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Onkyo A-7 Extensive Restoration

jwjarch

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Let me start by telling everyone, this will not be a multi-day or multi-week restoration. Not exactly sure how much time it will take because I will be going over every part and piece to restore this amp back to as close to or better than factory condition as possible. I don't see a ton of info on the A-7 floating around. I hope this thread comes in handy for future A-7 owners out there.

A few notes before I start in on this project. When I saw the old Onkyo's I fell in love with the silver faces with well laid out knobs and a general sense of weight to everything. I couldn't wait to dive in and find one for myself. This particular integrated came to me via Ebay, from Honolulu of all places. I don't see that this amp has ever been serviced before. Surprisingly, it is in pretty good in it's age, circa 1978-1979. There are a few small issues but nothing to stop me from hearing what it sounds like pre restoration. On the AUX and TUNER inputs there is a slight noise that comes equally through both channels. It is audible from about 6 feet from the speakers and is not affected by the volume knob. The PHONO inputs both have a significant noise in the left channel. Most likely the SA726's in the PHONO stage getting old and noisy, These will certainly get replaced. The volume knob and balance have a little scratchiness to them. Every pot and switch will receive a good DeOxit. The amp has been on and playing music for the better part of 8 hours today and warmth is barely detectable. I like that!

I'm auditioning it with a pair of Betsy driver on 18"x18" open baffles using my laptop (Microsoft Surface) and a Sabre ES9018k2m DAC. A few things for my personal notes. Hoping for some improvement in all of these areas after the restore. The sound stage is OK but not very expansive or deep. Imaging is decent, not pinpoint. Separation of instruments is OK but does muddy in complex orchestral type music. Decay of instruments is not great. I don't have that issue with these speakers and my ACA Class A amp. Overall a very neutral sounding amp though. Just enough warmth. Just enough detail. Very easy to listen too for long periods of time. I think this one is worth saving. ;)

So peering into the guts (see attached photos) this is a very well constructed amp. It's clear that Onkyo spent some coin on their development as well as their manufacturing back in the late 70's. All wires are attached with beautiful wire wrap at all of the pins. All of boards look pretty accessible so far. This will be a huge benefit, as I plan to replace all of the electrolytics throughout and will also have a good look at any signal path components, such as film caps, carbon comp resistors, and any "problem" transistors such as the infamous SA726's. The main supply caps are 25,000uF 55V Nichicon CEW. These things are huge! I'll see what tests I can preform to check their health. In general there is a lot of surface rust throughout. I plan to disassemble completely and get of rid of any traces of dirt and rust, refinishing and even re-painting as needed. I may also replace the speaker binding posts as the stock posts don't give a very positive attachment of even 14 gauge speaker wire. Most of the knobs also have issues with the clear cote over the aluminum, as you can see in the photo of the volume knob. If anyone has any suggestions to help restore these, let me know.

Should be a fun journey. Stay tuned!!!
 

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Hope it goes well, i am in the middle of an A-10, dirtiest amp i have ever seen, never got to hear it yet either!
I see the transistors inside - hard enough to locate replacements from my usual source (lists on AK)
Good luck!
 
Hi- have a look at my blog at www.quirkaudio.com I have refurbished and upgraded a number of these- there is also description of some A10 upgrades

The 25k caps can be replaced by 27k 100v units which fit in the same space. There is also a list of component changes, especially those problem transistors.

On the more recent ones, I have replaced the rectifier diodes, which was measurable beneficial. Also I have changed all the ceramics on the main amp board with either film of NG0 MLCC ceramics.

good luck with the Restoration- it is certainly worth it

Best

Peter

The 3.3uf Electrolytics I have replaced with 33uf- again with a benefit.
 
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Link does not work for me unfortunately?

I was being lazy i went and found it, nice work if you have more pictures of the A-10 would love to see them
 
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Good luck on that A-10 Paul! If I ever come across one I'll see if I can snap it up. Curious to know how they would sound vs. each other. Do you have to replace the main caps? If so, what are you planning on using?

Peter, I came across your blog some time ago and it gave me the confidence to pick one of these A-7's up. Thank you!!! You have amassed a great wealth of knowledge on restoring these great old Onkyo's. Another question for you,also. Do you have a complete service manual for the A-7? All the online copies I've seen are missing the PCB images.

I have yet to dive into this one yet. Still too many other projects on the bench. I'm sure you know what that's like. ;)
 
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Good luck on that A-10 Paul! If I ever come across one I'll see if I can snap it up. Curious to know how they would sound vs. each other. Do you have to replace the main caps? If so, what are you planning on using?

