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Going Digital!

Bro..after run in time on the iUSB3.0 I put the Jitterbug back in....got the USB cable from the 3.0 going right into the JB which is plugged into the computer.....what I was hearing at first, glossed over sound and loss of detail is all gone now. But what I did notice, the presentation is a tad warmer. Its worth a try at $45.

No Doubt..........., as I showed you, I purchased four of them thinking they'd be placed onto the other ports on the Mac Mini, but two was more then enough and I was able to sell the other two............., yes they're worth trying indeed, and for those few that claim they don't work?, well the majority has spoken the other way around.

They do work in tandem with the iUSB 3.0, and I'd imagine it's going to be the same with the Regen as well.

I'm getting excellent results h/ear.
 
Read it for yourself:

http://www.cabledyne.com/usb-cable.html

Than ask yourself, if you aren't having problems with the USB cables in your system now, does it really matter if it's 2.0 or 3.0 standard?, and if your response is that you wish to sample a true 3.0 USB?, then I'd say look through the ones available via the Cable Company and pay that small deposit ( that you aren't losing by the way ) and borrow 1-3 of them, as most local dealers aren't going to have half as many brands as they carry............, it's better to spend a little to know what fits, as opposed to buying blind and wasting more in the long run.

Yet, I'd wager that a LPS would improve sonics even more then said cabling..........., but I'd be wrong, I'd ask Lee Harvey and enginedr, what they both think after adding LPS to their iUSB or Regen's, I bet you'll be surprised by their findings.

In a minute little Brotha.
3.0 is ten times faster than 2.0
 
I purchased it as it was recommended to use along with the Regen, so I'll have it in the system next week and will try it on both units..........., as it stands I'm nit having any trouble using the Vertere Acoustics D-Fi V2 on the 3.0 and the Neutral USB between it into the iDSD.

Here it makes for a wonderful combination.
not really a problem, but as mentioned above...3.0 is a faster rate.
 
No Doubt..........., as I showed you, I purchased four of them thinking they'd be placed onto the other ports on the Mac Mini, but two was more then enough and I was able to sell the other two............., yes they're worth trying indeed, and for those few that claim they don't work?, well the majority has spoken the other way around.

They do work in tandem with the iUSB 3.0, and I'd imagine it's going to be the same with the Regen as well.

I'm getting excellent results h/ear.
Results? I like what im hearing now!
 
3.0 is ten times faster than 2.0

I got that part............., but who's really making true 3.0 USB cables?, which is why I recommended borrowing something through the Cable Company, or at the very least add a list of companies that do?, as that'd be a great service to the ones seeking said brands, no!.

Like most whom are using more expensive DACs or Transports, yet are using DSD 128 or higher, what might they be using differently then us?, just Curiuos............., that's right................, maybe, just maybe the Curiuos USB cable besides the Supra are using the standard 3.0 and 90 Ohms rules. Either way................., let the games begin.
 
I got that part............., but who's really making true 3.0 USB cables?, which is why I recommended borrowing something through the Cable Company, or at the very least add a list of companies that do?, as that'd be a great service to the ones seeking said brands, no!.

Like most whom are using more expensive DACs or Transports, yet are using DSD 128 or higher, what might they be using differently then us?, just Curiuos............., that's right................, maybe, just maybe the Curiuos USB cable besides the Supra are using the standard 3.0 and 90 Ohms rules. Either way................., let the games begin.
There's enough 3.0 cables out. Also you do realize the blue cables that came with your iFI gear are 3.0.

Man...you know not to ask me that question....what they doing different....you know I don't follow....if I was a follower I wouldn't have Vincent seperates or Canton speakers...why, because the masses don't buy stuff that's not popular. So You know I'm not paying attention to what others are doing different. I know what I want...it's cool to make suggestions, but in the end.....I'm doing my research. Bro...I've got an external HDD that's 3.0....it's a pleasure to be able to rip CD,s much faster than my internal HDD that's 2.0 the read/write times are great! the new iFI usb3.0 is like a sports car compared to the older iUSB. It's like putting the high octane gas into a Carvett! That is if you want the best performance. The IUSB 3.0 has the technology....we paid for that technology....so I'm going to use that technology. What say you?
 
