Marantz 2245 Value
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HH-Bham
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To my eye, roughly $4-500 on the ebay, maybe less on a bad day. Local sale less -- don't know Philly market.
To my eye, roughly $4-500 on the ebay, maybe less on a bad day. Local sale less -- don't know Philly market.
Marantz 22xx in good condition go for 10x the watts, so $400-$450. Case can add $100 if nice, or can go for $150+ on its own.
Sounds pretty good!
Well done!
You mean this one with the SCAM / VIRUS warning post about it?
Same guy had a pair of extremely clean AR3a speakers in their original boxes for a ridiculously low price too. No way I believed either one of those deals. A virus I believe, call me a skeptic.
Same guy had a pair of extremely clean AR3a speakers in their original boxes for a ridiculously low price too. No way I believed either one of those deals. A virus I believe, call me a skeptic.
Flounder
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Believe it. I was at his house yesterday. The seller was a super nice, older gentleman who clearly should be getting help divesting his estate, which is what he's doing. However, I did not pay $50 for the 2245. The story is this. I happened to respond to his ad minutes after it was posted (I got super lucky - I just happened to look at that time), but don't know if he picked me b/c I was first. He didn't say. After he posted it, he had to travel for a family emergency which prevented him from getting back to all the inquiries. He said that in the time since he posted the "announcement," he had been getting many offers way higher than asking price. He communicated that by shot-gunning a message in a Word document to all the people who emailed him through CL. I offered him $300 thinking that he'd counter (and I'm looking at a Pioneer SX-828 for $285 so figured that was ballpark), but we we settled on that and arranged a time to meet. After meeting the guy, I did not feel comfortable taking that receiver for less than that. It's one thing to find a great deal at a garage sale - another to take advantage of an older person. I wasn't super anxious to score it so I thought if he bites, I'll grab it. If not, I have enough sh*t that needs to be restored, and he was only 10 minutes from where I work. No skin off my back if it didn't work out.
It is very clean, but it's going to need some work. The left channel is a little stronger than the right, and a unit that old will need to be recapped anyway so I figured all that into my offer too. It also needs some new bulbs/LEDs. The wood case is in great shape. There was one tiny dent on the top bevel, but that was it. The 2245 did come with all the original packing, the service and user manuals, and he even gave me his receipts and warranty registration card. It was all filed in a plastic sleeve in the condition it was when he bought everything in 1975.
Those AR3a's are real too - I tested the 2245 through them, and they are super clean. He did have all the original paperwork and boxes for everything. He had a committed buyer for them, but said he'd call me if it fell through. He didn't say what he was offered. I have a feeling someone scored (stole) them for his asking price of $300.
As for the virus/scam thing, I don't know about that. I'm a Linux user so I don't have that problem
, and after meeting the guy, I doubt that he'd be that diabolical. He was a super nice guy . . .think your grandfather who had a love for music.
It is very clean, but it's going to need some work. The left channel is a little stronger than the right, and a unit that old will need to be recapped anyway so I figured all that into my offer too. It also needs some new bulbs/LEDs. The wood case is in great shape. There was one tiny dent on the top bevel, but that was it. The 2245 did come with all the original packing, the service and user manuals, and he even gave me his receipts and warranty registration card. It was all filed in a plastic sleeve in the condition it was when he bought everything in 1975.
Those AR3a's are real too - I tested the 2245 through them, and they are super clean. He did have all the original paperwork and boxes for everything. He had a committed buyer for them, but said he'd call me if it fell through. He didn't say what he was offered. I have a feeling someone scored (stole) them for his asking price of $300.
As for the virus/scam thing, I don't know about that. I'm a Linux user so I don't have that problem
, and after meeting the guy, I doubt that he'd be that diabolical. He was a super nice guy . . .think your grandfather who had a love for music.
willyrover
Super Member
$300 seems fair for all parties. Well done!
Great deal, glad you got it and helped him out with a good price! The 2245 is my favorite of the Marantz 22xx series and a real keeper IMO. Dunno what's up with the scam alert post, maybe the original listing got hijacked or something?
This is a bit debated here, and I'm on your side.
I've bought some very nice pieces from CL, sometimes underpriced and sometimes overpriced. If I see something that's particularly nice (original owner selling with box and manuals like this one for example) and I know I want it, I'll send my first response to the ad with an offer. This has landed a few exceptional pieces in my collection. An example is the MC240 in my avatar, the ad was for $1,000, one photo without tubes, some quick research identified the seller as a widow in her 70s and to the best of my ability to see the amp in the photos it had excellent chrome. I immediately sent her an email telling her that I'm interested, that she's under-pricing it, and my offer (over asking of course) telling her I have cash-on-hand and will leave immediately or at her convenience to pick it up. When I picked it up the next day she had her daughter there helping her deal with all of the response to her ad, was very happy to see me. I dressed well, parked where she could see me get out of the car, all added to her comfort level and she invited me in where I bought the rest of her late husband's system (not yet advertised). It was three hours' driving on the faith that the amp was as nice as advertised (it is).
