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Going Digital!

Byron

I have been using a Fiio X3 for my Hi Rez playback which also uses the Burr Brown chip.

Have you had a chance to listen to the Fiio? the Fiio is also portable and you can upload Hi Rez files directly to it, no computer near the listening room. I ask because i`m wondering if they sound close to each other. The Fiio sounds great but i had always considered it as filling a gap until i could afford something which i thought would be better.

I do not want to purchase the iFi Micro iDSD Dac and find that it`s no better than the Fiio X3.

I`m new to this so i need all of the guidance that i can get, thanks.

Haven't heard the Fiio but im willing to bet they are very much different in performance. Dont know about the Fiio, but the iFi doesn't have a budget sound at all. IF you haven't, do a little research into it...and Music Direct gives a 60 day return on it. A great converter has to have a great chip set as well as a great internal clock. If not, the DAC aint worth a poot!

The iFI chip is a Burr Brown Dual-core DSD, DXD, PCM DAC...a 2-DAC Chip; 4-Channel; 8-Signals, custom interleaving for maximum SNR....has Bit-Perfect DSD processing, Bit-Perfect PCM processing....the clock is Ultra low jitter GMT computer controlled Femto Clock...RMS jitter 12kHz – 1MHz < 280 Femtoseconds.

The formats...DSD 512/256/128/64 24.6/22.6/12.4/11.2/6.2/5.6/3.1/2.8 All native decoding, no internal hardware conversion
DXD 2x/1x 768/705.6/384/352.8kHz All native decoding, no internal hardware conversion
PCM 768/705.6/384/352.8/192/176.4/96/88.2/ 48/44.1kHz.

Theres a lot packed into this little DAC...once you got it all setup I think you'd be pleased. I use mine for DSD only....that is the entire point for me.
 
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Haven't heard the Fiio but im willing to bet they are very much different in performance. Dont know about the Fiio, but the iFi doesn't have a budget sound at all. IF you haven't, do a little research into it...and Music Direct gives a 60 day return on it. A great converter has to have a great chip set as well as a great internal clock. If not, the DAC aint worth a poot!

The iFI chip is a Burr Brown Dual-core DSD, DXD, PCM DAC...a 2-DAC Chip; 4-Channel; 8-Signals, custom interleaving for maximum SNR....has Bit-Perfect DSD processing, Bit-Perfect PCM processing....the clock is Ultra low jitter GMT computer controlled Femto Clock...RMS jitter 12kHz – 1MHz < 280 Femtoseconds.

The formats...DSD 512/256/128/64 24.6/22.6/12.4/11.2/6.2/5.6/3.1/2.8 All native decoding, no internal hardware conversion
DXD 2x/1x 768/705.6/384/352.8kHz All native decoding, no internal hardware conversion
PCM 768/705.6/384/352.8/192/176.4/96/88.2/ 48/44.1kHz.

Theres a lot packed into this little DAC...once you got it all setup I think you'd be pleased. I use mine for DSD only....that is the entire point for me.

Trying to do my homework. There are a lot of products out there all using the same chips and more chips on the horizon claiming to be better. But as you already know it`s not always about the chip but what`s built around it that`s just as important as the chip itself. So many of these products and at first glance appear to be similar or close to one another.

Need to get back to my homework. Thanks.
 
Trying to do my homework. There are a lot of products out there all using the same chips and more chips on the horizon claiming to be better. But as you already know it`s not always about the chip but what`s built around it that`s just as important as the chip itself. So many of these products and at first glance appear to be similar or close to one another.

Need to get back to my homework. Thanks.

Yes sir....That magic word..home work! For me, there are only three other DACs I would consider other than mine. The Marantz HD-1, the W4Sound DSD DAC, and of course the Lampizator. But certainly there are other good ones out there. It's just a matter of finding that one that's right for you.
 
You know the iFi Micro is good when it can keep company with a Lampizator! Though he is using it as a headphone amp/dac, The Micro and iUSB PSU is underneath the Lampizator Level 7

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Excuse me..............., but I'd have to add that it's being played along side Wavac Tube Gear, speaks volumes to me - nice find Brotha B.

Bring the rain.
 

Delete............., why?.

Isn't it a photo that's easy enough to find doing a Google search?, and is therefore seen as something free for all to see......., or was it copy protected?. Wow talk about being overly controlling of someone's freedom of expression act - this is taking it to the extreme.

