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Is Crosley a problem for Vinyl revival?

My 18 year old niece opened hers here in my house on Christmas, she listened to it for about 40mins and was all giddy, I asked her if she would like to hear what vinyl is capable of sounding like. Took her in the basement and spun a song from AJA and Arethas greatest hits. She did not turn the Crosley back on the rest of the day.

A good uncle would follow that performance by replacing that Crosley with a uturn orbit at minimum.


I just gifted my niece and nephew with a 1229, sansui 2000 a, and a pair of DLS 529s.


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My 18 year old niece opened hers here in my house on Christmas, she listened to it for about 40mins and was all giddy, I asked her if she would like to hear what vinyl is capable of sounding like. Took her in the basement and spun a song from AJA and Arethas greatest hits. She did not turn the Crosley back on the rest of the day.

Sad dude just sad.
 
Wow what a downer uncle! Lol.

I hooked up my nephew with a vintage system!

I told her and her mom this summer that I would give her a system she could spin vinyl on if she wanted one. I think the cuteness of the all in one suckered them in. I did give her a vintage table top for her dorm room though.
 
My mother gave me an ION USB table for Christmas when I started to get back in to it heavy. I never really gave vinyl up. I would occasionally spin an LP or two or make a digital transfer for co-workers. I used my Radio Shack Lab-450 with the AT92e from the later 80's until 2010. The ION USB was meant to make things easier. It led me to find a better table than what I had. The Lab-450 had too much surface noise for my liking for digital transfers.
 
My 15 year old daughter wanted a Crosley ,so I made some research and the reviews we sooo bad (saying they damaged the records ) that I bought her a vintage Technics SL-1200 MK2 instead for X-Mass. I think she likes it , we went treasure hunting (records) in vinyl stores in Montreal today... Precious moments :thmbsp:

Crosley TT's are certainly getting a new generation back into vinyls but please do not play ANY of your vinyls in your collection on that.....
 
I think the kids today have much better exposure to at least some decent tunes than when many of us were young. The cars and trucks today, and even our boats today have better sounding systems then a large portion of the population in the 1950s tru 1970's. When I was a kid and all they way until the 8 track and cassettes came out the standard fare was an old AM radio with one speaker in the dash with a few push buttons to set the stations. Top 40's was the fare. Give me a car today and an Ipod over what we had back then anyday. The Crosby's have really nothing more to do with sound than a novelty, to help the insecure young people who think the only way to be cool is to tell your friends I have vinyls too?
 
I think a lot of people forget how awful those cheap all-in-one systems in the 80s were...and how many of us kids loved them to death and played our records on them year after year. What is Crosley today was Sanyo or Goldstar in the 80s. It's not like it's a new phenomenon.

Who cares as long as people are enjoying the music?
 
I think a lot of people forget how awful those cheap all-in-one systems in the 80s were...and how many of us kids loved them to death and played our records on them year after year. What is Crosley today was Sanyo or Goldstar in the 80s. It's not like it's a new phenomenon.

Who cares as long as people are enjoying the music?

Yeah but in the 80s you could go i. A store and pick from a wide range in quality and price. Today not so much, its mostly a crosley or a crosley in most real life stores.
 
As a younger person, I find it fascinating to read so many posts about why people in my demographic buy records and that we don't know/understand anything about sound quality.
 
As a younger person, I find it fascinating to read so many posts about why people in my demographic buy records and that we don't know/understand anything about sound quality.

True. That is funny. I find it a little arrogant that people assume current gen dont know what good sound is. As if everyone in 1977 only listened to hifi.
 
True. That is funny. I find it a little arrogant that people assume current gen dont know what good sound is. As if everyone in 1977 only listened to hifi.

Exactly. Its seems a lot of people here assume that back in the 70s and 80s, everyone with a turntable was an audiophile. How many people even knew how to swap a stylus or clean a record?
At the end of the day if a crappy crosley gets someone into vinyl, great. And if it puts them off it, well that's also fine. And if they ruin a heap of records (because no one's ever ruined a record with a proper turntable have they?) that's fine too as long as they're not my records.
 
Sometimes they need to become aware by getting a demo of a high quality stereo. They just don't know there's a huge difference until they actually hear it.

Yeah, and IME most people having heard the difference still don't give a damn. Which is aces with me.
 
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Think about how music is consumed now. In the past 10-15 years the appreciation of music has gone down the drain. Music now is a listen for a couple weeks and on to the next flash in the pan.

What, you think this is something new? People have been saying this kind of thing at least since Elvis and probably ever since radio came into the home. I doubt the proportion of people who are serious about music (whatever serious means) has changed much since music became widely available over mass media.
 
