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Is your Lenco 'project' just sitting idle?

Arkay

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Shortcut for the impatient ones: Answer the big bold question in the 3rd paragraph.

More for the readers among you:

{No pun on "idler wheel" intended in the title. :no:}

I started a thread here about "What ONE thing would you like to "score" this year?", and within an hour or two there were already two people who mentioned that they had picked up Lenco TTs intending to transplant them into massive DIY plinths... but had never gotten around to it.

It occurs to me that I've read this from other owners before, too, both here on AK and elsewhere. I'm wondering how many people have picked up these old Lencos intending to fix them up, and then never gotten around to doing anything with them? What percentage of Lenco projects are on "long-term procrastination" status?

HOW ABOUT YOU? HOW MANY LENCOS DO YOU HAVE WAITING AROUND TO BE "REBUILT," AND HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN WAITING? HAVE YOU FINISHED ANY LENCO PROJECTS, AND IF SO, HOW MANY? HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO GET AROUND TO DOING THEM?




To be fair, I'll start off by sharing my own status with Lenco projects. It's neither an abysmal failure nor a resounding success, as I have done some stuff, but I still have unfinished and delayed stuff yet waiting to be done, some of which is long-delayed. (Just skip this stuff if you're not interested. :D)

Altogether, I have five L75s, two L70s, a B52 and an L85. Out of these, only ONE L75 has had a massive new plinth made for it, and that was done in a flurry of interest not long after I first got it. It's not the ultimate "reference" level Lenco project that I plan to make, either: it's more of a "proof of concept" roughly-finished laminated plywood job, done just to get an idea what the big-plinth Lenco sounds like. I can still turn it into something cosmetically nice and do some further tweaks to it, but haven't done so in the two or three years since I made it.

One of the L75s is staying in an original Lenco plinth, because I found a plinth that has unusually beautiful woodgrain. I refurbed it and "filled it in" plus an extra layer on the bottom, to make a plinth that looks like the original on a base, but functions a bit more like the big CLD plinths (but not really big, in this case). This was completed surprisingly quickly and just recently. Finding that nice-looking plinth somehow inspired me to "dig into it" and get it done.

I'm still trying to decide which L75 should permanently inhabit it: the one that came in it is still in good shape, but I have another that is NEVER-used, which came in the original packaging (sans outer cardboard box) looking pristine. I plan to make a "reference uber-Lenco" with PTP top plate and other mods, so I may use the never-used one in the original Lenco plinth to keep it intact, and the next-best one (the used one that came in the nice plinth) for the big project... but it would also be nice to use the never-used, "new" Lenco motor and parts in the "ultimate" project.

All my Lencos got a basic cleaning and minor tweaking when I got them, but that is different from a complete restoration. One B70 will stay in the plinth it is in, because it is a very cool old plinth, sort of like the boxy Empire ones. It has been cleaned and is functional, but is not really properly restored yet, to the standard I want it to be. I want to get another headshell for it, too, and the cart(s) I have for it need new styli.

The L85 got enough work to become usable, but could use a better restoration.

Most of my Lencos lack the original rubber mats; I need to source some more of those. Only some have the nice metal idler-wheels; a couple of plastic wheels should be replaced, or at least rebuilt.

One of the L75s has some rust on the spindle and is generally so-so; it may become a donor for a double platter for the BIG one, but that still leaves me with two L75s and one L70 awaiting their "projects", and some pending restoration work still on a couple others, as mentioned.

Meanwhile, I want to do a much fancier (more work involved) plinth for my Garrard 4HF (H) turntable, which I may do first, so the pending Lenco projects may just pend a little longer!

UPDATE: A couple months later, and now I have two more Lencos (both L75s) in the projects pile. One of them is in typical decent-but-needs-cleaning shape, the other is in nice, clean (almost unused-looking) shape, except someone broke off the tonearm (how do you manage to completely snap off a tonearm, leaving the broken-off stub of the base still in the top plate, and not bend/affect the top plate? Someone must have hit that arm a pretty hard blow, or perhaps dropped it on its side and the arm struck something hard? :dunno:). The Dustcover on it was fine when I first saw it, but cracked when I went back to get it, because they stacked too much heavy stuff on top of it :tears:. Both plinths look old, but I wouldn't keep them, anyway. The Garrard 4HF project is still on hold, while I do other things (like work and life...).
 
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Isn't the plinth the top plate of the chassis? I hear this word used interchangeably with "base" all the time, and I'm not sure it's correct.
 
I love building the plinths. But I'm not rich, and the arms that interest me are not exactly for the poor.
So, I've got one plinth project that is idle because of that.
Its a soapstone plinth that I'm stuck on. I've got the deck fitted onto it, and the stone is ready to apply a finish on, but I don't have an arm for it. So for now, it sits tucked below my mono console, all forlorn.
But over the last two years or so, I've replinthed four Presto-Bogen-Lencos, with one more to do (then onto the Pioneer idler).

Adding in edit:
Make that five P-B-L's replinthed in the last ~2 years, as I did one for a friend last month that slipped my mind. I did a minimization-to-massiveness build, by minimizing the open space within a stock plinth, by adding 1x2 wood slats and soapstone as a CLD layering within the stocker plinth - a sleeper hot-rodded build.
 
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Isn't the plinth the top plate of the chassis? I hear this word used interchangeably with "base" all the time, and I'm not sure it's correct.

A plinth is a base, typically of stone or concrete, and usually supporting such things as sculpture; usually fairly massive in proportion.
To the turntablists, a plinth is what the top plate sits on.
 
I have 2 Lencos, and I've built plinths for both of them. I did need to wait 6 months in each case, though, because I need to work outside to build the plinths, and I like to keep my fingers frost-bite free.