Peter, I came across your blog some time ago and it gave me the confidence to pick one of these A-7's up. Thank you!!! You have amassed a great wealth of knowledge on restoring these great old Onkyo's. Another question for you,also. Do you have a complete service manual for the A-7? All the online copies I've seen are missing the PCB images.

I have yet to dive into this one yet. Still too many other projects on the bench. I'm sure you know what that's like. ;)

I have a thread on the go, crying for help as usual - the main filters i will only replace if i can get the unit up and running - balance pot came snapped, very unusual not shipping damage it must have taken a knock at some stage.
Preamp board is recapped though, serious cleaning had to be done on it.

Waiting on a replacement balance pot - ill pop that in and see how it goes.
Will have to buy 4x 15000uf filter caps and drill chassis if i am to change those.

Ill be watching with interest, apologies for taking your thread in a different direction!
 
I will post some here- and of course let me know if I can assist

as for the power supply caps- I suggest you get the 27k 100v - Mouser part number 661-E36D101N273MDA5M- they fit exactly into the existing clamps- though you will have to file the holes in the connectors a fraction larger as the screws are a tad larger
 
Hi

a few internal photo's- I have another A7 that I will be doing shortly, so will do a better job of documenting the upgrades with photos

Peter
 

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Let me start by telling everyone, this will not be a multi-day or multi-week restoration. Not exactly sure how much time it will take because I will be going over every part and piece to restore this amp back to as close to or better than factory condition as possible. I don't see a ton of info on the A-7 floating around. I hope this thread comes in handy for future A-7 owners out there.

A few notes before I start in on this project. When I saw the old Onkyo's I fell in love with the silver faces with well laid out knobs and a general sense of weight to everything. I couldn't wait to dive in and find one for myself. This particular integrated came to me via Ebay, from Honolulu of all places. I don't see that this amp has ever been serviced before. Surprisingly, it is in pretty good in it's age, circa 1978-1979. There are a few small issues but nothing to stop me from hearing what it sounds like pre restoration. On the AUX and TUNER inputs there is a slight noise that comes equally through both channels. It is audible from about 6 feet from the speakers and is not affected by the volume knob. The PHONO inputs both have a significant noise in the left channel. Most likely the SA726's in the PHONO stage getting old and noisy, These will certainly get replaced. The volume knob and balance have a little scratchiness to them. Every pot and switch will receive a good DeOxit. The amp has been on and playing music for the better part of 8 hours today and warmth is barely detectable. I like that!

I'm auditioning it with a pair of Betsy driver on 18"x18" open baffles using my laptop (Microsoft Surface) and a Sabre ES9018k2m DAC. A few things for my personal notes. Hoping for some improvement in all of these areas after the restore. The sound stage is OK but not very expansive or deep. Imaging is decent, not pinpoint. Separation of instruments is OK but does muddy in complex orchestral type music. Decay of instruments is not great. I don't have that issue with these speakers and my ACA Class A amp. Overall a very neutral sounding amp though. Just enough warmth. Just enough detail. Very easy to listen too for long periods of time. I think this one is worth saving. ;)

So peering into the guts (see attached photos) this is a very well constructed amp. It's clear that Onkyo spent some coin on their development as well as their manufacturing back in the late 70's. All wires are attached with beautiful wire wrap at all of the pins. All of boards look pretty accessible so far. This will be a huge benefit, as I plan to replace all of the electrolytics throughout and will also have a good look at any signal path components, such as film caps, carbon comp resistors, and any "problem" transistors such as the infamous SA726's. The main supply caps are 25,000uF 55V Nichicon CEW. These things are huge! I'll see what tests I can preform to check their health. In general there is a lot of surface rust throughout. I plan to disassemble completely and get of rid of any traces of dirt and rust, refinishing and even re-painting as needed. I may also replace the speaker binding posts as the stock posts don't give a very positive attachment of even 14 gauge speaker wire. Most of the knobs also have issues with the clear cote over the aluminum, as you can see in the photo of the volume knob. If anyone has any suggestions to help restore these, let me know.

Should be a fun journey. Stay tuned!!!

I went and bought 2x 27000uf caps for the A10 - i am told they will not work because of the dual mono design. Cannot RMA them back to mouser not cost effective -where abouts are you located maybe better to send them on to you to use in your A7
 
Hello everyone, long time since this thread was updated. Just wanted to say thanks to pwauk12 and his detailed A7 restoration on that link as it helped me already before actually finding this thread.

Was just restoring an A7 I just received and I thought I could use your help. The volume pot on mine had better days and seem to be beyond repairing. The shaft came out stuck with the volume knob since the hex nut has also been damaged, and wipers inside might have been damaged too from previous owner/s :mad:. Anyone can tell me if there is a replacement potentiometer that would match this amp by the chance? Thanks in advance
 
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