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McIntosh Turntable Poll

ron-c said:
Starfighter,

Did you see the table in person?

Thanks,
Ron-C
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Hi Ron,

YES, I had a chance to see it "live" in Milan, Italy a couple of weeks ago during the TAV (Top Audio & Video) exhibition in the MPI booth (Italian distributor).

The market is ready for an increase in sales around Vynil and I perfectly understand the launch of a TT from McIntosh at the right time. At the same time I confirm my comments in my previous post: it's just a personal opinion but an honest one.
Regards
Alessandro
 
I am no TT expert, so I wonder why do you need an analog meter to display a discrete value?
 
ron-c said:
Alessandro,

So what did you think of the meter function?

thanks,
Ron-C
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I thought: "Hey, I must call McIntosh Mkting guys and ask them to build something similar to measure the speed of my car and not only the one of my Vynils. Jesus: can You imagine to drive Your car and have speed and rpm under control with Blue-Eyes McIntosh style stuff?". Then my thoughts and dreams where distracted by a McIntosh amp chassis with a TT on top...:naughty:

I repeat what I wrote in my previous post: it's not a matter of Meter or Glass or green lights... it's a matter of TOO MUCH. The TT plate was just spinning but no record was playing so I can't say if the sound was good or not. But it's a McIntosh and I'm pretty sure the sound is GOOD: I respect this company for its skills and technical background in music reproduction to doubt about it.
But design is... good greef... how can I say it... more McIntosh than McIntosh... or... too McIntosh: for a Turntable I mean.
A comment about Design is VERY personal and so take this as a personal opinion and nothing more: but this is what I think. McIntosh can do much better than this in terms of Design still maintaining the look and feel of its brand: I'm sure in "release 2" we might see something different.
Then, of course, if Your target market says that this is what it wants: well, well done. It just means I'm not in this target: no problem at all. I have a C2200 and an MC2102: I love them and, for sure, I'll go on purchasing other McIntosh products... BUT turntables... for the moment...:thmbsp:
 
Alessandro,

That is my point. The feel and 'handling' of a turntable is very important since these require hands on operation. If you can not explain the meter function you have yet to take the TT10 for a test drive.

Thank you,
Ron-C
 
btw, Ron...

Do you happen to know if the TT will be on the brussels Hifi show this weekend, or is there no chance at all that it will be there? I'd love to see it though :)

Keep them spinning,
Bert.
 
Bert,

The only show we have displayed the TT10 prototype at was CEDIA. The one and only prototype has been in the mechanical engineering department since the show. We should see the finished version at CES/ Las Vegas in January where I will be spinning some records.

thanks,
Ron-C
 
:tears:

anyways, is there any chance that I'll be seeing other new products, like the 2300 or the 500?

Cheers,
Bert.
 
ron-c said:
Alessandro,

That is my point. The feel and 'handling' of a turntable is very important since these require hands on operation. If you can not explain the meter function you have yet to take the TT10 for a test drive.

Thank you,
Ron-C
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Ron,
what You say makes sense, and not only about TTs. But even if I'm sure it can sound very good... I still don't like it: I always talked about DESIGN, not Meters or sound. That's all. Just to give an idea of the design I like I can mention the Transcriptor Hydraulic Reference (after more than 35 years it's still gorgeous) or the Wilson Benesch Circle with its Carbon Act arm with its simple lines and circles that define a very well designed product (I own these two). There are many other examples related to Clearaudio, Transrotor, VPI, etc..
The Meter, the technology behind it, the "handling" could all be put into a much better design: just that.
When I saw the first pictures on the Web I started to have some doubt about its Design: when I saw it in Milan at the TAV exhibition it was even worse.
Then, I repeat it, if all the other McIntosh fans love it... good for them... and for You. Numbers win.
 
Other than a blue meter and odd-looking plinth ... is there something new and innovative by way engineering that this table brings to the marketplace? That seems to have been lost here. Will this knock the socks off a VPI TNT, Avid, SME, Sota Cosmos, Merrill or Linn LIP12 (fully loaded)?
 
Number 9 said:
Other than a blue meter and odd-looking plinth ... is there something new and innovative by way engineering that this table brings to the marketplace? That seems to have been lost here. Will this knock the socks off a VPI TNT, Avid, SME, Sota Cosmos, Merrill or Linn LIP12 (fully loaded)?
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Very good point and I don't think we will know that until this TT actually gets out there and starts circulating (pun intended). :D
 
Does all this mean there's more to the meter's function than is apparent? I was wondering if it could be switched to show wow & flutter, or cartridge loading, or some tricky thing. A switch on the front panel to cue the tonearm with more precision than my clumsy mits would be a very nice addition, and I really like the idea of an internal phono pre option.

No one asked me, of course. :D
 
I was sitting around last night listening to music and looking at my MC501's which I just finished cleaning/dusting and thought the new turntable would sure look exquisite if the front panel was made the same way the 501's are made with 1/2 inch thick glass, center 3D panel, thick left and right silver columns.
 
Indy said:
I was sitting around last night listening to music and looking at my MC501's which I just finished cleaning/dusting and thought the new turntable would sure look exquisite if the front panel was made the same way the 501's are made with 1/2 inch thick glass, center 3D panel, thick left and right silver columns.
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Take note, Ron C ....... :yes:

I am waiting too .... and this could end up coming with a C1000 for me ...... and break my original mission of an all Digital McIntosh system !:D
 
For Ron: Price Includes Arm?

[SIZE="4"]Dear Ron,

Where are you sourcing the arm from for although the build quality looks substantial, even from a photo, the arm exudes “budget” which should not be the case (even it is included), given the price (the entire package “should be around $8k when it ships…”) Is this the table-only price allowing the user to choose his own arm? In other words is the arm that is showing in the photo only to give an idea regarding the armboard, meaning is the arm a mock up?
 
Not sure if this was posted before or not, but I just came across this video interview with Chuck from McIntosh www.avguide.com/features/cedia07/videos/mcintosh.php

When you see the turntable in the video, it looks kind of cool! Also hearing Chuck describe the meter as a tachometer that tracks the turntable speed in real time -- I get it. I’ve often wished I had that kind of feedback on my turntable power supply.

Nice footage of the c2300 and c500 also
 
THX 4 the link ruffoc.

If McIntosh stays true to its approach to engineering and performance, I think we have here a turntable that will give a lot of much higher priced TT's a run for their money.
 
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