I'm a stacker!

[Isotonic]

The thing is, I don't care how much one knows, or thinks one knows, about acoustics, one cannot make concrete statements about acoustical aspects and expect them to be true in all instances.

I have a quadraphonic system with stacked original Advents in each corner and my computer desk is facing the side, in between the front right and back right speakers so that is where I am sitting a lot of the time with music playing.

In spite of all the assertions of this type of arrangement destroying any imaging or soundstaging (I have come to HATE that term), I am often struck by hearing an instrument or voice so real next to me that I turn my head almost expecting to see somebody there singing or playing.

Doug

I am almost finished with restoration of my Stacked Advents. I finally got them hooked up. I have a couple of Hafler 220's driving them. I had always been curious about the accolades they recieve in this configuration.

Well, it's true. They sound marvelous. Huge sound, detail across the frequency spectrum. Forward and natural sounding. The famous tweeter anomalies are there, but the bigness and clarity are so strong that they overwhelm the weaknesses. I just need to finish the grills. I thought I would set it all up, then sell them but I am afraid these are keepers. None of my other speakers, including DQ10, Thiel, Canton, Jubal, etc have the specific strengths that the stacked Advents do.

The take home for me. Trust your ears over theory, name brand or guru.

 

[jimmyboy1932]

I thought you were a stacker, in till I read speakerhenge! now thats a stack!...lol

 

[michaelhigh]

My latest stack? I have a Zen Triode Select (SET, 4 watts total) that loves 2 ohms per side, so I have Fortes in combo with kg2's on top! Gloriously singing, I might add.

 

[lewtex]

Stacker AND side-by-eacher!!!

 

[dc270]

I am a "stacker" as well.....with a vengence!
DC

 

[I.R.Brainiac]

If you stack ,beware of climbing critters.

 

[budgetaudio6]

short stack :yes:

wheres the speakers?

 

[budgetaudio6]

I.R, how do you like your maggies? Gave mine away a while back.

 

[I.R.Brainiac]

Hey there Budget...if your looking at the speakers GINO is climbing on,the top ones are Phillips from some mini system.The bottom ones are Klipsch 1.2's.

By their self each was OK but lacking in some aspect...together with a sub they were VERY pleasing.

 

[Love-Vinyl]

Hi my name is David and I'm a stacker.

I'd never really tried this myself but what inspired me was some problems I thought I was having with an AT cartridge. It turned out to be the tweeters on my Paradigm Studio Ref 60v2's. Their peaks were coinciding too close together creating some harsh music. Had no place convenient to put them in the tight place I have this setup so put my Infinity Qe's on top of the 60's and they sounded great! Hmmm. Now I like the punch and clarity of the bass the 60's have the little Qe's don't. A little head scratching and I thought since the 60's can be biamped, why don't I just remove the clips between and hook up the bottom end leaving the tweeters out of the picture. Then run the Qe's full on with the bottom augmented by the 60's.

Magic! I knew they have almost the exact same sensitivity and ohm curves almost identical to each other so why not? Now I'm enjoying music in a way I couldn't with either one alone. I know one thing for sure I won't be changing this setup anytime soon. I'm addicted. Someone else can go to the meetings but I'm staying home and putting on some more records!

 

[budgetaudio6]

I.R. yeah i was referring to the phillips. I wonder if that tweet is a real ribbon. They are a tad boomy so i gave mine away.

 

[michaelhigh]

If you stack ,beware of climbing critters.

Trust me, no critters here to piss on my beloved speakers...:thumbsdn:There are priorities to observe, mind you.

 

[JoeESP9]

You better read my post a little more clearly . If one driver can influence from one speaker to another , than I would imagine one driver could influence other drivers in the same enclosure .

Isn't that why "good" speakers use closed back midranges and tweeters and/or separate sub enclosures for them.

 

[vsat88]

Me stacks however, I only use one set at the time. Just a temporary place to listen. However, If I had real stack style speakers I would be a stacking in hog heaven !!
(building a stairway to heaven..LOL) Best regards, vsat 88.

 

[kfa888]

I stacked a matching set of KLH 23's and drove them with a G8000 Sansui and WOW!!!! Set them up that way quickly to sell as the buyer was on his way, did not want to sell after that but already committed.

 

[Hendrix416]

This was once my stack in my music room. This would have worked if my room was larger, but three sets of speakers were too much for the 13x13 ft room. I sold all except the CVs. 80% of my listening is rock oriented so it made sense to keep the CVs, plus they sound amazing at low volumes as well as when they're cranked up.

More power to you, OP for stacking. Don't listen to these people who tell you you NEED to get rid of all but one pair of speakers. If your ears like the sound, then that's all that matters.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the infamous "Shock and Awe" system from a former AK member.

 

[toxcrusadr]

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165025&highlight=stacking&page=3

For those who might be curious, Page 3, Post 44, graphically illustrates the comb filtering created by multiple tweeters.

 

[kfa888]

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165025&highlight=stacking&page=3

For those who might be curious, Page 3, Post 44, graphically illustrates the comb filtering created by multiple tweeters.

- That is one orientation and one test.

- Loads of well regarded speakers and more than one tweeter per, some have small piles.

Let your ears say yes or no.

 

[bob s]

You have to respect the work done by Zilch (RIP) in his quest to deliver more data and less wank, however, his test was done with matching systems in different stacking arrangments. I for one have tried stacking different systems, each with their own strenghts and weaknesses. It's true sometimes the sound gets blured but , done in small increments, sometimes only 1/4 inch makes an audible change. I also discovered some systems woofers move opposite than you would expect (tested with a battery, and or low frequency audio tone, 10-15 hz. So you do need to be carefull in wiring, phasing and placement. In my current situation, I have a pair of Genesis II's driven by a Toshiba (don't laugh) SA-5000 receiver, with a pair of Signet SL-280's stacked on top, driven by my Yamaha HT receiver. I mostly listen to music only on the Toshiba/Genesis combination, however, when the urge strikes to do something crazy, I'll fire up both systems and tweak the levels so it sounds "live", not the most scientific method for sure, but whem I put some of my best test music on, like Dire Straits, or the soundtrack from The Dark Knight, or Yellowjackets "Live Wires", well, it is suprisingly effective. This is a hobby, after all, and each listening situation is different than any laboratory. Enjoy the music, what ever pushes your buttons.

 

[toxcrusadr]

I would certainly not argue with anyone's ears or preferences, and for those of you who have tinkered around with it, more power to ya. I only posted the Zilch thread in case there were folks reading here who weren't familiar with the concept.

Obviously there are good speakers with multiple tweeters, so it can be done with careful engineering. Generally speaking, careful engineering isn't available to most listeners. Matching speakers or not, two drivers are going to interact. The effects may be subtle, and they may actually be pleasing to some. As long as people are doing informed tinkering, life is way too short for me to spend time on a stacking soapbox.