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IMF owners thread!

I totally will! We are having lunch in madison so I wont be in indy for another six hours or so but I will post pics etc soon. Thanks as always for the support!

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Just got these downstairs to listen...no evaluations for now as I am beat after driving all day back from vacation. Photos are attached.
 

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Looks like they need a little cosmetic TLC, but overall nice! I sure didn't enjoy hauling my IMFs up 3 flights of stairs when I originally got mine so I know the feeling!


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Just got these downstairs to listen...no evaluations for now as I am beat after driving all day back from vacation. Photos are attached.

They were..had to have my neighbor help get them into my basement!

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Hey mccarty, looking good! I think they will clean up nicely and look fine. I haven't decided what to do regarding grilles, I've been eyeing some grille fabric on Ebay normally used for JBL's and they come in about 6 colors. I think that building some frames with beveled inner edges or foam lining will be easier than trying to get some large flat or reticulated acoustically transparent foam (like used on larger JBL speakers like L200) cut to size.

They do look a lot like the RSPM VII as we discussed. Happy to hear about all drivers working properly - that's a great start. Got a feeling they will need to be up on stands a bit, anywhere from 6-12 inches depending on your seated listening height and how the low line terminus interacts with your room.
 
I am working with Jerry now, sent him xover pics, etc. as he said these are pretty rare and he wants to make sure that I get the proper caps from Falcon. I was disappointed to find that the wires are soldered to the woofers and that they don't go back to an edge connector for the PCB like I found in other British speakers. It was always nice to remove and edge connector and take the whole crossover out, looks like it won't be as easy here as the leads go right into the PCB.

I agree, these will clean up well, I'm going to do the best work I can (I am absolutely not a woodworker but I'm learning and motivated) and will post pictures as things go.

Mech, I am actually going to order 1/2 inch 30pp pore open cell foam from the foam factory. You can get a massive sheet for a reasonable price and reading other forums I think others have used them for foam grills with much success. Mine have the velcro still on the baffle so I think this will work out well. My fear with building frames, etc. is that IMF quoted in their ad that using the foam grills reduced diffraction on the baffle, etc. Whether this was pure PR or not you'd know quite a bit better than I would. Thank you for helping me find these!!!

Agreed, with the tweeters down low I think they need to be on stands and some type of tilt. My listening was brief due to exhaustion but I felt that the bass was amazing (my god how liquid...not one not bass here but articulate and oh so low...played Bela Fleck "flight of the cosmic hippo" and these hit all the low notes that my AR9's could hit with aplomb and IMO even tighter from the IMF's if that is possible) and the mids were great. The highs IMO were reticent but that could be due to my seated listening position and the fact that the tweet/super tweets are down low on these. I need to get them up as you advise and re-address this. I also am not taking the highs seriously with the ancient caps in these units, I'm sure that they play a part. Still sound very good even with my brief session. I love the look of the wood and am eager to cosmetically work on these as well.

John
 
Sounds like it should be fun for Jerry to figure out the Professional III crossover. I prefer hard solder to edge connectors of old, I'm sure they were fine as KEF used them a lot, but the sure connection in my mind beats the convenience, even if you're going to have to label, then unsolder at the crossover - especially as its kinda difficult to get to the drivers' mounting unless you take off the baffle. OTOH, you might be looking to renew the wiring as well to drivers and input connector.

Thanks for the tip on the foam, I keep forgetting about other online resources. I'll check out the foam factory. As for diffraction issues, probably some truth to that although some have addressed that using felt/foam around the tweeters, a la LS3/5a, while others put triangular or square foam along the inner edges of the grill frames. I suppose the large foam grill would reduce diffraction too. I mean, look at that fairly deep aluminum edge frame that IMF used on most of their large speakers, cosmetically its nice (and mostly unique, only a few other speakers used it), but it certainly would add edge and step issues to the baffle, theoretically at least.

Was the previous owner using them much or have they been sitting for awhile? If sitting, the overall sound might open up a bit as the caps reform somewhat with applied voltage - OTOH, dried out electrolytics don't come back to complete capacity, and these are at least 30 years old.

Love to hear your continued impressions as you get more listening time.
 
Oh, and was there any back story to how these speakers ended up in Wisconsin and their history?
 
I like the ability to get the crossover completely out. I usually clean the edge connectors both on the edge and internals while I'm in there.

The wiring looks all good so I am probably going to leave it intact, unless there is corrosion I'm not a big believer in gains based on replacing in-speaker wiring unless there is an actual issue.

The foam factory you can probably fulfill the entire need with the 1/2 inch thick 30ppm 1/2 roll for I think $16.99 plus $12.99 shipping. Looking at other threads it looks like very similar material to what the remnants in my lower ports were composed of.

