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IMF owners thread!

What is the sensitivity of the TLS50's?

I am thinking of getting a EL84 single ended stereo valve amp, but power is only 1.8 watt. Would it drive these? I don't listen at high volume?
 
canuckaudiog said:
Yep, that's a good way of putting it.
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Yanno, I just noticed the D"Appolito configuration and if I take off my reading glasses, this almost looks like an R104/2! :yes:

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Curlycat said:
I am getting the Maverick A1 Hybrid Tube amp with 20WPC, maily to use as a headphone amp, but of course I am very keen to hook it up to my TLS50's. Will report back when I have received it.

Anyone has any experience with the TLS50's and tube amps?
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I have been listening to the Maverick Audio A1 Tubemagic now for a while. I hooked it up to my TLS50 as an experiment too see how they treat each other... Well many days have past and I still have it connected to my TLS50's :) Seems like it's going to stay that way. :thmbsp:

I am not fluent in audiophile speak so here goes. Most of my listening is done at low levels. The amplifier at 20WPC is clearly not a rocker for parties.
Bass is much more controlled and not as guttural when compared to the NAD or Linn amps. (or others I have used in the past) It is more composed and yet richer in a way that is hard to describe.
Mids are awesome. Voices and acoustic instruments, like guitars, come to life. Smooth and clear. Rich and full sounding. I hear sounds that I've not heard before.
Highs are very good. It is subtle, but not soft.

I am very happy with the little amp. I love the sound it produces.
 
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Curlycat said:
I have been listening to the Maverick Audio A1 Tubemagic now for a while. I hooked it up to my TLS50 as an experiment too see how they treat each other... Well many days have past and I still have it connected to my TLS50's :) Seems like it's going to stay that way. :thmbsp:

I am not fluent in audiophile speak so here goes. Most of my listening is done at low levels. The amplifier at 20WPC is clearly not a rocker for parties.
Bass is much more controlled and not as guttural when compared to the NAD or Linn amps. (or others I have used in the past) It is more composed and yet richer in a way that is hard to describe.
Mids are awesome. Voices and acoustic instruments, like guitars, come to life. Smooth and clear. Rich and full sounding. I hear sounds that I've not heard before.
Highs are very good. It is subtle, but not soft.

I am very happy with the little amp. I love the sound it produces.
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That's great to hear! It's amazing what a quality amplifier can do for your setup. The IMFs are worth upgrading everything for, because as you can tell as you upgrade your source and amplification they improve with it. Eventually I want to get a really nice integrated or separates for my IMFs, the Kenwood receiver is good with them but it's obvious they want something much nicer.
 
I'm having a hard time with my studio's right now. I have them in a wide open room about 18" off the wall and 60" apart, with HF tweeters on the outside, and just can't seem to adjust to them with rock, be it dire straights or dead kennedy's. The room is about 35' x 12' and the setup is in the middle along the wall, I listen about 8 ft back, which puts me right in front of the fireplace. Love the bass hit on the drums, but the mid base to the lower vocals seems to be doing something weird, can't quite put my finger on it but seems closed off and muffled.....classical, electronic, hiphop all sound great. jazz depends a lot on what it is.

I've tried a number of amp/receivers some vintage, modern and in between. None of the vintage gear is restored and the modern stuff is an onkyo integra from the 90's and an outlaw rr2150 so good clear amplification with these.

Thanks for any input.
 
c-atle-79bay said:
I'm having a hard time with my studio's right now. I have them in a wide open room about 18" off the wall and 60" apart, with HF tweeters on the outside, and just can't seem to adjust to them with rock, be it dire straights or dead kennedy's. The room is about 35' x 12' and the setup is in the middle along the wall, I listen about 8 ft back, which puts me right in front of the fireplace. Love the bass hit on the drums, but the mid base to the lower vocals seems to be doing something weird, can't quite put my finger on it but seems closed off and muffled.....classical, electronic, hiphop all sound great. jazz depends a lot on what it is.

I've tried a number of amp/receivers some vintage, modern and in between. None of the vintage gear is restored and the modern stuff is an onkyo integra from the 90's and an outlaw rr2150 so good clear amplification with these.

Thanks for any input.
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Has this been an issue before with the speakers? Or are you experiencing this now?

Also have you tried other speakers in this same room?

How close are the speakers to the walls? What material are the walls made of, and what floor is the room on?
 
