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IMF owners thread!

Hi,luv'r nice speaker,for shure with IMF so many years, he got some good learning experience.Because he was one of the best to bring you closer to the real thing.
 
Yeah, we could consider ourselves lucky to have the opportunity to hear & own any IMF or Fried loudspeaker !
 
Yvan_donald said:
Hi,luv'r nice speaker,for shure with IMF so many years, he got some good learning experience.Because he was one of the best to bring you closer to the real thing.
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And let's not forget John Wright... some will argue he was the real force behind IMF and later TDL, and that Bud was all about the Marketing! :smoke:

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Hi,I love the way he was writing his report like a good story,and yes John Wright his the master behind IMF,but it is because Mr.Fried put the idea to create the brand,He was the captain (Fried).They where both hard head,that,s why they decide to split.I seriously believe at the beginning,they need each other to achieve what they have done.Yvan
 
yvan_donald said:
hi,i love the way he was writing his report like a good story,and yes john wright his the master behind imf,but it is because mr.fried put the idea to create the brand,he was the captain (fried).they where both hard head,that,s why they decide to split.i seriously believe at the beginning,they need each other to achieve what they have done.yvan
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+ 1 Well said...and we all benefit aurally from their efforts as combined. The NYC Bud Fried Audio seminars where he lectured often were said to really be something -a great learning experience. There is an AK'er that attended many of those Fried Audio lectures (I think every lecture).

Always learning something new here on AK too !
 
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Anyone know what SPL db the TDL Reference Standard can produce, and same question for any large IMF (or Fried). Maybe someone has done measurements. Always wondered, never seen a figure. Only curious, it doesn't really mean anything, but I bet the TDL RS may achieve a higher SPL db measurement if all other outside factors were equal among brands (an equal, fair test, A-B-C'd, same front source gear, etc).

Not that volume matters at all, but just curious - of all IMF, Fried & TDL - which probably can hit the highest SPL db ? Any numbers to report ?
 
Hi,yes TDL-FRIED all good,but I prefer IMF maybe because the special position of their units.It's very unique,old school technique, made no matter to the cost,like a good music instrument,with love.Yvan
 
+1 me too all around, prefer IMF. IMF is very high quality components & craftsmanship, well said like a musical instrument. Often we compare the sound of my RSPM T-line bass to the real-life resonance of a real-life upright acoustic bass (instrument). The IMF replication for timbre & tonality, depth & resonance is right on; not just due to the t-line, but the cubic meters of cabinetry also contribute to this as a combined physic.

Some great solo-acoustic upright bass music recordings are so "real" with the IMF you really hear it as if the bassist was playing the instrument right where the speaker is. I like Stanley Clarke (both acoustic-upright & also electric bass) recordings for this effect.
 
Luv's they have metal dome tweeter's,the IMF HPCM should be good for that,probably around 105 db?TDL reference move a lot of air for shure,both of these company they didn't make their speaker to achieve this goal.TL take a lot of the energy,no back wave,only shaking the basement.
 
Bizarre you talking about him,I was listening today Stanley Clark with Chick Corea,special evening DVD.Great musicians
 
luvmusik said:
Anyone know what SPL db the TDL Reference Standard can produce, and same question for any large IMF (or Fried). Maybe someone has done measurements. Always wondered, never seen a figure. Only curious, it doesn't really mean anything, but I bet the TDL RS may achieve a higher SPL db measurement if all other outside factors were equal among brands (an equal, fair test, A-B-C'd, same front source gear, etc).

Not that volume matters at all, but just curious - of all IMF, Fried & TDL - which probably can hit the highest SPL db ? Any numbers to report ?
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Realize the 3 brands were made not intending for high volume application. But, an AK'er once asked me exactly this - because he had a very large room ( I recall @ 35' x 45') and wanted a set of IMF for that room. Certainly they could be used there for nice listening, yet that size room is a power-challenge if wanting the music to "fill the room" at volume.