Nothing found on true 3.0 USB cables of yet, but why bother when the future is with USB - C?, as mentioned here:

http://www.belkin.com/us/Resource-Center/USB-C/?gclid=CLul6uOUtsgCFdgIgQod51gKoQ

It appears that all of us have been wasting our money, when all that's needed is to buy Belkin and be done with it, what say you?, any testers on this theory?.
What do you mean nothing found on true USB 3.0 cables? You killing me! Do you have gear that's modded for USB-C?
 
There's enough 3.0 cables out. Also you do realize the blue cables that came with your iFI gear are 3.0.

Man...you know not to ask me that question....what they doing different....you know I don't follow....if I was a follower I wouldn't have Vincent seperates or Canton speakers...why, because the masses don't buy stuff that's not popular. So You know I'm not paying attention to what others are doing different. I know what I want...it's cool to make suggestions, but in the end.....I'm doing my research. Bro...I've got an external HDD that's 3.0....it's a pleasure to be able to rip CD,s much faster than my internal HDD that's 2.0 the read/write times are great! the new iFI usb3.0 is like a sports car compared to the older iUSB. It's like putting the high octane gas into a Carvett! That is if you want the best performance. The IUSB 3.0 has the technology....we paid for that technology....so I'm going to use that technology. What say you?

I'd say, I'd like to know at least 3-4 brands other then the included USB cable that came with the iFi items in question, and I do understand your desire to build upon said technologies, yet the question remains that even a cheap LPS would bring you to your knees as the result of pulling that much more from the 3.0............, but in the end, it's all about each of us trying to improve the performance of our own gear in ways that without any doubt are productive.

The route we choice to arrive there might be in different roads, in so much as we get there at some point is what matters.
 
What do you mean nothing found on true USB 3.0 cables? You killing me! Do you have gear that's modded for USB-C?

Merely an attempt at humor, as I'm still awaiting your list of proven USB 3.0 which then meets said standards, as I've looked through quite a few of them and have noticed very few, yet I've also spotted mention of 3.1 USB cables, so not to kill you............., let's see where this all leads.

And in truth, I'm game and shall meet you somewhere in between our given destinies when it's all said and done.

Continue to march onwards to your own beat, and in doing so............., one realizes that in hindsight, it's much much easier then what some make it.

Enjoy the ride, but do slow down on sharp curves, and watch for detours ahead.

Peace little Brotha.
 
I'd say, I'd like to know at least 3-4 brands other then the included USB cable that came with the iFi items in question, and I do understand your desire to build upon said technologies, yet the question remains that even a cheap LPS would bring you to your knees as the result of pulling that much more from the 3.0............, but in the end, it's all about each of us trying to improve the performance of our own gear in ways that without any doubt are productive.

The route we choice to arrive there might be in different roads, in so much as we get there at some point is what matters.

Bro....you and I already discussed one earlier. The Wireworld Starlight 7 3.0....also Audioquest makes a few and Kimber Kable as well. And that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.
 
Merely an attempt at humor, as I'm still awaiting your list of proven USB 3.0 which then meets said standards, as I've looked through quite a few of them and have noticed very few, yet I've also spotted mention of 3.1 USB cables, so not to kill you............., let's see where this all leads.

And in truth, I'm game and shall meet you somewhere in between our given destinies when it's all said and done.

Continue to march onwards to your own beat, and in doing so............., one realizes that in hindsight, it's much much easier then what some make it.

Enjoy the ride, but do slow down on sharp curves, and watch for detours ahead.

Peace little Brotha.

Bro, what's your point? There are 3.0 USB cables out there. What you driving at? You seem combative....antagonistic...being hateful towards something I decided to do. What up? If that's your attemp at more humor....from where I'm sitting its in bad taste.
 
No, I'm not being hateful or combative, merely expressing my point of views, if that's okay?, as I didn't know I needed permission to do either. But I can tell you that neither Kimber or AudioQuest USB cables are the sound you're looking for, and I thought that you had mentioned that WireWorld in your system was causing noises earlier on, so it merely went over my head to hear you mention going back to it............., especially when there other brands out there that might better fit.