What's wrong - with sharing a photo?, are there rules against doing so?, or is someone's feelings hurt?.

:scratch2:_oh
 
Bro...I deleted the posting seeing all of a sudden the picture wont show.

Bro........, mine stills shows!, so maybe it's personal?.

Yet I'd have sworn your photo wasn't against any kind of guidelines, unless I missed something?.
 
Cool that yours still shows. Its really a great product!

No doubt in my mind.

It's weird that some try to share with others such well kept secrets, regardless of pricing, that have a sense of musicality about tgem that others should be more aware of, yet it seems as if someone - somewhere seems to be hating on your post regarding the Lampi DACs - but in my mind, I'd much rather trust the opinion of someone whom has heard one or two of them with their own ears, and whom has actually met their designer in person compared to someone whom talks about what a friend of a friend of a friend had to say about anything as it relates to audio.

Which is why, I've always tried my best to get out and hear items for myself - as I trust what I hear along with a few others I might add......., but that's it, as I'm all to aware everyone can't hear.

Nuff Said.
 
Oops!,

Mi bad.........., as I was just told that Brotha Byron himself deleted the photo, I must take back my words, as I was thinking that someone here had something to do with its disappearance.

I stand corrected.
 
Brotha B,

I guess here's a better place then any to share my findings on the 4 USB cables I've in home and have been trying to get a feel for what each is doing in " Mi-Fi ", as always each one of us has to gain more insight into what sounds/feels right in our systems, as no one size fits all, nor does my flavor has to match yours, yet I do believe in generalizing about said sonics as a collective whole in regards to Synergy above all else.

Let's begin - shall we.

Being as how you had mentioned said iDSD DAC/iUSB Power came across as brighter sounding before they're fully broken in, I felt the need to stay my quest at the lower end of the pricing spectrum and ordered a Straightwire USB - Link - iFi Audio Mercury - Wireworld Starlight and Black Cat Cable Silverstar off the bat as a means of seeing which direction would prove worthy of pursuing once I've decided to move onwards to USB cables between the $300 - $500 mark, as I can't justify thinking $700 ones are needed at this point.

In my system, and to my ears as it stands at this very second - the Black Cat Cable Silverstar is presenting the notes in a manner to which I find extremely to my likings, as it had more of a sense of ebb and flow added to each note as if set inside of its own separate space if you will, and has a strange way of allowing me to peek deeper into how each instrument or vocalist has taken obviously years to sharpen the technique and/or craft to the point - each recording has its own sound as it should, instead of coming across as each were recording in the same studio or on the same date - as many jazz lovers like myself - will know the sound of the Blue Note or Prestige recordings between say 1953/62 had " that sound " whereas labels like RCA Victor or Columbia while nicely produced - weren't remotely close in feel.

I'm inclined to believe as I was told that the iFi Gemini is essential in what its design will add to the iDSD DAC/iUSB Power in one breathe, but as far as that main USB at the Source end/beginning ( depending upon ones view on how they see this? ) is where I honesty believes one either makes or breaks the system, as I tend to believe that ever cable further downstream is merely a means of passing along the vital information presented at the Source and anything afterwards merely acts as a filter in one way or the other - and either adds/subtracts from the beauty of notes at their beginnings - once again, if that makes any sense?.

I can admit I've quite a bit more time to allow everything to settle in, and get the Mac Mini into play, as I'm going directly through my iPad connected with the Apple CCK - but it's allowing me to clearly distinguish the differences between it and my HRT iStreamer to which I've grown accustomed to since January 2011, and know exactly what was missing in so many ways, it's not funny.

This isn't a review by any means, merely an attempt to make those of you whom own these wonderful little devices aware of ones options in USB cables - I plan to borrow from my dealer/friends at the Cable Company USBs from the likes of the Wireworld Starlight Silver and Platinum - Acoustic Revive - PAD - Wywires and even a loan from a friend whom own the KingRex uArt S USBs, and if in the end, I've to buy a $700 USB?, you best believe it has got to prove itself more then worthy............, because once again, as it stands right now..........., the Black Cat Cable Silverstar at $99/0.5m is how do we say it Brotha B!

" Clicking ".

I can only say once again, this is the final piece of the puzzle as far as my quest for components go in my system, yet I'm up to the task, and am once again enjoying myself as much as I've in over 34 years - it's as if, I've finally gotten it right - and in doing so, found my way home.

