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Marantz Led light replacement project.

They're white LED's. Actually, they're more of a parchment color, but emit a bright white light.

Here's another recent comparison pic I took of two 2325's. LED and stock.

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I have several Marantz pieces, and I want to attempt to do the LED conversion. But instead of buying the drop in fuse style leds off Epay I'd like to try to do it my self.

My question is this: Which LED's to get. There are so many. I know that they need to 8v and 6.3v (pin) But there are so many choices. Can some offer some insight? Thanx

Get the original style fuse lamps and install them. Save yourself the trouble, and preserve the unit's value.

GJ
 
Get the original style fuse lamps and install them. Save yourself the trouble, and preserve the unit's value.

GJ

That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Replacing with LED fuse lamps requires no more effort than replacing with fuse lamps if you go with the ones pre-made that are readily available right now. And how you think that heat build up and the potential for warped internal plastic surrounding the stock lamps is going to "preserve the unit's value" is simply mystifying. It makes no sense, whatsoever, particularly since gents like yourself can always put the hot, outdated, inefficient bulbs back in at any time.
 
They're white LED's. Actually, they're more of a parchment color, but emit a bright white light.

Here's another recent comparison pic I took of two 2325's. LED and stock.

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Humor me here, I don't own any of these as my one Marantz Reciever is the later dial (2252b). The blue color, does it come from blue sleaves over the bulbs or blue plastic on the dial. In either case where does the blue/green tint come from? If its yellowed velum then why would putting in white LEDs make it more blue? If its because incandecent bulbs emit a yellowish light naturally then wouldn't the color have been blue/green even when they were new?

I do like the blue vs the blue/green but do the leds "restore" the color or just "change" the color.

Steve
 
Well I dont see what all the fuss is about. I kinda like both but tend towards the LED conversion.
I've got my price and now am doing a bit of thinking about where to turn with regards to my 2275.
I'm sure I will eventually. And like Boss says. If I dont like em or want to eventually sell the unit then I can always pull em and put the old bulbs back in.
Just my 2 cents
 
Humor me here, I don't own any of these as my one Marantz Reciever is the later dial (2252b). The blue color, does it come from blue sleaves over the bulbs or blue plastic on the dial. In either case where does the blue/green tint come from? If its yellowed velum then why would putting in white LEDs make it more blue? If its because incandecent bulbs emit a yellowish light naturally then wouldn't the color have been blue/green even when they were new?

I do like the blue vs the blue/green but do the leds "restore" the color or just "change" the color.

Steve

The blue comes from the dial scale and meter plastic itself. No sleeves over the bulbs or anything like that. When these receivers were manufactured, white vellum paper was placed behind the plastic of the dial and sometimes the meters, to diffuse the light emitted from the bulbs. Over time, the heat generated from the stock bulbs bake the vellum and it begins to turn brown. This is what causes the display, over time, to fade into that turqoise or greenish color. On some of the receivers, 2325's in particular, apparently, there is also a good chance that the heat of of the stock fuse lamps can warp and even melt the plastic housing that surrounds the bulb holders. Some of these cases can be attributed perhaps to the wrong spec fuse lamps being substituted.

Sure, you can replace the vellum paper and start the cycle over again, with incandescent lamps, but you've done nothing to correct the problem.

The beauty of the LED conversion, is that you completely eliminate the need to replace the vellum, you eliminate the heat build up, preserving the internal plastic housing, and the intense white light they emit produce the beautiful, deep, rich blue color you see in my photos. Some people are sticklers for originality, and that's fine. But it's inefficient, outdated technology. As for why it appears blue, even through baked vellum? I can't really answer that. It may have something to do with the frequency of the light being emitted from the LED's, or perhaps their intensity simply overcomes the lightly browned vellum. Take a look at some vintage print ads for Marantz receivers. Their displays do not look green. It stands to reason that if Marantz had intended for the displays to be turqoise or green, then that's the color they would have chosen for the plastic that the light is shining through.

I assume these same folks would never dream of lighting their homes with high efficiency, energy saving, flourescent bulbs, or choosing a halogen or HID headlight conversion for their classic cars, opting to stick with original style sealed beam headlamps, for the same reasons.