This is the first time I've had to really turn them up, so I think this is the listening difference, sorry left that out. Lower volumes, 75db ish, not as noticeable.

I've run my tannoys (12 DC Golds) and have not noticed this, but I'm very conservative with them. I also ran my suquerros and did not notice it either, but again I'm more conservative with these and neither on modern gear.

They are 18" off the back wall, hardwood and carpets, speakers are set on carpet and walls are lath and plaster, this is the main floor, basement below and 2nd above.
 
c-atle-79bay said:
This is the first time I've had to really turn them up, so I think this is the listening difference, sorry left that out. Lower volumes, 75db ish, not as noticeable.

I've run my tannoys (12 DC Golds) and have not noticed this, but I'm very conservative with them. I also ran my suquerros and did not notice it either, but again I'm more conservative with these and neither on modern gear.

They are 18" off the back wall, hardwood and carpets, speakers are set on carpet and walls are lath and plaster, this is the main floor, basement below and 2nd above.
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When you push the bass woofers in, do the mids come out on either one?
 
No cone movement. I think overall the 2 units I was driving them with were just not good matches. The Integra a-809 is a monster and the outlaw r2150 is kinda subtle power, does not look of feel it but has it (one stays). Anyways, played with placement and things did improve a bit. Meh overall, at higher volumes

I pulled my venerable HH Scott 388B out, 65 watts, that's being kind I think, anyway sounds great, really this receiver just keeps stunning me, but it really sounds good on the STUDIO'S good tight bass, highs are still a bit rolled off with these speakers so I add a bit on the controls.

I've decided these IMF's have a optimal volume level they like for rock. So just going to live with that notion.
 
c-atle-79bay said:
No cone movement. I think overall the 2 units I was driving them with were just not good matches. The Integra a-809 is a monster and the outlaw r2150 is kinda subtle power, does not look of feel it but has it (one stays). Anyways, played with placement and things did improve a bit. Meh overall, at higher volumes

I pulled my venerable HH Scott 388B out, 65 watts, that's being kind I think, anyway sounds great, really this receiver just keeps stunning me, but it really sounds good on the STUDIO'S good tight bass, highs are still a bit rolled off with these speakers so I add a bit on the controls.

I've decided these IMF's have a optimal volume level they like for rock. So just going to live with that notion.
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Interesting. Well, I've never lived with an early IMF design such as the Studios so I can't comment on if that's to be expected with their earliest designs. Perhaps this was something they addressed as they improved their speakers.


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Thinking it could also be age, years and years of loud headphone music and it's affect on my hearing. And just generally being more of a gear head with a tin ear.

But on Classical and EDM ambient etc these things are the bees knees.
 
Found a set of what I believe to the STUDIO's in a local stereo store this weekend, could not verify the driver compliment for certain because the new grills were glued on. They, Hawthorne Stereo called them Monitor II's, a quick search revealed nothing on those.

They also had a set of Bud Fried MTM's, will head back for a listen to both of them and use it as and excuse to audition some amps, an MC2105 in particular.
 
c-atle-79bay said:
Found a set of what I believe to the STUDIO's in a local stereo store this weekend, could not verify the driver compliment for certain because the new grills were glued on. They, Hawthorne Stereo called them Monitor II's, a quick search revealed nothing on those.

They also had a set of Bud Fried MTM's, will head back for a listen to both of them and use it as and excuse to audition some amps, an MC2105 in particular.
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The Pro Monitor went through a few iterations, there was indeed a Pro Monitor II.. I've seen a magazine cover with a review of it. I wonder if that's what they mean? I have no idea how to identify it but I am sure the badge on the back would speak to it.
 
Canuckaudiog,

what do you think of the imf super compacts? I saw a set for sale and was kind of interested in them. I am pretty sure you have heard a set.
 
cbn700 said:
Canuckaudiog,

what do you think of the imf super compacts? I saw a set for sale and was kind of interested in them. I am pretty sure you have heard a set.
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Great speakers with the same character sound as the big IMFs, but in a small package. Surprising bass for their size as well, definitely a great speaker. If the tweeters are original they might sound a bit dull, the dome dries out over the years (Audax put a coating on them). I've been trying to find a material to use to recoat the domes but haven't found anything yet. Falcon does sell a replacement tweeter that fits right in, and sounds great.
 
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