass has more authority with the SW. Not only does it sound deeper but you can hear the overtones a little better too, along with more solidity. On Natalie Cole's version of Route 66 the drummer's brushes have more snap & clarity. The bass has the same improvements mentioned in the last 2 examples (I'm not close to the CD to see the credits, but you know Ray Brown when you hear him). I'm pretty sure that's Monty Alexander on piano on that track too. Moving to other genres I listen to Sure Fire One by Liquid Soul to hear the multiple grace note bass drum hits in the instrumental section. Again, a little clearer with the SW. Lou Rawls' One Life To Live is another example where the bass is more defined & the recording as a whole is more focused. Keep in mind this is probably considered an entry level cable so some of the higher end ones Oscar and slippers-on are trying out now should produce even better results. Sorry for getting so long winded with the "brief" post.

Hi Ben,

Thanks for taking the time to share your impressions, as many of us are in fact still learning about the importance of cabling looms, and of course there are times where one can spend more on a designer labeled item and end up wondering WFT?, in said case I'm very very very very very taken with a USB Cable that came in earlier today from Italy, that set me back $150 shipped, but as it stands, I'd stop here and be quite content.

In the end, it's always about which cable matches ones system/ears that matters most.

Take care young man.

_oh.
 
Oscar waxes poetically. If you ever met the man, you would know that is not an act. That is the way he is.

Wax on Oscar!!! :D But don't wax off :lmao:

Wax on, and on till the break of dawn, I might add. O_oh yeah!.

:yes:
 
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