Can't say anything about mirror images, I still am looking for one of these , The one in my garage is mighty lonely.......
How rare are my Pioneer CS-100's?
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peterfranks
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wow. thank you so much for sharing - they are nothing short of AMAZING.
About 10years ago l came across 1 of these, just a single speaker.l held onto it for a couple. Of years thinking l 'd find it's mate, of course I didn't .It was so big I had to part it out and sell it. I kept the badge and the rear plate. Sad, I hated getting rid of that Godzilla, 1" plus thick cabinet AND it easily weighed 130 pounds.
Progducer
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I have had two pairs of these. amazingly found from two different sources via Oregon Craigslist. One pair I sold to a close friend, and the other has been in my main listening set up since. I pair with Scott 222D tube integrated. Haven't found serial numbers anywhere but maybe I don't know where to look.
woofercooker
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woofercooker
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Here is a clear view of the CS 100 inside. For anyone who is interested... Midrange drivers are 32 ohm. No. 16-23F-1 Tweeter is PT102F 16 ohms. And the second to none Woofer is PW-381A-2 16 ohm. Love to hear a pair of these someday.
woofercooker
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I have a pair of the Pioneer CS 63. Horn tweeter and midrange drivers look identical or nearly identical. Some CS 63 info... Horn Tweeter PT 103F 8 ohms and Midrange 16-29 8 ohms. Woofer PW 382A 8 ohms. The 63 Woofer is nothing near the Quality of the CS 100 woofer...
woofercooker
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And my CS 63 in the living room.
Neck Beard
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They have the PW-38 woofer in them.....impressive 24lb driver with a deeeeep cone profile. I've been looking for a pair of those woofs on the resale market for a while now.
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I picked up a pair of cd-100's from a fellow PNW AK'r. Traded my EV Interface D's for the Pioneers and some other misc.
They need a refinish which is fine with me I am pretty good at that. I hooked them up yesterday and was REALLY impressed. My main speakers are a pair of 1978 Cornwalls that I love but am interested to hear Pioneers hooked up to my main rig. Oddly enough they are almost the same size....
The cabs are rosewood..that's crazy
So my question is a simple one - Do the grilles come off? They are in there tight. The trim/frame is aluminum. I tried to wiggle them out and gently pry them with zero success. I have seen pics WITHOUT the grills so it would seem that they would come out???
I will pop the back at some point to check things out. I will likely have the crossovers updated at some point.
If I get them hooked up today I will update!
I picked up a pair of cd-100's from a fellow PNW AK'r. Traded my EV Interface D's for the Pioneers and some other misc.
They need a refinish which is fine with me I am pretty good at that. I hooked them up yesterday and was REALLY impressed. My main speakers are a pair of 1978 Cornwalls that I love but am interested to hear Pioneers hooked up to my main rig. Oddly enough they are almost the same size....
The cabs are rosewood..that's crazy
So my question is a simple one - Do the grilles come off? They are in there tight. The trim/frame is aluminum. I tried to wiggle them out and gently pry them with zero success. I have seen pics WITHOUT the grills so it would seem that they would come out???
I will pop the back at some point to check things out. I will likely have the crossovers updated at some point.
If I get them hooked up today I will update!
Dswankey
Lunatic Member
Based on this pic it looks like they are velcroed as some are the other CS-XXX speakers.
Most likely you have to remove the back panel, then remove the screws that hold the front panel on from the inside. Most Japanese speakers from the 60's and early 70's were built that way.
Mike
Contrary to what most people on AK will say, don't mess with the crossovers. Crossovers are not like amplifiers. The components just don't see the voltage or the heat that is common in amplifiers. Therefore, the components don't deteriorate. If it sounds good, it probably is good and won't likely improve with new components. If you do want to change them out, it won't likely devalue the speakers. Vintage electronics are not like vintage cars or toys. Everyone knows they've been played with and expect a certain level of wear and tear and repair that goes along with that. Also, people don't collect vintage hifi gear just to have it. They want to listen to it. So they expect it to work.
I'm not sold on updating the crossovers, I agree. My cornwalls are original and I love em that way.
Am going to spend some time today investigating the grills. Going to employ my teenage son who has better eyes.
Will have some pics up soon. Am refinishing the cabs which were a bit rough but overall in good shape. Rosewood is not the easiest wood to refinish
Am going to spend some time today investigating the grills. Going to employ my teenage son who has better eyes.
Will have some pics up soon. Am refinishing the cabs which were a bit rough but overall in good shape. Rosewood is not the easiest wood to refinish
woofercooker
Well-Known Member
I used a spoon with tape on the tip of the spoon so I won't scratch the speaker.
I tried something similar, a couple of very thin knives with tape on the end. I jimmied them in and then tried to work the frame off. No go. It is on there TIGHT. When I take the backs off I will have a better idea maybe of what I am dealing with.
I used a flashlight to look at the drivers and they all seem fine and they all seem original.
Am 75% done with the refinishing. Here's a pic in progress. CHECK OUT THAT ROSEWOOD
I used a flashlight to look at the drivers and they all seem fine and they all seem original.
Am 75% done with the refinishing. Here's a pic in progress. CHECK OUT THAT ROSEWOOD
