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Moral Dilemma-Killing a Coyote

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what if you go out there do wee wee and mark your own territory?? make sure you chew on a few vitamin tablets!!! :-))
 
Coyotes are nothing if not adaptable. We have urban packs that run the streets at night and fear humans not in the least. For the most part they are not agressive to humans so they do not get hunted and killed like the bobcats that also stray into town.
 
I say without hesitation Put it Down ASAP. We live near the swamp in Florida and have lost plenty of pets along with our neighbors pets. I believe in live and let live but my animals take priority over a disease infested wild animal.

-Mike

PS. We have real BLACK Texas panthers here near our acreage and I would never put one down unless it attacked my family.
 
dokblues said:
We have lots of them here in AZ and most of them respect people OK. But we have one Large Lobo ie:(loaner) who is not afraid of anything! I have pelted his rump more than once with the pellet pistol and he still persists. I am not worried for myself so much but there are a lot of ladies mine included who walk their dogs in the early morning before work. If this persists more Drastic measures will have to be taken. They can easily attack and mame or kill an adult or child if they are provoked Do Not take them lightly! Rabies is a Big concern as well. Lots of packs around my house at least 3 with 8-10in ea.
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IMHO...I consider myself very knowledgeable on all air rifles. There is not a pellet PISTOL made that has enough power at any distance to sting a large fur covered animal. Air rifles on the other hand are 2 to 3 times more powerful than the best air pistol. I am NOT a hunter but I like to shoot various targets (plastic toy pistol caps, necco waffers, and saltines are fun). If you want to use a pellet gun for the purpose of discouraging these coyotes I would suggest a quality airgun. You will not find these at Walmart. You need something in the 800-1200 feet per second range. This eliminates the "pump up" and Daisey single cock models. The German models are IMHO the best. I have a Beeman R-10. It is .20 cal and shoots a pellet (much safer and more accurate than BBs) at almost 900 feet per second. Hardly makes any sound either. Good luck all with the coyote problem.
 
Coyotes are varmits put the thing down next time you see it . It is a wild preditor that will kill and eat anything it can. I seriously doubt unless it is sick or hurt that it would attack even a small child. But any livestock and pet is fair game to it.

I know people grow up watching Disney and cute talking cartoon animals and think all little furry critters are sweet and lovable. But in the real world unless you want to be feeding them your pets you best deal with this.
 
WhiteSE said:
what if you go out there do wee wee and mark your own territory?? make sure you chew on a few vitamin tablets!!! :-))
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Sounds foolish, but that is what I do to protect my rabbit. Also leave a used shirt or put a used hat on a shovel handle. Animals fear humans and for good reason. We are the most ruthless creature on earth. Kill for the sake of killing, we fear anything we don't know anything about and the first thought is kill it.. I have bear, moose, deer, coyote,fox,fisher, man their fast, red tailed hawks,eagles,turkeys, partridge, you name it, and it will stay that way. Good thing they don't have guns huh? Walked out the door one morning and came face to face with a bear. He went to the edge of the woods and sat down and watched me while I watched him. I walk by deer all the time. If it was a big dog, chances are he was just checking her out. Maybe she was in heat. Look at my pictures and you will see the fox trying to figure out how to get in the cage to play!!
 
He's thinking...it's him or me. He's probably thinking it's gonna be you or your dog. If I were you I'd be thinking it's him. Anything that would view me or my family like that will feel some lead.....maybe twice. I think I'd skip the scare tactics.
 
I do not have an answer for you but the fact that you are struggling with the thought of killing another living creature says good things about a person. Whatever you're decision is, I'm sure it will be coming from the right place.
 
I've lived around them all my life. What I know for sure is that they all share common characteristics while keeping unique personalities. You can't second guess what any one of them will do. That doesn't mean they need to be killed to be dealt with (which no one is suggesting that). You have to treat them like any other wild animal. With respect. What they don't like is loud noise or movement but they'll get used to certain levels of either.

Their territory is only a couple mile range. What doesn't work about killing them is that new ones will move into the empty space. All they want is food and water. Keep pet food & water inside. Clean up fallen fruit from trees. Bungie garbage cans. Keep an air horn handy. It's about the best you can do. If there's no food or water available around your place they'll try to find it elsewhere.
 
A coyote who isn't scared of humans is a big concern. We have them in my area and they are extremely timid and I leave them alone. If I had one approaching the house, I would dispatch it without hesistating. One caution! Know your local cruelty laws, the animal rights fringe have helped escalate the penalities for killing animals beyond reason. If there is no bounty or open season, inquire about a nuisance permit. CYA!
 
JosephH said:
A coyote who isn't scared of humans is a big concern.
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YES! I'm not personally afraid of getting attacked, as we don't have any documented cases of rabid coyotes here in recent history. However, I know that coyotes (and our equally-prevalent mountain lions) will normally do anything to avoid humans. Lately, a few incidents got me thinking: In June, my mother-in-law was staying with us, and she went out front of the house, and a coyote was standing there in the bright morning sun, looked at her, and just kept standing there watching her. She shooed it away, and it just lazily strolled away. Normally they'd be gone like a rocket as soon a door from the house opens. Another one that I found interesting was up in Morro Bay, CA., where we went on a short camping trip last year. I wanted to go on the internet, as I was bored to stupors. So I took my Apple notebook with cellphone card, and took a 5-mile walk up to the top of a mountain. I was sitting on a fallen tree surfing the Net, maybe even on AK, and I looked up and here was an elderly-looking coyote just standing there. I got worried for a second that maybe I was too close to a litter of pups, or something, but I used the protocol for avoiding a dog attack (not looking in the eye, and not backing away). It stood another minute, then slowly walked away.

In both of those cases, there was certainly no threat that would have caused me to draw a weapon. But it feels safer to have one on me when in those situations. Since it's illegal in California to keep a loaded gun on your person or in a vehicle outside of private property, I didn't have one on the camping trip.

Charles
 
Paint ball gun, pellet gun, lawn darts.... Hang the shirt on the shovel, all good ideas...id put a lil lead in his rear, and he should stay away.. If that dont work, .223 is a good caliber....
 
I understand the concerns about killing something, but if it came down between the coyote, & myself, my peoperty, my loved ones, or even my pets, it'd be "Sayonara, Wile E.", especially if I had the means at my disposal to do so.
 
Just today our local newspaper had an article about a coyote that has killed a number of pets in a high dollar neighborhood. :thumbsdn:
 
These have been "an issue" in the San Gabriel Mt foothill communities for 2-3 years. I'd personally not seen a coyote locally until about a week ago, in the yard early AM: bigger than I'd expected and definitely made me look twice. (S)he took off, to both our relief, I'll wager.
 
Believe it or not, there are a few coyotes around here in the NC Foothills. You can hear them in the distance at night, driving all the dogs insane.

I saw one once in the headlights. It is a smaller variety, according to what I looked up, around 20-25 lbs. I'm sure it is a lean, mean 25 lbs. Very skittish. A lot of them meet .22 caliber bullets or buckshot each year. Seems to work out well.
 
I counted 8 separate call and responses from points along the ridge lines one night a couple weeks back; and 30 years ago there were none to speak of in WNC... They have no natural predators here, the only restrictions to their population exploding is disease, the availability of food, or man.
 
I'm a meat eater so I got over the killing thing a long time ago. Shoot the damned thing and go get a beer and put on an album on. Geeez!:pistols:
 
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