Exactly. Its seems a lot of people here assume that back in the 70s and 80s, everyone with a turntable was an audiophile. How many people even knew how to swap a stylus or clean a record?
At the end of the day if a crappy crosley gets someone into vinyl, great. And if it puts them off it, well that's also fine. And if they ruin a heap of records (because no one's ever ruined a record with a proper turntable have they?) that's fine too as long as they're not my records.

Exactly!! The main reason I sold most of my vinyl when CD's came out was because they sounded like crap from being played on the cheap turntables I had as a kid.

I find this whole thing analogous to playing guitar:
Most people start on a super cheap guitar from a department store, or even a toy.
If the interest is there and as they improve they move on to better guitars. ( I doubt Jimmy Page's first guitar was a Les Paul).

My first guitar was a plastic toy from Sears, I progressed until I eventually got a Strat.
My first turntable was so cheap it made a Crosley look good, now I have a customized SL1200.

My point is that very, very few people start with audiophile grade equipment, but in order to start, you have to start somewhere.
 
My point is that very, very few people start with audiophile grade equipment, but in order to start, you have to start somewhere.

Indeed. You know, when I started buying records as a teenager in the 1960s I hardly had the funds for audiophile gear and the funds I did have from my after school job went for Italian shoes, Italian knit shirts, sharkskin trousers and chicks. You know, important stuff.
 
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Exactly. Its seems a lot of people here assume that back in the 70s and 80s, everyone with a turntable was an audiophile. How many people even knew how to swap a stylus or clean a record?
At the end of the day if a crappy crosley gets someone into vinyl, great. And if it puts them off it, well that's also fine. And if they ruin a heap of records (because no one's ever ruined a record with a proper turntable have they?) that's fine too as long as they're not my records.

Exactly agreed 100%.

What, you think this is something new? People have been saying this kind of thing at least since Elvis and probably ever since radio came into the home. I doubt the proportion of people who are serious about music (whatever serious means) has changed much since music became widely available over mass media.

By serious I mean into records more than just because it's popular. Nothing else.
 
The only thing Crosley is good for is old people who want to play their Engelbert Humperdink albums that have been stored in the garage for 50 years.

People buying one of these things don't have much of a clue and most likely never upgrade.
 
I think a lot of people forget how awful those cheap all-in-one systems in the 80s were...and how many of us kids loved them to death and played our records on them year after year. What is Crosley today was Sanyo or Goldstar in the 80s. It's not like it's a new phenomenon.

Who cares as long as people are enjoying the music?

It is a new phenomenon...

Back in the 80's you could go to lots of stores and buy albums because they were the standard format for music at the time.
 
The only thing Crosley is good for is old people who want to play their Engelbert Humperdink albums that have been stored in the garage for 50 years.

People buying one of these things don't have much of a clue and most likely never upgrade.

This is simply not true. I started on a Crosley. While it might not be cool, I'm not ashamed of it. I needed something cheap to see if this was something I was really interested in or if it was just a passing fancy. It's like buying someone a point-and-shoot to see if they're interested in photography. No, it's not an SLR, but it's a toe in the water and they can get into more serious (and more expensive) stuff if the interest persists.

It is a new phenomenon...

Back in the 80's you could go to lots of stores and buy albums because they were the standard format for music at the time.

The great thing about the vinyl boom is that you can do this now, too. They've got records in Barnes & Noble (my grandma bought me a record from there for Christmas because she knows how much I love records. I didn't have the heart to tell her I've already got the White Album. it's the thought that counts). They sell them at Urban Outfitters, at Half Price Books, and even at some Targets.

They might not be the standard, but they can be what stores call "selective sales," (at least that's what BP called it when I worked at one of their gas stations). Where I worked, they were things like promotion-only candy bars and gum. It's basically something a person didn't walk into your store meaning to buy, but once they see it they decide to anyway.

So, vinyl music's role has changed, but many people buy it for the same reasons, I suspect. Is vinyl as big now as it was in the 80s? Nope. But it's growing and people are interested in it again. It may not be the dominant medium, but it's getting people interested in their music and in the related ephemera (artwork, mechanics, etc). I'm glad, because for a long time when I didn't have a turntable or records, I wanted one. I had fond memories of them. Now, they're back and I can share that affection with others, including my 9-month old niece when she's old enough (though I bought her a Fisher-Price turntable music box for Christmas this year and she giggled and laughed at it for most of the day). The more things change, the more they stay the same. The only thing that's really new in the vinyl resurgence is that now people have a choice in mediums and they're choosing vinyl anyway. That's pretty cool.
 
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