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Is Vintage Audio about Poverty or Appreciation?

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Sorry, I disagree with you on both counts.

1. Your first statement is your opinion.

2. I am not crazy or otherwise not in my right mind because I don't agree with your bombastic statement.

3. I will say excellent quality exists within both camps but then again, I didn't think another VS. topic was the intention of the thread.

4. My wife sometimes says I'm crazy but my shrink just keeps asking me if I think I'm crazy. :D

Of course it is just my opinion. I don't represent AES here, I'm just a regular Joe.

Not trying to flame the vintage crowd. Its just my 2c.

BTW check my sig. ;)
 
I really don't care if Germans (or anyone anywhere else) think I'm poor because I like vintage gear, preferably made in USA gear. I think if you like another country or state more than where you're currently living then you should move there. Having served in the USMC and living in various parts of the world and meeting interesting people, realized that I prefer the USA to nowhere else.

My preferred music format is live, with vinyl being my second favorite, then iPod.

My mortgage is paid in full, no credit card debt, a fully-funded 401k and pension, paid for kids college with a 529 College Bound fund and paid for my college degree with the GI Bill. Own 3 cars, newest is a 2010 model, the 1998 and 1986 both run great and are maintained by me and I know how to work on them and have the tools. That does not make me poor. I do need everybody else to keep working and funding my retirement, so I can listen to my vintage vinyl on my vintage gear, smiling.
 
I have new and vintage equipment. What sounds better? Well..........

The vintage I chose sounds better than most of the modern equipment I have heard.

The modern equipment I chose sounds better than most of the vintage I've heard.

Moral: Good equipment sounds good. Bad equipment sounds bad. Choose what sounds good to you.
 
Still is!


Yes but dedicated audio stores are considered rare boutiques now.
Nowhere near the number of stores in the 1960s - mid 80s.

I wish more hi-fi stores existed, every-time I visit
a new city, I usually check to see if they have one/two
for a side-visit.

About as rare as drive-in theaters in some parts of this country.
 
I would say vintage gear, for me anyway, is about sound and quality. Like one poster already said, the gear from years ago was built with quality in mind. made to last.


Then you need to see more good quality modern gear, if that is your view.

I think that Edriz's point was that all units from cheap to expensive was built with quality in mind.
Today we have low quality for the masses in big box stores and high quality modern gear for the connoisseur.
That's why some of us are looking for the vintage gear so "the poor guy can finally get rich"
 
I think that Edriz's point was that all units from cheap to expensive was built with quality in mind.
Today we have low quality for the masses in big box stores and high quality modern gear for the connoisseur.
That's why some of us are looking for the vintage gear so "the poor guy can finally get rich"

Nothing could be further from the truth. The cheap crap was just as cheap and crappy as anything made today. Likely worse. All the Lloyd's and Candle stuff has long since hit the trash pile. And there was much more of that then SX-1980 and AU-717's.
 
Cheap back then

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Cheap today

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Expensive back then

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Expensive today

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Now, do you see what I mean today's gear looks like Sci-Fi compared to gear back then?

Just like when you compare first Star Trek and new Star Trek. Time marches on, progress... and all that...
 
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I have to agree with Bigerik. I also see some accolades on this site (mostly posted as second hand information) for equipment (was well thought of) that was considered second rate by HiFi enthusiasts of bygone days.
 
ROFL re Pandovski's SciFi comment.

Certain styles of recent model motor vehicles give me that feeling. The designers look at way too many comic books, IMHO.
 
Nothing could be further from the truth. The cheap crap was just as cheap and crappy as anything made today. Likely worse. All the Lloyd's and Candle stuff has long since hit the trash pile. And there was much more of that then SX-1980 and AU-717's.

Are you comparing LLoyds and Candle with todays Best Buy ie Mainstream equipment or is there an equvilent to LLoyds today ? I don't think Edriz was even thinking LLoyds when he made his statement .
 
Are you comparing LLoyds and Candle with todays Best Buy ie Mainstream equipment or is there an equvilent to LLoyds today ? I don't think Edriz was even thinking LLoyds when he made his statement .

He made the comment. I disagreed with him.
 
Of course it is just my opinion. I don't represent AES here, I'm just a regular Joe.

Ahem...
I am a real Joe.
Regular Joe is a trademark of Joe Inc.
For payment of trademark infringement I will require one mint lp record.

Suggestions include:

James Brown @ the Apollo
John Coltrane- Blue Train
Can -Ege Bamyazi or Future Days
Jade Warrior - Floating world
Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
The Band - Any of em

Your choice! :D
 
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