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NS-1000 sucessor

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He compared them to NS-1000M's not the larger NS-1000's or the even better NS-1000x's. I'll take any of the NS-1000's over those new Yammie speakers any day. :music:
 
He compared the treble and mids of 1000M to the Soavo, the 1000M has the same treble and mid character as the 1000x, only in bass does the 1000x hold an edge. Point being its good to see Yamaha back on track for the next coming generations by making a speaker like the Soavo. Natural accurate sound is what Yamaha is after, with the NS-1000 series they succeeded quite well, now with Soavo series they revive and pay tribute to the great NS-1000.
 
Mark B said:
He compared them to NS-1000M's not the larger NS-1000's or the even better NS-1000x's. I'll take the NS-1000x's over those new Yammie speakers any day. :music:
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They sure look nice but all the same, I'll stick with my NS-1000M's. IMHO they're pretty hard to beat overall except for say a pair of NS-2000's .

Another AKer who has both 1000's and 1000M running comments here that when you close your eyes you can't really tell the difference between the two types. As I understand it, in an acoustic suspension design it's the drivers you are designing for, not the cabinet resonance and the drivers, as is the case in a bass reflex design.

The 1000X's are speced as producing slightly more bass than the 1000's/1000M's but I've read comments on AK that say having had both 1000M's and X's, they can't hear enough difference to warrant the difference in price except when it comes to WAF (which is important enough if you'd like to have them in your livingroom). It only took 1 listening to the 1000M's for my wife to say, "OK, you can leave those right where they are :p:.":D
 
They sure don't LOOK like they're in the same league.. Not that appearance is that important, but if they really are good.. they sure don't look it. Looks like cheap HT to me.
 
Cosmos said:
They sure don't LOOK like they're in the same league.. Not that appearance is that important, but if they really are good.. they sure don't look it. Looks like cheap HT to me.
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I think they look awesome! And they probably sound awesome too.:thmbsp:
 
Thanks yamaha1, that was an enjoyable review to read. The reviewer explained his opinion in a clear, concise review. I think they are nice looking also.
 
Damn! Now I have something else to lust after. Add these to my short list. I'm in the speaker market right now and these fall right into my price range.

I'm gonna sell off everything I own, go sit on a moutain top and leave this insanity behind. may have to take an iPod though!:nutz:
 
Cosmos,

Looks can be deceptive and subject to built up perceptions, most see the NS-1000 as cheap ugly disco era left overs, specially the 1000M with its metal mesh over the drivers, to me, both my NS-1000 look like true speakers. Yamaha's latest speaker offerings, be it the low end NS-555/777 or the Soavo have way better finish than its counterparts from say B&W, Paradigm etc. So before you pre-judge them, suggest you audition them and check them out.

I am truly happy that the Soavo scored this well, last time it was the NS-8HX which got fantastic reviews but not from the English press, it was Australian and German. At least the coming generation, those who can't get a NS-1000 will still be able to savor the accurate Yamaha sound.

One point to consider is that David Price, editor of Hi Fi World as well as the reviewer for Soavo himself is a devout NS-1000 fan, he uses them as his personal speakers, so for the Soavo to impress him, it must have taken a lot.
 
Oooohh, when I first saw the $2000 price tag I thought maybe, just checked out their site and they're $1800 APIECE, I didn't catch that at first. Still interesting!.....R1
 
Yamaha1 said:
One point to consider is that David Price, editor of Hi Fi World as well as the reviewer for Soavo himself is a devout NS-1000 fan, he uses them as his personal speakers, so for the Soavo to impress him, it must have taken a lot.
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Interesting.:scratch2:
 
Vint Age,

As per your avatar pic,I see you keep your NS-1000 pretty close to the wall, contrary to the recomendations, how is the result of keeping them close to the wall by the way?

I keep mine 3ft away from walls and corners.
 
Cosmos said:
They sure don't LOOK like they're in the same league.. Not that appearance is that important, but if they really are good.. they sure don't look it. Looks like cheap HT to me.
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My thoughts entirely, speaker technology peaked in the 70's, everything since has been an attempt to retain most of the quality, but with more visual appeal.

(just my opinion) etc.
 
Skinley,

The two Yamaha devs used the NS-1000 as their benchmark and from the various test reports I read about the Soavo, they seemed to have done a mighty fine work at that, although the designers admitted that nothing will come close to the NS-1000, not possible unless you put beryllium back in equation.
 
Yamaha1 said:
Skinley,

The two Yamaha devs used the NS-1000 as their benchmark and from the various test reports I read about the Soavo, they seemed to have done a mighty fine work at that, although the designers admitted that nothing will come close to the NS-1000, not possible unless you put beryllium back in equation.
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That's what I meant, better looking and almost as good.
 
Given a choice, I'd much prefer the NS1000-, with any letter after it! They are at the TOP (after the Infinity IRS-V's, which I have no room for, anyway) of my wish-list of speakers to find and own.

Those Soavo's look too much like all the Made-in-China HT rubbish coming out these days, for my tastes. I just took some much better-looking speakers to the consignment shop to sell! Reading the review, he gives the new speakers a tiny edge in some areas, but not in most; especially near the end, you can see where they just aren't up to their vintage predecessors (but few speakers in the world are, from all accounts). Reading between the lines (and remembering that this is a magazine article, where you can bet Yamaha pays some advertising dollars) he seems to be trying to make them as attractive as he can.

That said, they do sound (from the review) like very good speakers for the price, and I wouldn't mind hearing a pair. Assuming the review is accurate, it is nice to see any manufacturer today trying to make a genuinely good-sounding speaker, instead of cranking out the almost-rubbish I see and (unfortunately) hear at the Electronics Shows these days.
 
The Soavo looks exquisite and not at all Made in China, Yamaha took great pains and made the speakers at the Piano factory in Indonesia as they did to the NS-HX and NS-200/300, too bad the only color coming is cherry and not piano black as that would have been heavenly, these speakers weigh close to NS-1000M and are well worth their price.
 
Yamaha1 said:
The Soavo looks exquisite and not at all Made in China, Yamaha took great pains and made the speakers at the Piano factory in Indonesia as they did to the NS-HX and NS-200/300, too bad the only color coming is cherry and not piano black as that would have been heavenly, these speakers weigh close to NS-1000M and are well worth their price.
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Yes the Soavo's do look exquisite but I'm thinking you just can't beat them beryllium drivers for transparency in the 1000's so I'm gonna stick with what I've got which to me is pretty darn good.:yes: :D
 
There is an excellent Yamaha dealer here in Thunder Bay, I've done lots of business with him over the years. I'm hoping that he'll get a pair of Soavo's in, I'll likely be able to home-demo a pair and compare them to my 1000M's. Here's hoping...
 
We have a Yamaha dealer here as well, problem is he wouldn't let me audition them with my MX-1000 or MX-1, he shivers when he sees me with these two beasts, wonder what he would do if someone turns up with the MX-10000 ;) , he insists on running them with the Z-9 HT amp which is not too shabby in its own right but just won't be fair to compare then. He is supposed to be getting them by July, hopefully he will change his mind by then, I am also interested in the Soavo front firing sub and how it would compare to my YST-SW800.

If you read the report thoroughly, David Price still praises his darling NS-1000 for the ultimate high end, but in overall terms, Soavo has achieved the near impossible, that is to approach a neutral transparent sound without the use of exotic material, also unlike the NS-1000, the Soavos don't need any warm up time, but the ultimate title still rests with NS-1000 as per the report.
 
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