Not everyone agrees with this method, but lets face the facts: Online ads for this stuff is a bidding war, even if a price is stated in the ad. Some of the bidders are flippers trying to get there first and then point out defects to drive the price back down, and a couple are like us who are fine with paying a fair price for an exceptional or hard-to-find piece. This is the reality of on-line ads in vintage audio.
If you had stuck with the original $50 you might have bought it, maybe not. However the important part (IMO) is that you were able to find a very nice piece and you're happy with the price.
It is my opinion that offering enough money for a nice piece to drive out the profit potential for flippers is the way to buy those special pieces, or in some cases where we're somewhat remote anything at all. Looking back and wondering whether I could have bought it cheaper never happens, but looking at the gear and wondering if I would have missed it had I not offered market makes me smile and enjoy the music. It is all about the music.
TomBig58
Super Member
Great stories. Here's mine copied from a post in Recent Purchases just this week. Similar. Pieces in question are:
Yamaha R-9 receiver
Mitsubishi LT-22 turntable with Shure V15/4
Yamaha K-640 cassette deck
Sony disc player
Interesting story. An older woman selling her husband's gear from years ago she just wanted it out of the closet. She was way underpriced on her listing for the receiver and TT so of course I jumped on it and contacted her right away. She messaged back that she did some research and changed her price. I sent back that it was a smart move but jokingly added "you are supposed to do your research BEFORE you list".
Unfortunately she went crazy high ebay wish list pricing on her edited ad so I messaged her again on what pricing I thought she should list and settle for regarding the receiver and TT. I even told her how much that Shure cartridge was worth. Even at my pricing adjustments it was too rich for my blood I told her good luck with the sale but I might still be in for the TT.
Not long after she messaged me back appreciating my "honesty and passion" and said she wanted them to go to someone who appreciated them as much as her husband, even if it's just to resell. She made an offer to ME which was closer to her lower number than high also throwing in the other two pieces. I really don't need to add gear but it was truly an offer I couldn't refuse. The TT will become my daily listener for awhile.
Full disclosure: Her original listing was $140 for the receiver and TT
She upped it to $390 for both
Then she offered the four pieces to me for $230 so I jumped
She probably got some angry messages from others when she changed her price but it was my honesty with her that eventually won the day. She had all the gear bubble wrap packaged when I arrived. We both walked away happy.
Yamaha R-9 receiver
Mitsubishi LT-22 turntable with Shure V15/4
Yamaha K-640 cassette deck
Sony disc player
Interesting story. An older woman selling her husband's gear from years ago she just wanted it out of the closet. She was way underpriced on her listing for the receiver and TT so of course I jumped on it and contacted her right away. She messaged back that she did some research and changed her price. I sent back that it was a smart move but jokingly added "you are supposed to do your research BEFORE you list".
Unfortunately she went crazy high ebay wish list pricing on her edited ad so I messaged her again on what pricing I thought she should list and settle for regarding the receiver and TT. I even told her how much that Shure cartridge was worth. Even at my pricing adjustments it was too rich for my blood I told her good luck with the sale but I might still be in for the TT.
Not long after she messaged me back appreciating my "honesty and passion" and said she wanted them to go to someone who appreciated them as much as her husband, even if it's just to resell. She made an offer to ME which was closer to her lower number than high also throwing in the other two pieces. I really don't need to add gear but it was truly an offer I couldn't refuse. The TT will become my daily listener for awhile.
Full disclosure: Her original listing was $140 for the receiver and TT
She upped it to $390 for both
Then she offered the four pieces to me for $230 so I jumped
She probably got some angry messages from others when she changed her price but it was my honesty with her that eventually won the day. She had all the gear bubble wrap packaged when I arrived. We both walked away happy.
Your purchase price of $300w/cabinet was a great catch, (those cabinets alone are now going for $150 or better). About 4 or 5 years ago, I just happened to stop into an estate or moving sale. It wasn't being handled by one of the usual dealers, but by the residents themselves. A nice couple, a couple of old hippies (think Lily Tomlin from "Grace & Frankie" only with more grey hair). The house & furnishings were right out of a time warp to 1970, complete with the smell of pot & incense LOL. Sitting on a shelf was a dusty but pristine 2245 w/cabinet. I asked them if it worked, he said he bought it new in the 70's and has never had an issue with it.
He wanted $350 for it. I grabbed it, gave all the controls a good bath of DeOxit and gave it to my son. He uses it daily as the source for all his audio listening needs.
About a year and a half ago, my son in law passed on a deal of the century 2270 (something he totally regrets now). I told him to start watching for 2245's as well. He ended up buying a very nice 2245w/cabinet off of eBay for $425. You should feel quite confident in your purchase.
