I love my 4408s! Using them with old h/k A-402. Very detailed
Don't be looking for a "crankin' the jams" kind of speaker, though -- these are best at lower/moderate volume, near field, as they were designed. I use them in a ~10X10 room.
BMWCCA, I'd like to hear some of the models that you mention, if you think they sound better. I've always wanted to check out the big 4412s!