While I would certainly agree that in some instances there is no substitute for good, halogen spotlights or floodlights to illuminate that Picasso painting on the wall in your home, this LED conversion noticably improves the quality of the display on these receivers -- with the attractive benefit of probably a lifetime of operation with no need to ever change them out again. For me, the benefits far outweigh any disadvantage. If anything, retaining the stock bulbs that can actually do irreparable damage your receiver should be the real concern. Oh, and by the way, I just sold the 2325 pictured on the bottom of that comparison photo, for $889. So claims of diminished value can be put to rest there, as well. The new owner requested a full LED conversion for the receiver, so it will look exactly like the 2325 on the top of that photo.

Now that I've beaten up on the purists, I can say that I do understand how the intensity of the LED's might seem a bit austere or cold to some. Bottom line: It's your receiver. Do what you want to do with it without any fear of damaging your "investment".

Hope that answers your question.
 
Hope that answers your question.

Yes I believe it does. You sound a bit on the defensive. You must be taking some "heat" over all this.

So one last question and i'll leave you alone. Where are you getting the "premade" LED subs? I'd like to see what they du to the look of the meters in my 300DC. Also, reduced heat in a power amp can't be anything but a good idea!

Steve
 
Not defensive, just passionate. Maybe a little feisty. Heh. I've been buying mine from Wsh4A or whatever his username is. Just to a search on eBay for "LED Marantz fuse lamps".

Like I said, I do understand the aversion that some may have to this conversion. I personally seem to favor the appearance of the stock white function lamps to the LED's, and have only performed the total mod on my 2325. My 2245 just has the dial and meter lamps in LED and I love it. When the first function light gives way, I'll complete the LED conversion then. I'm in no hurry to break out the soldering iron and desoldering braid...
 
If all my bulbs suddenly went out I would probably go the LED route, but I certainly wouldn't bother to do it on a functioning unit.
 
If *all* your bulbs suddenly went out, I'd think the type of lights you're running would be the least of your concerns. :D
:beerchug:
 
I've got a full complement of LED replacements on hand for my 2238 and 510M. They'll be sent along when the Marantz head out to the shop next week. I'll certainly post pics.
 
Yep I've gone ahead and ordered mine as I have decided to recap my 2275 so may as well change all the lamps while I've got it "out of service for maintenance". :thmbsp:
Still looking for a balance knob for the slider if anyone has a spare.:yes:
 
Balance knob

I have probably a dozen or more of these knobs(new) picked up from an oldtime radio repair shop. They are not marantz...but I dare you to tell the difference :D!

Drop me a note if you still need one...Kcin
 
LED fuse lamps

I converted my Marantz 2252B to the LED's and I love it! I could stare at it for hours. I have a couple of Marantz 2120 tuners and I converted one to LED and left the other original for comparison. The original looks nice: a very light blue color, but I prefer the deeper, darker blue of the LED bulbs.
 
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Digging up an old thread....

Just a thought,
Could one use a sheet of "Gel" to cover the Tuning section?
Gel Brands---Rosco, Lee, GAM, Apollo
(I'm in theatre biz, and I use gel color in front of high temp lights all day)
Also, they run about $7 for a sheet roughly 2 foot sq.
This might depend on access to the vellum area of the tuner section.

I also found an LED company that sells Pods (groups of 4 or 5 LED's)/and pre resistor'd LED's.
Not affiliated:
plasmaled.com:thmbsp:
 

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Sure, I suppose. But even if you use a gel to color the OEM fuselamps, you're not addressing the problems they have. Namely, overheating the plastic surrounding them in some models and the way they burn out over time.
 
Based on experience with the LED conversion, it yields a cold, intense blue that I find emotionally harsh. In addition, the LED's produce more of a point source luminance than the original fuse-type lamps. This yields a picket-fence effect, where zones of brightness alternate with zones that are slightly dimmer.

Fred Longworth

Have you tried Don's? They're not like that at all. If there's an unsatisfied customer of Don's out there I'd like to know.
 
Fred, you may not like it and that's your prerogative, but you have to stop spreading falsehoods about this picket fencing you talk about. It's simply not true. Frankly, it's a ridiculous assertion.

You're entitled to despise the LED display on the left and embrace the stock OEM lamps on the right.

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But I disagree. Wholeheartedly. :beerchug: After comparing the two, I couldn't stand looking at the stock display, with it's meters not matching the dial. And the dial being turqoise. So I did something about it.

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I couldn't agree more!! I never thought I would make the switch but after trying the leds I will never go back to the dull, green incandescents.
 
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