Which merely lead to me recommending once again, that you at least consider using in one form or another a LPS, seeming that each of us whom has purchased one has found it made either the Regen or iUSB better sonically, but you still seem to avoid taking it seriously............, if you really want to think back........., I've recommended tubes - power cords - AC outlets - isolation feet - speaker stands on your behalf, and how many of these was I right on?, well it's the same with the LPS, lest you like going in circles?, otherwise get up off the high horse about spending a few dollars to borrow a few USB cable from the Cable Company, damn you're sometimes to cheap for your own good..........., as once again your local dealers don't handle a lot of brands, and knowing you............., you aren't going to spend Clarus cable type loot.

But dude, I'm backing out and signing off this ****, and hope that you get it right.

I'll check back in December to see if matters are resolved, have a great weekend none the less, and know that I don't have a reason to hate anyone, as I'd rather not speak to those whom I don't like as I'd rather keep it real.
 
no, I'm not being hateful or combative, merely expressing my point of views, if that's okay?, as I didn't know I needed permission to do either. But I can tell you that neither Kimber or AudioQuest USB cables are the sound you're looking for, and I thought that you had mentioned that WireWorld in your system was causing noises earlier on, so it merely went over my head to hear you mention going back to it............., especially when there other brands out there that might better fit.

Which merely lead to me recommending once again, that you at least consider using in one form or another a LPS, seeming that each of us whom has purchased one has found it made either the Regen or iUSB better sonically, but you still seem to avoid taking it seriously............, if you really want to think back........., I've recommended tubes - power cords - AC outlets - isolation feet - speaker stands on your behalf, and how many of these was I right on?, well it's the same with the LPS, lest you like going in circles?, otherwise get up off the high horse about spending a few dollars to borrow a few USB cable from the Cable Company, damn you're sometimes to cheap for your own good..........., as once again your local dealers don't handle a lot of brands, and knowing you............., you aren't going to spend Clarus cable type loot.

But dude, I'm backing out and signing off this ****, and hope that you get it right.

I'll check back in December to see if matters are resolved, have a great weekend none the less, and know that I don't have a reason to hate anyone, as I'd rather not speak to those whom I don't like as I'd rather keep it real.

Ohhh brother!

Hahahahahaha....Oscar it aint that serious at all. Yo pride hurt? Stop huffing, puffing and cussing as if you going to commit murder. Man its an audio chat room. If some one don't want your info for whatever reasons...shake the dust from your feet and move on, rather than acting like a kid and throwing a hissy fit. Saying you'll check back in December as if some one hurt you feeling...Arguing over audio is not that important to me as you. Perhaps you need to step back from the ledge, and listen to some tunes before you blow a tube.

Now if you want to blast me...go ahead. Have at it. After wards tell me about the REGEN/iUSB3.0 comparisons

IN a minute
 
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Well, I can tell the difference between the Regen's and the iFi unit quite well.
Now, I am not the type who uses flowery phrases and such to describe audio quality.
So, I will keep my audio description very basic.

To me, the iFi provides more stage depth and a realism that makes live music sound like its right in my room. The Regen has more dynamics and better bass.
Separately, they are good but, together they have given me the best sound I could imagine.
 
Leaving digital! Probably not altogether, can't beat the convenience. After listening to only digital for 20 yrs., I got the chance to listen to a record, and was blown away!! I then set about replacing my favorite CD's with some 12" black disks. Analog has brought me back to audio! Mind you, I haven't had the opportunity to listen to a hi end separate Dac, multi thousand dollar setup, I have a Nak cd from '96. The Nak is no competition for my '82 Denon TT. I have heard that CD will never sound as good as analog, but Hi-res might.
 
Leaving digital! Probably not altogether, can't beat the convenience. After listening to only digital for 20 yrs., I got the chance to listen to a record, and was blown away!! I then set about replacing my favorite CD's with some 12" black disks. Analog has brought me back to audio! Mind you, I haven't had the opportunity to listen to a hi end separate Dac, multi thousand dollar setup, I have a Nak cd from '96. The Nak is no competition for my '82 Denon TT. I have heard that CD will never sound as good as analog, but Hi-res might.
Hahahahahaha! I cant blame you there!

A few days ago I was at a friends house. He has a Levinson amp, Pass Labs preamp to which he uses with Clearaudio Maestro V2 Ebony Cart and Clearaudio Performance DC. It is so natural sounding....more so that DSD 128. I was really enjoying his setup.
 
Ohhh brother!