Brotha B thanks for listening to me all these months, but on this one..........., I owe you for teaching me what's what, and with that being said - Thank you from the bottom of my heart with each breathe that has bought me that much closer to Enlightenment

Peace beyond to you and yours, as well as to us all.

O_o scar
 
Big Guy....you've just put all the nay Sayers to shame! Here you are listening to USB cables and talking about the sound and how you like this and that and so forth. Implying they arent alike....contrary to the nay sayers. After all its a "data cable" they proclaim...."it just 1's and 0's" they say... " so how could that have a different sound"? But here you are saying they are different! I hope some of them are listening and reading....because I too know USB cables aren't
all the same.

Bro....I get what you are getting at...and I know you can hear....and I know you can presume what it might sound like, but the Micro is going to change. As you've noted, I said mine was bright and had a digital edge/sound to it before it came into its own. So why are you trying cables now? Wouldn't it be easier to just let the Micro settle down before doing any critical listening to cable? I discoverd I needed one silver cable in the Micro's chain to get the best sound. Dont know if you will need silver as every system is different. I find the Micro was made to have an analog sound to it.

I've not much time this week for a lots of listening....lots of things in the fire, so once im done, I will be back to my normal listening and looking for new cables for the Micro as I am using the stoke usb cables that came with it. I do have a custom interconnect, so I will be getting new USB cables.

Thanks for doing the research for me and giving me some nice choices...You've made my work load a lot easier.

Also I did get a chance to speak at length with Lukasz , He loves Nordost....dont know if they make a USB cable...if they do, you may want to borrow one for TCC.
 
I Have ordered 2 USB Cables from Achtung Audio on EBAY - They use silver Wire
and split the power and signal wires . One has 2 ends one for power and one for signal . I have a IFI usb power I use with my NuForce U192s . The other one has a single end on each side with 2 wires . That will go from the Mac Mini to the IFI power. When I get Them I will post my results .
 
Big Guy....you've just put all the nay Sayers to shame! Here you are listening to USB cables and talking about the sound and how you like this and that and so forth. Implying they arent alike....contrary to the nay sayers. After all its a "data cable" they proclaim...."it just 1's and 0's" they say... " so how could that have a different sound"? But here you are saying they are different! I hope some of them are listening and reading....because I too know USB cables aren't
all the same.

Bro....I get what you are getting at...and I know you can hear....and I know you can presume what it might sound like, but the Micro is going to change. As you've noted, I said mine was bright and had a digital edge/sound to it before it came into its own. So why are you trying cables now? Wouldn't it be easier to just let the Micro settle down before doing any critical listening to cable? I discoverd I needed one silver cable in the Micro's chain to get the best sound. Dont know if you will need silver as every system is different. I find the Micro was made to have an analog sound to it.

I've not much time this week for a lots of listening....lots of things in the fire, so once im done, I will be back to my normal listening and looking for new cables for the Micro as I am using the stoke usb cables that came with it. I do have a custom interconnect, so I will be getting new USB cables.

Thanks for doing the research for me and giving me some nice choices...You've made my work load a lot easier.

Also I did get a chance to speak at length with Lukasz , He loves Nordost....dont know if they make a USB cable...if they do, you may want to borrow one for TCC.

Brotha B,

As you should know by now?, I've never been much of a follower and could care less what the Naysayers have to say - as I'm and always have been active in my belief in tweaks as far as isolating every component in my system, and to me the cabling looms has always been a means of voicing " Mi-Fi " to suit my ears/senses as I'm not one of those whom believes in leaving things to chance and merely rely upon the throw away cables including in the packages to see me through - no far from it.

I decided to try the different USBs as a means of understanding the iDSD Micro DAC/iUSB Power both before and after they've settled in, as I then feel it offers me more insight into which flavor is needed at said time, and since I can merely pay for shipping of said cables, I figured why wait?, because in the end it also gives me the opportunity to study the construction of said cables before hand as well as just see what's what as is.

And you better believe a pair of Nordost Blue Heaven 2.0 Data USB Cables are indeed on my list of ones to actually own, if nothing else........, I'm quite good at Googling my behind off, even so much as to translate many reviews/articles from around the globe as a means of gaining knowledge upon anything audio related - and I for one can hear grave differences between any given IC - LS Cable - AC Cord - Isolation Feet/Devices/Platforms and can say proudly I'm also a firm believer that everything audio related has an effect upon ones system, good, bad or indifferently.

