VintageVibe
Active Member
OG8, I am extremely happy with the 103r. Given the 16.5gr weight of the TP -11, it's an ideal match. It's a very honest, clean sounding and detail revealing cart. To me the secret of the 165 is it's ability to run LOMC's. When I get a chance, I'll shoot a quick listening session and post it on YT.
Here's a comment from a 103r buyer with a 165 on the Needledoctor site:
"What can I say but "wow." I do not have an audiophile vocabulary to express my thoughts about this cart. My first moving coil, so maybe I am just uninitiated. But it just rocks my Thorens TD-165. I listen to jazz and pop vocals and it blows me away. Some records sound like the band is in my living room. My amp and speakers both deliver, but this cart. just stuns me. I have not owned a high end cart. so my frame of reference is limited, but I just don't see how you improve on this. I have a nice Ray Charles Porgy and Bess box set that just kills me. It's like Ray Charles is standing with a microphone and a large box amplifier in the middle of the room."
Also forget the $379 price tag. It's $229 on ebay. I bought one from the same seller last year @ $218
Here's a comment from a 103r buyer with a 165 on the Needledoctor site:
"What can I say but "wow." I do not have an audiophile vocabulary to express my thoughts about this cart. My first moving coil, so maybe I am just uninitiated. But it just rocks my Thorens TD-165. I listen to jazz and pop vocals and it blows me away. Some records sound like the band is in my living room. My amp and speakers both deliver, but this cart. just stuns me. I have not owned a high end cart. so my frame of reference is limited, but I just don't see how you improve on this. I have a nice Ray Charles Porgy and Bess box set that just kills me. It's like Ray Charles is standing with a microphone and a large box amplifier in the middle of the room."
Also forget the $379 price tag. It's $229 on ebay. I bought one from the same seller last year @ $218