There may be other readers considering the 3 brands who like some volume, and the higher-SPL in db models may get them to where they are comfortable without overdriving. It could be costly say: to use 2 pair RSPM, either as stereo 2 channel with 2 speakers side by side (& hurting imaging), or same 4 but positioned 1 speaker out from each 4 corners pointed center (which gives a beautiful "fullness" of room sound & apparent feel of more loudness). Not quad-decoded, but 4-corner stereo - it is a nice treat if anyone has tried it - must sit perfectly central in room for the sweet spot, but can be anywhere in the center for great effect. I have tried it with smaller speakers and the whole room just opens-up nicely, helping solve the power-challenged speaker. Two ways can wire the stereo - a) as L on the one side wall of room and R on opposite side wall - or b.) a real treat to experience is to alternate the stereo wiring clockwise around the room circumference as L-R-L-R from the 4 corners. This is surely a treat if anyone has tried it. On heavy-panned recordings (great extreme channel-seperation songs are abundant), the music plays thru-out the room with sorta like an around the room rotational feel -it is a nice experiment in that wiring. Careful positioning & seating doesn't create any overwhelming cancellation of wavelengths, but to some extent that can happen, unlike 2-speaker stereo front-on. Another trick we used with just 2 speakers is the "opposite-corner" positioning - this too, gave an "apparent" feel of more volume, seated centered. It felt like the volume was higher this way than with all else the same placed traditionally in front.

So, some do ask about achievable volume because of their room size, rather than head-banging. These tricks can be tried and are really fun. It may be some of the Fried models that were just before the current line selling now, that may offer high SPL - Not sure, but it could help some readers in the very-large room situation who really want the IMF sound (or TDL, Fried).
 
Yvan_donald said:
Luv's they have metal dome tweeter's,the IMF HPCM should be good for that,probably around 105 db?TDL reference move a lot of air for shure,both of these company they didn't make their speaker to achieve this goal.TL take a lot of the energy,no back wave,only shaking the basement.
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Good point. 4 HPCM positioned each out from a corner pointed to a center foci would be something special to experience. I know this effect is not purist 2 channel listening, but if ever getting 4 exact same model speakers of any kind, it has to be tried ! It really is different & more of an omnidirectional-feel of sound rather than normal front-on listening. For wanting absolute sound purist 2 channel stereo this effect defeats some important attributes. But, for just experimenting, pure fun, or solving a volume-challenged situation in a very large room -say like a very large finished basement dedicated to audio - it is effective. Some with that size room also would prefer up to 4 entire seperate different sets of speakers for much lower volume handling, but audio-characteristic variety & uniqueness playing only 1 set at any time.
 
many good bassist: Jaco Pastorious,Avishai Cohen,Ray Brown,Ron Carter,Percy Heath,Marcus Miller,John Patitucci,Steve Rodby,Tal Wilkenfeld to name a few.
 
Maybe one on top of each other on special rack,or right left right left away from each other,8 feets but more distance in center from each other on the 35 feet wide or 45 feet ?
 
Yvan_donald said:
Bizarre you talking about him,I was listening today Stanley Clark with Chick Corea,special evening DVD.Great musicians
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Hugh fan here, and RTF especially, glad to meet a fellow-enthusiast ! SC was raised nearby here in Philly, PA, went to Overbrook HS, and I heard him playing when he was 18 y.o. at Philadelphia Music Academy (PMA) - a music college he & Gerry Brown (from CC band) attended together. At 18 his playing was already so special of a talent - already World Class. Not sure if PMA is there any longer (center of Philly). Have seen SC, CC, RTF all perform together or in their own bands countless times live, too many to count.

An IMF workout is Return To Forever - The Romantic Warrior - entire album, cover to cover and for an IMF bass workout - Stanley Clarke's 2nd solo lp (called "the Brown album" as nickname) which is only self-titled "Stanley Clarke" -tracks - particularly - Lopsy Lu, Vulcan Princess(Worlds), Life Suite Part 2 & Power. That lp features SC, Jan Hammer, Tony Williams, Bill Connors - stellar. If you like non-electric/pure acoustic - that same SC album tracks -entire Life Suite 14 minutes & Spanish Phases for Strings and Bass 6 minutes, are simply mostly all just solo upright acoustic bass & wonderful sound and playing. Also like Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Tarkus for extreme bass workout, and tune "Lucky Man" as great demo piece as an all-arounder piece for all elements.

So many more in rotation on my "showcasing" list here to demonstrate speakers, maybe you like those listed above here.
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