But once again, said systems has to be both transparent and neutral enough to be capable of resolving said differences to begin with, lest some might continue looking at said wares as Black Magic or Voodoo..........., in my mind it's about enhancing my systems signature through the means of said cables - and I can admit I see/hear them as nothing more then modern day means of tone controls of old, and as we both know..........., it's always about the flavoring, some cultures in real life dig different spices on their servings - I not one to dig overly warm stew ( or better put creamier sounding systems which I often refer to as sleepy time type systems, that are dull and boring to my ears ) I tend to like a system that's going to pull me close to the edge of my seat ( now that's funny ) yet not pull me onto the floor ( even funnier ) with any fake sense of detailing at the expense of tonality - texture - timbre - purity or naturalness.

But as always, it's all subjective at best - but once again............, I admittedly love my spices.

You Dig? ( in a Samuel L. Jackson sort of loud voice ).

In the end, said voicing helps me find my way into the light, and out of the shadows of enlightenment as well as contentment.

More insight.

Brotha Black,

I feel you on the naysayers but I've to go with the flow on what I know makes all the difference in the world - cables. As you know all to well one brand/size doesn't fit all, but one can get general ideas of what type of metallurgy works within any given system,,because your ears and speakers with both tell you when something's either off, or needed it's that simple.

But it seems some just don't understand the truth of the matter is that cables aren't anything more then tone controls like they used to have on preamps and receivers back in the day, cables either add more detail and resolution and snap and attack ( silver ) or makes the system mellower - creamier - more laid-back and refined ( copper ), so if these same guys whom claim they can hear?, then why not invest into ones system where it counts?, I mean cats buy $2.500 CD Players and settle on a pair of $100 ICs believing it's magical!, hell....., not me, I'd much rather go ahead and spend say upwards of $800 - $1.250 which is half the cost invested into ones Source and where the most vital cable needs to reside to begin with, because it allows everything to pass downstream - does it not?.

I mean if cats are content with the amplification and speakers and so on what's next?, cabling and isolation it.........., otherwise one isn't hearing it at its best no matter what one says......, it isn't so.

That's why of late I've gone back and read about the cables made in Asian based countries more then most, because in hindsight those in the know - know the very best wiring techniques were developed there - I'm not just talking Japan, I'm talking Hong Kong and Taiwan as well, so in going after the Acoustic Revive USB 1.0LPS ( $500 ) in truth it's cheap one we begin looking at the total cost of our systems, so why settle.

Anyways here's an example of what I'm getting at:

http://jeffsplace.me/wordpress/?p=6924

Buy right once and be done - or buy unwisely and spend twice as much more times then needed.

Get it?.

Onwards and Outwards as always - thinking that is.

Peace little Brotha, catch you on the dark side of neutrality ( if you catch my drift? ).

:tears:_oh
 
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I Have ordered 2 USB Cables from Achtung Audio on EBAY - They use silver Wire
and split the power and signal wires . One has 2 ends one for power and one for signal . I have a IFI usb power I use with my NuForce U192s . The other one has a single end on each side with 2 wires . That will go from the Mac Mini to the IFI power. When I get Them I will post my results .


Hi enginedr,

I just came across these USB cables you've mentioned, and might say they do look very interesting:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/0-6m-AG8-...ion_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ed8e4c7aa

Please share your findings one you receive them?, thanks for sharing.

Regards,
:thmbsp:_oh
 
Wireworld cables!

Ok...I've had the iDSD DAC for a little more than a month and I am really enjoying it. DSD128 files are absolutely amazing! I've already threw out my X-RAY v8 CDP. Up until today I've used the stock cables that came with the IDSD Micro and the iUSB power supply. I've spoken with the people over at iFI and asked about the metals in the stock cable and they said all copper.

Now I have all Crystal copper in my system. My system needed no silver until the Micro settled in. It a warm analog sounding DAC. But in combination with the tubes in my system, I felt what I was hearing from the Micro was a little to warm for my taste. So I added a all silver interconnect from the DAC to preampI've had the silver RCA for a while and could and have easily enjoyed what I was hearing. But I knew, being the tweaker that I am, that I was going to experiment with better cabling after a while. So yesterday I made a call to my dealer to see if he had any interconnects laying around and he said yeah, come on over.

