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Hard time finding a Balance Audio Potentiometer - 2230

daveyh

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I am have trouble finding a Balance Audio Potentiometer to fit my Marantz 2230 stereo receiver. Mine is trash and will not work, I is broken internally. I would not care if I have to use a new one on it as it works and is the same specs. I have heard that a 2215, 2230 and a 2270 will work if I can find one. Has anyone replaced these before and if so, what with?
 
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The 2230 balance is R011 identified as RM0254020, a 250k-ohm double pot. Any 250k-ohm double pot with splined shaft should work for you, check eBay they always seem to have something like that. I looked in my parts box and found a RM02540220 which is a 250k-ohm double pot with splined shaft and has taps on the one side for loudness control so mine is a volume control apparently. Anyway it turns smoothly and is in good shape, should work for your application just ignore the loudness taps. Send me a PM if you want mine :)
 
You can find an alps replacement, can't you?
I had found a replacement for a 2270 balance - in fact, I think I still have one.
 
A pot with loudness taps is for volume control. Balance controls are unique in that the taper on one section is backwards from the other section.

Tom
 
Yes mine is a volume control so it would not work as a balance control, I forgot that the balance control centers rather than in CCW position. So yes you need the RM0254020 and I do not have one. The ones on eBay are repro volume controls (as in your photo above) and not balance controls. I will look through my other parts and see if I have one :)
 
I am have trouble finding a Balance Audio Potentiometer to fit my Marantz 2230 stereo receiver. Mine is trash and will not work, I is broken internally. I would not care if I have to use a new one on it as it works and is the same specs. I have heard that a 2215, 2230 and a 2270 will work if I can find one. Has anyone replaced these before and if so, what with?

I sent you a PM over a week ago when you posted it in another thread.
You never responded.

Bob
 
I sent you a PM over a week ago when you posted it in another thread.
You never responded.

Bob
Weird. A few weeks ago, I posted locally for someone for spring cleanup of my yard (huge mess left from tree removal).
I was contacted by a local guy saying he lost his job, had wife\kids in need, etc. We exchange a few emails in a day, and I'm ready to commit - he just stops responding. Nada, nothing. Weird.
Go Figure.
 
I had the same problem with my 250k balance potentiometer for my 2285 (RS02540120) but as for replacing a balance control with a volume control, as suggested earlier in this thread, it simply won’t work. The reason is that the volume control has a log (Audio Taper) whereas the balance pot has a MN taper which is linear and resistive for only 50% of the carbon track while the other 50% is purely conductive (zero Ohm) with no resistance. The two channels are reversed so when one channel is in the resistive zone then the other channel is in zero Ohm zone and vice versa. Only at center both channels are at zero Ohm.

I tried DeOxit and FaderLube it but nothing worked. The carbon tracks were broken and worn. These pots were specially made by Alps for Marantz and are no longer available. There is no manufacturer today (Alps, Bournes, Alpha etc) who makes a dual pot replacement with the correct resistance, MN taper, distance between screw holes, length and form of the shaft etc. After almost half a year of looking for a replacement I couldn’t find anything from any donor on the used market. Also 250k Ohm is rare for Marantz 22xx series which doesn’t help.

Finally I decided to rebuild my pot and after some research, I came up with the following idea: I bought LinqStat resistive plastic on eBay (they have sheets with different surface resistivity), cut a strip with length = half of total track length of the pot. Since surface resistance is proportional to the distance between two measuring points and inversely proportional to the width I had to find the proper width of the strip given the length. After some trial and error I cut the width of the strip resulting in total resistance between both short ends of the strip to equal 250k Ohm. It turns out that the width of the strip is very close to the original carbon track. After removing the carbon track, I glued this strip onto the previous location of the resistive part of the carbon track with epoxy. For the end of the strip I glued it onto the base of the lug with conductive glue. A better solution would probably be to use a new lug with a rivet through the plastic. For the non-resistive part of the track I used 1/8” wide and 1 mil thick 3M copper foil with conductive adhesive backing. The result is a pot with a smoother glide and probably less noisy (due to the conductive plastic) than the original and the taper is almost spot on. I don’t know how wear resistant the conductive plastic is nor the life length in cycles but for now it works extremely well. The good thing is that this is a linear balance pot which I rarely touch, it stays at center most of the time. One other benefit with this method is that any donor balance slide pot from the 22xx series can be rebuilt to any resistance since the form factor is the same for all models although the nominal resistance may differ. This procedure would have been quite more complicated for a volume control pot with an audio taper since that would mean merging pieces of plastic sheet with different conductivity and cut to curved shapes in order to match an audio taper.
 