I really like DIY projects though, so maybe I'm strange that way....
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My Lenco project is sitting idle because I haven't come across one yet.:D

I do have a Dual 1225 that I might build a plinth for. Not because it is a great table or anything, but I've got cabinet making skills and thought it might be a cool project. Sort of a starter plinth project to get me started. I could then take the 1225's base and use it for a base-less 1216 I have kicking around and then move it along. I also just picked up a Dual/PE 3048. It is similar to a Dual 1218/1228, or so I've read. It might be a candidate for a plinth. I don't have the time at the moment, so the projects will have to wait. I guess I should have posted in the 2011 score thread that I need to "score" some more free time!
 
I started a thread here about "What ONE thing would you like to "score" this year?", and within an hour or two there were already two people who mentioned that they had picked up Lenco TTs intending to transplant them into massive DIY plinths... but had never gotten around to it.
I'm one of those guys.
I've bought a plinthless B55 (20€) and an L78 with broken arm (20€) in december 2010, with the plan in mind to 'do' them in a slow pace during 2011.

The L78 hasn't even arrived so is not exactly idling. ;)

I have some wild plans for it, but will post when the builds actually in progress.
The B55 will serve as practice unit for the L78 build.
 
I first leaned what a plinth was by setting a sculpture onto one, that had to be in a Koi pond, with the sculpture on it looking as if it were standing on water.
It was in an upper portion of the pond, the filter return pond, that then cascaded down along side of, parallel to a stone staircase.
The plinth in this case was probably 500 lbs of concrete block that we kept having to lift and shim to get the sculpture right. It had a stainless steel mounting plate on its top that we had to get perfecty level to, and just barely below the surface - it was cold, wet, miserable day, and I'll never forget the word plinth.
 
I have done two L75s, one for my stepson and one for myself. I still have one L75 sitting around with a Peters top plate waiting for some inspiration. I also have a NOS Thorens TD 124MKI waiting for the same inspiration to hit. Since I finished my Lenco with Peters top plate, I haven't had the desire or felt that I can improve the sound, the looks - yes. Maybe this year I will make that one of my priorities for one of my wood projects.
Not enough hours in a day.

Kim
 
I have an L78, L75 and a Bogen B52 (same as Lenco B52 if I'm not mistaken). I'm using the stock L78 as my main table, despite the usual issues with v-blocks and saggy tonearm stub, as well as it being still spring mounted. All have been in my hands for less than a year.

However, I have the 'desmo" v-blocks in the mail, so when they arrive I anticipate a flurry of activity to replace the blocks, sort the stub, sort the anti-skate weight, clean the bearing and a general fettling, as well as removing the springs and hard mounting the plate to the plinth. This is for the L78.

From there, time permitting (not likely in the next year) I'll plot out and build a new plinth, and install the MAS-282 tonearm I have.

The B52 is in one of those "record player" boxes, with an amp and speaker. The tonearm is broken (stub broke off due to stupidity). I simply haven't any idea of what I'm going to do with it, though the speaker should be a decent project. Too bad the amp is SS.
 
If I'm mulling over what plinth material or topplate design to use, I'll put a Lenco up on stilts (dowels), hook up a tonearm by hook or crook and get it running and singing somewhere in the rotation. My house has four turntable slots in three systems.
Still - some will be idle some of the time -
But I try not to fret about it.
 
I have an L75 which I want to build a plinth for.......have to say I don't really have much confidence in myself for this project.
 
For those with questions about how to build a plinth, where to get the Peter's Top Plate, etc... all the answers can be found at LencoHeaven:
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php

If you own a Lenco, it is more than worth the time to look through all the information there, before beginning to upgrade your TT.

There used to be more in-depth discussions at "DaThread" and then at LencoLovers, but alas, they have disappeared into cyber-oblivion. What remains is at the link above, now, and in bits and pieces elsewhere on the web. Still a lot of very good, useful information!
 
Guess I'm gonna have to sign up there too. :)
Can't see pricing on the top plate before that. :S
 
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I had my L78 up and running with in a couple of weeks after I bought it. I think it´s rather simple to construct a massive plinth from MDF.

Right now I´m spinning Atomic Roster début album and it rocks big time.
 
I have a Bogen B-52 as well. It's painted Army Green and I saw somewhere on Ebay where one like mine was being sold as an Army Signal Corps turntable. However, the B-52 is not a heavy platter table. I thought that only the heavy platter Lenco's (and Bogens) were the ones that were capable of being turned into audiophile quality tables. Although I also understand that the motors on these tables are all similar. So can I add a heavy platter to my B-52 to reach the L75 level of quality? This puzzles me greatly as my thought was that the heavy platter was determinative of whether such a table could be made to reach the level of quality that experts like JEAN NANTAIS are capable of turning into an audiophile quality table. [


QUOTE=Old_School;4296249]I have an L78, L75 and a Bogen B52 (same as Lenco B52 if I'm not mistaken). I'm using the stock L78 as my main table, despite the usual issues with v-blocks and saggy tonearm stub, as well as it being still spring mounted. All have been in my hands for less than a year.

However, I have the 'desmo" v-blocks in the mail, so when they arrive I anticipate a flurry of activity to replace the blocks, sort the stub, sort the anti-skate weight, clean the bearing and a general fettling, as well as removing the springs and hard mounting the plate to the plinth. This is for the L78.

From there, time permitting (not likely in the next year) I'll plot out and build a new plinth, and install the MAS-282 tonearm I have.

The B52 is in one of those "record player" boxes, with an amp and speaker. The tonearm is broken (stub broke off due to stupidity). I simply haven't any idea of what I'm going to do with it, though the speaker should be a decent project. Too bad the amp is SS.[/QUOTE]
 
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