So I decided to go today. We sat and talked for a while. My dealer is like 75 years old and every bit of an audiophile. As we where talking, his door bell rang....in walked an even older audiophile, he was proud to tell me he had just turned 79 that he uses McIntosh tubed amp/preamp...some huge expensive Nola speakers, VPI turntable, a CDP...just purchased a new DAC, has over 20,000 albums and over 10,000 CDs and that he started taking piano lessons 2 years ago and can play like Bill Evans, only likes Jazz and Classical, has no use for The junk on TV and that his wife died 6 years ago and that Lester Young is his favorite artist. After telling me all that, he got what he came for (cables) told me it was nice meeting me, and left the house. I was like amazed and hoped I will have as much going on at 79 years young.

Well any ways, shortly after my dealer gave me a Wire world Silver Eclips 7 interconnect cable to try($700) . I asked if he had any usb cables...he said I Might have a few odds and ends around here some place and went to the basement to get see what he had. He returned 5 minutes later with 2 Wire world Starlight usb cables and 1 ultraviolet usb cable and told me to take them all.

After getting home, fired up the system and listened for 10 minutes. Removed the stock, copper usb from the computer to the IUSB PSU and replaced it with one of the Starlight usb cables and listened. Heard no difference from the stock copper. Went back and forth to make sure and nope..no difference. So I left the starlight in place and took out the stock copper from the PSU to the Micro. Listened and immediately heard the difference. In fact with the 2 star lights in place and the all silver RCA going from DAC into preamp. It was a bit over the top with to much up top with not enough body and weight. So I removed the Starlight from the computer to the PSU and replaced with the stock copper cable and thing sounded better. Nice highs Mids and bass weight was good.. So at that point I had the stock usb from the computer to the PSU. And the Starlight from the PSU to the Micro, and from Micro to preamp was the all silver RCA's.I was liking what I was hearing and was very satisfied. So I listened for a little while and was really digging it. But then remembered I still had the Wireworld Silver Eclips 7.... OCC silver clad copper. So I removed the all silver and replaced with the Wire World and I couldn't believe what it did for my system! This was one of those times when cable takes your system up a few notches! I listened and the first thing I noticed was it sounded like all the music was inside the lines without being analyticle. It was as if the music was blurred/smeared and now its all inside the lines! I was like whoa! I continued to listens and noticed the mids had more presence and clarity. I'm liking it. Continued to listen and noticed more bottomed weight and also each note was richer in tone and texture. This cable is the bomb! I love it. The combination of the Wireworld Starlight and the Wire world Silver Eclips 7 is the perfect combination for me. Some might find it a bit expensive, but if one can get it discounted...it just might be what one needs. Ok back to the music!
 
Ok...I've had the iDSD DAC for a little more than a month and I am really enjoying it. DSD128 files are absolutely amazing! I've already threw out my X-RAY v8 CDP. Up until today I've used the stock cables that came with the IDSD Micro and the iUSB power supply. I've spoken with the people over at iFI and asked about the metals in the stock cable and they said all copper.

Now I have all Crystal copper in my system. My system needed no silver until the Micro settled in. It a warm analog sounding DAC. But in combination with the tubes in my system, I felt what I was hearing from the Micro was a little to warm for my taste. So I added a all silver interconnect from the DAC to preampI've had the silver RCA for a while and could and have easily enjoyed what I was hearing. But I knew, being the tweaker that I am, that I was going to experiment with better cabling after a while. So yesterday I made a call to my dealer to see if he had any interconnects laying around and he said yeah, come on over.

So I decided to go today. We sat and talked for a while. My dealer is like 75 years old and every bit of an audiophile. As we where talking, his door bell rang....in walked an even older audiophile, he was proud to tell me he had just turned 79 that he uses McIntosh tubed amp/preamp...some huge expensive Nola speakers, VPI turntable, a CDP...just purchased a new DAC, has over 20,000 albums and over 10,000 CDs and that he started taking piano lessons 2 years ago and can play like Bill Evans, only likes Jazz and Classical, has no use for The junk on TV and that his wife died 6 years ago and that Lester Young is his favorite artist. After telling me all that, he got what he came for (cables) told me it was nice meeting me, and left the house. I was like amazed and hoped I will have as much going on at 79 years young.