Hahahahahaha....Oscar it aint that serious at all. Yo pride hurt? Stop huffing, puffing and cussing as if you going to commit murder. Man its an audio chat room. If some one don't want your info for whatever reasons...shake the dust from your feet and move on, rather than acting like a kid and throwing a hissy fit. Saying you'll check back in December as if some one hurt you feeling...Arguing over audio is not that important to me as you. Perhaps you need to step back from the ledge, and listen to some tunes before you blow a tube.

Now if you want to blast me...go ahead. Have at it. After wards tell me about the REGEN/iUSB3.0 comparisons

IN a minute

Brotha B,

The all to brief hissy fit is over and behind me, let me once again try even harder to keep my emotions under wraps as it does get the best of me at times............., damn dual personality I'd say, hold on............., that other guy sitting on my left shoulder says I'd blast you, while the wiser one sitting on my right one says get over it, as you're much much much bigger then to let this stuff sway you from the course.

So with that being said..........., here's what I'm hearing between the two devices in question, as Lee Harvey mentioned I should wait two weeks before passing judgement upon the Regen, I can only imagine it gets better.............., but as it stands, within all of the usual three tracks I believe I've a feel for what it's doing compared to the iUSB 3.0, while the 3.0 offers a slightly quicker response timing to notes and not at all what I'd call bright in my system, the Regen as Lee Harvey mentioned has a weightier and more grounded feel, as well as a fuller sound which adds to one perception that each instrument is more delicately balanced............, and the separation of notes in general have a correctness to them that seem to offer a more natural flow to them in comparison to said 3.0.

I myself can't see letting either one of them go, as they both offer different sonics, yet one does it more how should I put this without coming across as biased?, in what strikes me like a very well designed tube amp that lets one hear deeper into the background and pulls at your spirit inviting to come in and chill for hours upon end ( Regen ), while the other says can you hear that little tapping of the cymbals which weren't quite as pronounced before, as well as other hidden details buried deeper in the mix ( iUSB 3.0 ).

So what I'd then sense this boils down to is, if someone wishes to have a warmer | richer | creamier more textured presentation that's more forgiving of brighter sounding gear and|or recordings............., the Regen is for you............, but if one has a fairly neutral system and wants let's say a more reach out and touch the recording studio controls.........., then the 3.0 would certainly apply here.

Is there a clear winner, where I'd say one exceeds the other?, no............., as mentioned above like anything else as it relates to audio, it's what they end user is seeking. As stated.............., I'm keeping both and will be adding a more upscale LPS to the mix, because even with the standard one as supplied with the Regen had a very weird way of enhancing the sound of both........., and the el'cheapo LPS as recommended by some on the various Regen forum talks........, that go between $45 - $65 goes one even better.

Brotha B | Rich | Lee and my other brothers..............., all I can say is............, Damn, Damn, Damn, Damn.........., it's clicking, or as Rich would say " this bitch is clapping ". And from what I'm hearing............, those sitting on the fence waiting to hear which one is better?, I'm sorry to disappoint you................., to my ears and senses it merely boils down to what one wishes to hear?, as well as spend?, but in truth.........., if you're doing this whole CA thing.............., and haven't committed to one or the other, it's time to hop your happy arse over that fence without touching it, and get to your phone and place an order today.


Without either, I dare say one merely doesn't know what this **** is truly capable of..............., CDs my arse, I don't miss them in the least as compared to vinyl, but this is what I truthfully believe digital was meant to be heard, and to my ears while SA-CDs made a qlimpse at correcting matters, this is where it ends.

Let's see if my findings have changed in two weeks?, byr in the time being............., fellas this **** is moving me to my very core even more so then it did a few days | weeks | months ago, and I'm very very very very content in knowing such a wonderful sound could be had for so little, even an entry level turntable or CD player aren't capable of hitting all the right notes and keys so correctly as what these products are doing right now.

Shall we all see where this ends.

Be well.
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Thanks for the update! And what you have posted is the same thing I'm hearing from others. So how does one justify the cost of the iFI iUSB 3.0? I'd say its still doing more, even the guy who makes the REGEN said that. ALso the iFI does look better....and we have yet to see if the 3.0 USB Standard has any sonic improvement or if its just technology thats not audible. Once again thanks for your kind review!
 
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