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How much to spend on cables?

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Gosh it’s been ages since I’ve been here!
When we’re told to spend 15% of our system’s value on cables, does that mean on each cable or pair of cables, or on all system cables combined?
 
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I spend minimal amounts on cables. I think the most-expensive I have is a $75 Nordost "Silver Shadow" co-ax cable. My dealer had gotten a special bargain on a bunch of them and was selling them off at near cost. My speaker cables are ones I made myself with Canare 4S11 stock, dressed them up with TechFlex sheathing, and terminated with spade terminals I bought off Amazon. My interconnects are mostly Audioquest Evergreen and Golden Gate, whatever my dealer had on the shelf without forking over big bucks.

The day I can truly, honestly hear a difference in cables, I'll spend more to get them. I borrowed a pair of Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cables from my dealer, swapped them into my system and per his instructions ran them for 2 weeks before switching back to my homemade ones. He said that's when I would "really notice" the huge difference. I didn't. They sounded the exact same.

I do NOT begrudge anyone who has different results than me. If you hear a huge difference, good for you. It's your money and I'm never judging.
 
Gosh it’s been ages since I’ve been here!
When we’re told to spend 15% of our system’s value on cables, does that mean on each cable or pair of cables, or on all system cables combined?
Depending on your system , to be honest I use decent 14 gauge wire and decent rca connectors on my vintage gear . I have seen studies where as long as it’s decent it won’t make a huge difference , others swear by high end cabling ! Maybe on super high end gear it makes more impact , but hey at least it looks cool !
 
No set rule on percentage; spend what you feel is proper and gets the job done. In my case I needed a pair of balanced interconnects last month and being retired and on a fixed income I was able to justify $400 for a 6' pair.
Better cabling makes a difference in my rig but I vividly remember a time when it didn't.
 
Gosh it’s been ages since I’ve been here!
When we’re told to spend 15% of our system’s value on cables, does that mean on each cable or pair of cables, or on all system cables combined?
Firstly i'd focus on building your system around your speakers. Hence speakers, amps, front end, a/c power and room setup/acoustics should be your first priority. But cables matter and make a difference. My philosophy is to look for cables which are good value at their price point which sound natural and have excellent build quality; and buy the best cables I can afford relative to the calibre of my system. I don't think you can break it down to percentages. There is more nuance to it than that.
 
In 1973 when I began haunting stereo shops instead of frequenting department stores, the stereo shop salesman I trusted far more than any other I'd dealt with, told me about the ten percent rule. 10% of the system's cost should be spent on cabling.

I don't recall esoteric speaker wire existing back then so I assumed he was talking about patch cords - those things now distinguished by the term interconnects. I myself could not justify spending additional money on something that was included for free with source components like turntables, tuners and tape decks.

When I got into the business myself in 1980, I began to understand the wisdom of his logic. By that time, dedicated speaker wire and upmarket patch cords began appearing with a vengeance, all with huge profit margins. A commissioned sales person would be insane not to at least try convincing a customer to part with more coin to better the weak links in their new audio chain. It was often more profitable commission wise to sell a $70 or $80 patch cord than a $500 component.

As more players emerged in the interconnect / speaker wire scene, I began to re-think quoting the 10% rule on the sales floor. Since the plethora of cord/cable options was on the rise both in choice and price, I upped that number to fifteen or twenty percent. If a customer asked what benefit they'd see by going to a higher model component, I would often counter by suggesting they stay with with what they'd picked and if they were OK with spending more, it should go towards what hooks it all together.

They seemed happy about being enlightened and I was happy ringing in the sale.
 
Gosh it’s been ages since I’ve been here!
When we’re told to spend 15% of our system’s value on cables, does that mean on each cable or pair of cables, or on all system cables combined?
I don't remember ever being told that..
But I would imagine, if you agree to that concept, it would be combined..
100,000 dollar system, 15,000 dollars of it is cables.. kinda ridiculous if you think about it..
Drop the percentage to 5, and spend the rest on important things.. like college football tickets... :biggrin:
 
Most of my interconnects are Amazon WBC/Mogami wire with Amphenol RCAs.

I do have a few I made with Belden 1505F coax with Neutrik Rean RCAs.

Speakers are Knukoncepts Kord speaker wire.

All of the above is very affordable, you don’t really notice the expenditure.
 
Sometimes I get my RCA-RCA cables free at the dump, the ones that would come with most everything you bought some years ago. I use regular brown line cord wire for speakers, making sure it's reasonably heavy, say 14 gauge. Even with most of my system being curb finds and garage sale items, I'm probably still well under 15%.

IMHO, there's no connection between the ears and the pocketbook, though there are powerful forces that want you to think so.
 
The funniest thing about this is my system only amounts to about £1100. I read on a Google article that comes onto my iPad, that you should spend about 10 - 15% of your system’s total cost on cables. My interconnects are no more than £50 each cable. My speaker wire is 14 gauge (I think) wire from Amazon and a lovely blue with gold stripe Sheathing on them. I’m not sure if it made much of a discernible difference, but they look much nicer than the white bell wires I had before.
if I was upgrading anything if I had the money for them, it would be Tannoy Stirling speakers. Maybe some day.
 
With all the different variables involved in setting up a system,I believe,if a person or business is able to pin point an exact figure of 15% on cables...it's a figure they came up with because they have skin in the game so to speak,they stand to profit $. They did not come up with that figure because it will help the audiophile get the best possible sound from the system they are using.
 
I buy all my standard connector cables at thrift stores. Specialty connector cables on Amazon, the cheaper the better! They all sound good to me as long as they work.
 
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