I thought the same of the aluminum edge i.e. that it would be counterproductive from a sound quality perspective but when I was placing the bottom speaker face down in the back of my vehicle knowing that edge would keep the drivers off the ground and safe I thought it was a pretty damn good feature ;)

I will provide my thoughts as I continue on, I have one speaker in my work room coated with a thick layer of citristrip (everywhere except the front baffle and back) so that I can get right to refinishing. They might be down for a few days while I hit the cosmetics.

Sounds like it should be fun for Jerry to figure out the Professional III crossover. I prefer hard solder to edge connectors of old, I'm sure they were fine as KEF used them a lot, but the sure connection in my mind beats the convenience, even if you're going to have to label, then unsolder at the crossover - especially as its kinda difficult to get to the drivers' mounting unless you take off the baffle. OTOH, you might be looking to renew the wiring as well to drivers and input connector.

Thanks for the tip on the foam, I keep forgetting about other online resources. I'll check out the foam factory. As for diffraction issues, probably some truth to that although some have addressed that using felt/foam around the tweeters, a la LS3/5a, while others put triangular or square foam along the inner edges of the grill frames. I suppose the large foam grill would reduce diffraction too. I mean, look at that fairly deep aluminum edge frame that IMF used on most of their large speakers, cosmetically its nice (and mostly unique, only a few other speakers used it), but it certainly would add edge and step issues to the baffle, theoretically at least.

Was the previous owner using them much or have they been sitting for awhile? If sitting, the overall sound might open up a bit as the caps reform somewhat with applied voltage - OTOH, dried out electrolytics don't come back to complete capacity, and these are at least 30 years old.

Love to hear your continued impressions as you get more listening time.
 
So the seller is a mover that runs a pawn shop on the side. He was moving a husband/wife attorney couple and they left the IMF's in the house, they had been the original owners that actually purchased them but with the dissolved foam and weight they just told him that he could take them if he wanted them.

Oh, and was there any back story to how these speakers ended up in Wisconsin and their history?
 
So the seller is a mover that runs a pawn shop on the side. He was moving a husband/wife attorney couple and they left the IMF's in the house, they had been the original owners that actually purchased them but with the dissolved foam and weight they just told him that he could take them if he wanted them.

Wow! Crazy! :smoke:
 
Guys, is Jerry the only point of contact at Falcon? Is he the owner?

I get very intermittent responses i.e. he requested that I send him crossover photos and values last week and zero response still as of today.
 
Guys, is Jerry the only point of contact at Falcon? Is he the owner?

I get very intermittent responses i.e. he requested that I send him crossover photos and values last week and zero response still as of today.


Yeah, he is. He should respond eventually.


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Okay. I just want to get my stuff ordered...I'm pretty excited. Been working on the cosmetics for now....citrus stripped one cab (except for the baffle) down to bare wood, fixed the scratches with steam iron, rebuilt the one rounded off corner with wood putty, stained with two coats of minwax special walnut, now adding layers of thinned out poly. Would rather be recapping and listening than working on cosmetics however.
 
Yeah fair enough! I know that feeling for sure since that's the most important part.

John, would you be able to send me the pictures of the crossover? I'd like to have a look myself. I can't remember if I gave you my e-mail address or not.
 
Yeah, sorry, I am just overly excited/impatient ;)

Shot you my e-mail in PM, just shoot me an e-mail and I'll reply. The pictures are nothing great considering they are taken with a phone through the woofer hole, etc. Since I haven't removed the xover I haven't been able to identify all values but here is what I have found so far:

4uf black npe
6 uf alcap
60uf bipolar
30uf bipolar
12uf black npe
100uf bipolar
2.2mfd blue mylar
2.5 uf brown mylar
1uf brown mylar
1uf brown mylar
2.2uf blue mylar
 
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So the foam factory roll of 1/2" thick foam arrived. That size was perfect i.e. it flush mounted with the aluminum baffle ridge. The color was okay, there seem to be some reflective flecks in the color that I am not a fan of but for this application it worked well. Note that the decomposed foam in the lower TL output slots was also replaced with the same 1/2 foam to good effect.
 

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So the foam factory roll of 1/2" thick foam arrived. That size was perfect i.e. it flush mounted with the aluminum baffle ridge. The color was okay, there seem to be some reflective flecks in the color that I am not a fan of but for this application it worked well. Note that the decomposed foam in the lower TL output slots was also replaced with the same 1/2 foam to good effect.

Nice, did you order the original roll and cut to size or have them cut it to your spec?
 
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