Manufacturers commenting on AK (?)
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Doesn't change anything one bit,All Audio/No Attitude is great and all that but this is personal and I for one bit don't see or care how they see this site or myself for that matter.They have a right just as we all have a right! There's enough crap in the World to really worry about without any of this nonsense about a Hobby or whatever you may call it Addiction maybe,that we all enjoy or at least should enjoy,without more nonsense like this
I get the impression that a lot of the time these 'manufacturers' can't understand the attraction of vintage, and feel that vintage lovers could be a potential untapped market, (for their new gear). If only there wasn't so much high regard for vintage gear, and so much of it, I guess that means 'sour grapes'.
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similost
Rockin and Rollin....
Us.. the general public... Just because we hang out on AK does not make us a special group...
Being here is no different than a group of people that would go see a concert... The general public...
Meh, the older I get the less I care about what others think.
FWIW, it seems that since we have a large contingent here of folks that like vintage and aren't interested in what they are selling they shouldn't care as many here aren't the customers they seek.
Perhaps THEY should stop passing judgement and painting with the broad brush???
What manufacturers?
Given the nature of (any) business, the only God they have is $, so somehow we threaten that.
Given the nature of (any) business, the only God they have is $, so somehow we threaten that.
similost
Rockin and Rollin....
McIntosh sure knows we exist.. Along with Bob Carver... and many others..
AK has always kind of been tilted more towards members being more DIY and tinkerers than people who look to walk int the store and buy a complete new system... By nature, DIY people are going to buy what they can find.. old.. vintage...
We have people here that don't like to tinker, and who go buy new gear, but they are the minority.... Lots of them here, but just less of them than the DIY people..
Nothing wrong with either party, but may times it does get heated because for some reason the people who DIY can't get along with those that like to buy new, and vice versa...
Some day, eventually, maybe i will become more about the music than the gear, but I doubt it... We seldom get into arguments over who the best band is, but man.. we sure can debate the best metal to make wire from...
As AK represents a fairly large cross section of potential customers, I would think it far more important what we think of them than what they think of us.
It's not like they're sending any money our way.
As to the few members who were obstinate about vintage and asked to leave, they are entitled to their opinions, but certainly should respect the vendors in their rooms. They paid to showcase their wares to interested parties, and not to engage in debate with naysayers. It's common courtesy, which like common sense, isn't so common anymore...
But to judge an entire group by the actions of a few really never has been right, or should it be, but it unfortunately happens all the time.
bhunter
The Spherical Cow
Good point!
I'd like to know the names of the companies denigrating their potential customers so I can be sure not to invest in said companies and to know which products to avoid. OTOH, the juvenile meanderings of some market research hacks will not cause a loss of sleep given a competitive market.
similost
Rockin and Rollin....
AK fest was open to the general public.. not just AK members, BUT, AK members are also part of the general public..
Lots of people make asses of their selves in public.. If a manufacturer is holding a person's actions the responsibility of AK which has no responsibility for a public member's atitude, then the manufacturer is the one with the problem..
Yes, AK gave the manufacturer a venue to show their wares in, but AK can not be held responsible for what happens as far as public stupidity.
It's no different than when a town holds a concert at a town party. People get drunk and stupid and fight at the show.. The vendors or band at the show don't hold the city responsible for having idiots there...
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Unfortunately, or not the fiscal health of this site requires sponsors. The bad mouthing of new and high end manufacturers and their equipment prices etc. does affect the attraction of manufacturers wanting to be sponsors. This site should be friendly to all audio fans, just not the DIY, or Vintage fans.
Why would any manufacturer send money our way when they are the brunt of criticism and ridicule by the vintage crowd? Speaking of sending money our way, how many posters in this thread are subscribers to AK? (Those who are thank you for your support of the site.)
I have a main rig of more modern gear, and a vintage rig I enjoy as well. I enjoy them both. Sometimes the AK family needs to come before your personal mantra. IMHO
Regards,
Jim
Why would any manufacturer send money our way when they are the brunt of criticism and ridicule by the vintage crowd? Speaking of sending money our way, how many posters in this thread are subscribers to AK? (Those who are thank you for your support of the site.)
I have a main rig of more modern gear, and a vintage rig I enjoy as well. I enjoy them both. Sometimes the AK family needs to come before your personal mantra. IMHO
Regards,
Jim
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