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Finally I decided to rebuild my pot and after some research, I came up with the following idea: I bought LinqStat resistive plastic on eBay (they have sheets with different surface resistivity), cut a strip with length = half of total track length of the pot. Since surface resistance is proportional to the surface between two measuring points I had to find the proper width of the strip given the length .
Did you have any photos of what you did to rebuild? This was a very creative solution.....
 
That sounds great but mine has broken parts inside. I don't know how to fix that.

I had the same problem with my 250k balance potentiometer for my 2285 (RS02540120) but as for replacing a balance control with a volume control, as suggested earlier in this thread, it simply won’t work. The reason is that the volume control has a log (Audio Taper) whereas the balance pot has a MN taper which is linear and resistive for only 50% of the carbon track while the other 50% is purely conductive (zero Ohm) with no resistance. The two channels are reversed so when one channel is in the resistive zone then the other channel is in zero Ohm zone and vice versa. Only at center both channels are at zero Ohm.

I tried DeOxit and FaderLube it but nothing worked. The carbon tracks were broken and worn. These pots were specially made by Alps for Marantz and are no longer available. There is no manufacturer today (Alps, Bournes, Alpha etc) who makes a dual pot replacement with the correct resistance, MN taper, distance between screw holes, length and form of the shaft etc. After almost half a year of looking for a replacement I couldn’t find anything from any donor on the used market. Also 250k Ohm is rare for Marantz 22xx series which doesn’t help.

Finally I decided to rebuild my pot and after some research, I came up with the following idea: I bought LinqStat resistive plastic on eBay (they have sheets with different surface resistivity), cut a strip with length = half of total track length of the pot. Since surface resistance is proportional to the distance between two measuring points and inversely proportional to the width I had to find the proper width of the strip given the length. After some trial and error I cut the width of the strip resulting in total resistance between both short ends of the strip to equal 250k Ohm. It turns out that the width of the strip is very close to the original carbon track. After removing the carbon track, I glued this strip onto the previous location of the resistive part of the carbon track with epoxy. For the end of the strip I glued it onto the base of the lug with conductive glue. A better solution would probably be to use a new lug with a rivet through the plastic. For the non-resistive part of the track I used 1/8” wide and 1 mil thick 3M copper foil with conductive adhesive backing. The result is a pot with a smoother glide and probably less noisy (due to the conductive plastic) than the original and the taper is almost spot on. I don’t know how wear resistant the conductive plastic is nor the life length in cycles but for now it works extremely well. The good thing is that this is a linear balance pot which I rarely touch, it stays at center most of the time. One other benefit with this method is that any donor balance slide pot from the 22xx series can be rebuilt to any resistance since the form factor is the same for all models although the nominal resistance may differ. This procedure would have been quite more complicated for a volume control pot with an audio taper since that would mean merging pieces of plastic sheet with different conductivity and cut to curved shapes in order to match an audio taper.
 
This is not a slider like the Marantz 2215B. I think one from a 2215 without the B will fit. It looks like this. The back part is missing. The insides are broke.
 

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It seems your pot is beyond repair. It is much easier to find a rotary pot than a sliding pot as in my case. Why don't you try one of many offerings on eBay. They have a number of brand new balance pots for ca. $10 or less, similar looking to Marantz - dual, MN taper, knurled knob, split shaft and 250k. For the loudness tap you have to add an external 150k resistor to the input tap on both channels..
 
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Hi all! Came upon this thread I’m also looking for a balance control for a 2230. Looked all over can’t find one any info would be great or if you have one let me know. Thank you!
 
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