Well any ways, shortly after my dealer gave me a Wire world Silver Eclips 7 interconnect cable to try($700) . I asked if he had any usb cables...he said I Might have a few odds and ends around here some place and went to the basement to get see what he had. He returned 5 minutes later with 2 Wire world Starlight usb cables and 1 ultraviolet usb cable and told me to take them all.

After getting home, fired up the system and listened for 10 minutes. Removed the stock, copper usb from the computer to the IUSB PSU and replaced it with one of the Starlight usb cables and listened. Heard no difference from the stock copper. Went back and forth to make sure and nope..no difference. So I left the starlight in place and took out the stock copper from the PSU to the Micro. Listened and immediately heard the difference. In fact with the 2 star lights in place and the all silver RCA going from DAC into preamp. It was a bit over the top with to much up top with not enough body and weight. So I removed the Starlight from the computer to the PSU and replaced with the stock copper cable and thing sounded better. Nice highs Mids and bass weight was good.. So at that point I had the stock usb from the computer to the PSU. And the Starlight from the PSU to the Micro, and from Micro to preamp was the all silver RCA's.I was liking what I was hearing and was very satisfied. So I listened for a little while and was really digging it. But then remembered I still had the Wireworld Silver Eclips 7.... OCC silver clad copper. So I removed the all silver and replaced with the Wire World and I couldn't believe what it did for my system! This was one of those times when cable takes your system up a few notches! I listened and the first thing I noticed was it sounded like all the music was inside the lines without being analyticle. It was as if the music was blurred/smeared and now its all inside the lines! I was like whoa! I continued to listens and noticed the mids had more presence and clarity. I'm liking it. Continued to listen and noticed more bottomed weight and also each note was richer in tone and texture. This cable is the bomb! I love it. The combination of the Wireworld Starlight and the Wire world Silver Eclips 7 is the perfect combination for me. Some might find it a bit expensive, but if one can get it discounted...it just might be what one needs. Ok back to the music!

Brotha B,

Here we go............, as per the Naysayers - USB Cables as well as differently metals or plating used in said cables should made any difference, yet as some of us know they do............, and once again it's up to each end user to understand the flavoring needed to enhance the overall signature of ones system - because the reality of it is - tooling like the material our cartridges - cables and brand or voicing of tubes are nothing more then ways of adjusting the tone controls minus the olde school knobs that once ruled the day prior to the third British Invasion during the 80s, where such trickery wasn't the norm, and wasn't found on their gear.

But it seems that you've in fact found " your sound " where by adding those final IC or USBs nearest your Source you've merely passed on the finer details as they laid dormant within the notes themself awaiting said opportunity to be freed - and once you hit upon said rare combination of cables that preform at their best to your ear and end your system - you know what I'm often know to say......., " spend it where it counts ".

Reading between the lines on your excitement - I'd certainly assume you're quite pleaded with the end result and through your willingness to venture outwards and invest in the " right " cables has only further added to your pleasure as far as purity and tonality of music being reproduced properly in your home shows without me questioning your logic, as I know what you've been getting at for over a year now - and know your ears, as well as your heart, and am very very very happy that you've arrived at such a desination in so little time - but also know that an end is near as far as questioning your next toy if you will - because in reality there are times when we can change one component or cable and all becomes lost, and it's time to look back to where said mistakes were made, and if one if wise enough to realize where they went wrong - it's best to reverse it and regroup and in most cases merely go full circle to that time and place where you were listening to music instead of components - music should be ones guide - not the electronics.

Yet, as always..........., my ramblings are meant to be short and to the point, but when I feel how passionate you or others are in discovering that magical moment where all of it comes together - I merely get caught up in the moment and have to express my deepest emotional reaction to said stories by adding my own - after all, whom doesn't have a similar story to share?.

It seems to me that you're that much closer to your final desination and should decide very carefully if in fact you do need to invest elsewhere?, or merely invest into as many DSD recordings as possible - in my world............, it's ones music collection that should matter most.

Let me end by saying - I'm proud of you for knowing and trusting in your own ears and having the willingness to build upon what you've as opposed to changing this or that merely for the sake of change, and am honored to call you my younger Brotha - because at the end of the day........, if we can be real with one another - why bother?.

Later little Brotha,
:sigh:_oh
 
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